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By the way, this isn't just a flashy brand. The vodka itself is excellent - it is my favorite, even without the Bitcoin connection. I have four barrels in my freezer.
Where do you live? Can you message me on how you imported it if you in the U.S.? Barrels in my freezer, I am getting goose bumps. Imported the old fashioned way... fly to Austria, come back with 8 barrels in my luggage. How it made it through security is beyond me (yes it was checked baggage, but can you imagine what the x-ray image would look like? hahahaha) Holy S**t your a mad man. Cheers, okay time to find "the way". D
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September 07, 2012, 09:22:59 PM |
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I don't like the idea of alcohol extracting BPA or other crap from the lining of the can.
BPA is in plastics, right?! Yes, in the plastic lining of most aluminum cans. It's highly soluble in alcohol. Also no, it's not just in plastics. Thermal printer paper (receipts) are usually soaked with BPA, up to 2%. Yes, it is used as a material softener if I am correct.
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September 08, 2012, 10:56:06 AM |
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Could somebody help me out here? How exactly is NEFT related to Bitcoin, other than having the sign "We support BTC economy" on their website? I didn't see Bitcoin anywhere else, neither on the cans nor is there a shop where I can order some NEFT for BTC. Are they just trying to get the Bitcoin crowd wasted?
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September 08, 2012, 01:38:43 PM |
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Could somebody help me out here? How exactly is NEFT related to Bitcoin, other than having the sign "We support BTC economy" on their website? I didn't see Bitcoin anywhere else, neither on the cans nor is there a shop where I can order some NEFT for BTC. Are they just trying to get the Bitcoin crowd wasted?
Until I see it happen, it's just another empty promise. Sorry to sound so sceptical, but my scepticism is justified after all the hype-based marketing I've seen.
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They're there, in their room. Your mining rig is on fire, yet you're very calm.
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September 08, 2012, 03:25:12 PM |
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Could somebody help me out here? How exactly is NEFT related to Bitcoin, other than having the sign "We support BTC economy" on their website? I didn't see Bitcoin anywhere else, neither on the cans nor is there a shop where I can order some NEFT for BTC. Are they just trying to get the Bitcoin crowd wasted?
Until I see it happen, it's just another empty promise. Sorry to sound so sceptical, but my scepticism is justified after all the hype-based marketing I've seen. BitInstant said that the bottles will have the bitcoin logo on them. Read the last pages. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 08, 2012, 03:34:41 PM |
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Could somebody help me out here? How exactly is NEFT related to Bitcoin, other than having the sign "We support BTC economy" on their website? I didn't see Bitcoin anywhere else, neither on the cans nor is there a shop where I can order some NEFT for BTC. Are they just trying to get the Bitcoin crowd wasted?
Until I see it happen, it's just another empty promise. Sorry to sound so sceptical, but my scepticism is justified after all the hype-based marketing I've seen. BitInstant said that the bottles will have the bitcoin logo on them. Read the last pages. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Read my post. I don't care much about who said what, I care a lot about who did what.
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They're there, in their room. Your mining rig is on fire, yet you're very calm.
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September 08, 2012, 03:35:01 PM |
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holy shit
and then...
BITCOIN WILL RULE THE WORLD!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable. Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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September 08, 2012, 03:49:12 PM |
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supporting the bitcoin economy... so where can i buy it? vodka addiced ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and from austria
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September 08, 2012, 04:48:49 PM Last edit: September 08, 2012, 08:58:21 PM by Phinnaeus Gage |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.qkme.me%2F3qtr45.jpg&t=665&c=xZ_2KFwfXbSBfA) Maybe, or maybe not, the above image is for humor purposes only. But wouldn't that be so fuckin' funny if both entities are related?
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PS: Full disclosure may be in order at this juncture.I have edited this post, for I was mistaken. The image above is ONLY for humor only. The original image was http://i.qkme.me/3qtnzz.jpg~Bruno~
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September 08, 2012, 09:00:13 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.qkme.me%2F3qtr3d.jpg&t=665&c=3IRVnodblQGRMg) Make no mistake, I am implying something here. Keyword is Mycelium. ~Bruno~
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September 08, 2012, 10:34:10 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.qkme.me%2F3qtr3d.jpg&t=665&c=3IRVnodblQGRMg) Make no mistake, I am implying something here. Keyword is Mycelium. ~Bruno~ Remind me to hire you when I need to find my long lost rich uncle. How the hell do you figure this shit out lol
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September 08, 2012, 10:41:20 PM |
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Am I right--THIS TIME (for once), Yankee?
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September 08, 2012, 10:45:53 PM |
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Am I right--THIS TIME (for once), Yankee?
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Honestly, I don't know enough to comment...so I won't because I dont want MORE rumors starting because of me.
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September 09, 2012, 12:20:45 AM |
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Am I right--THIS TIME (for once), Yankee?
~Bruno~
Honestly, I don't know enough to comment...so I won't because I dont want MORE rumors starting because of me. Here's the deal! I've found nothing nefarious about either entities, for I've no reason to dig for such, and only stumbled upon the information by happenstance, but make no mistake, both entities are connected, and am currently taken aback that said information is not disclosed. Unless I'm missing something, there should be nothing to hide, and it's not at all strange for two completely different business types to be operated by the same enterprise. So here's what I'm requesting. Will the owner(s) of BitcoinCard/NeftVolka please come forward and lay out your cards? Thank you, in advance. ~Bruno~ PS: And rumors shouldn't even be part of the equation unless, of course, I've also stumbled upon the September surprise, for it looks like that BitcoinCard(.org) looks promising. A few Bitcoiners and I are meeting the guys behing BitcoinCard in Europe at the end of the month to talk about US Distribution. Will keep you all updated!
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September 09, 2012, 12:30:11 AM |
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So here's what I'm requesting. Will the owner(s) of BitcoinCard/NeftVolka please come forward and lay out your cards?
You are overthinking it. Basically, when we were all in Vienna working on BitcoinCard we were introduced to a few people who make NEFT Vodka and they fell in love with Bitcoin. The same people working on the BitcoinCard are the ones who introduced us (I think they did some business in the past together) which gave us some credibility when pitching Bitcoin. Anyways, one of the NEFT guys and I became good friends, he was just in NYC actually, and he has a Bitcoin boner! Given my past in eCommerce and shipping logistics, I offered to help them set up distribution but they declined my help because they already have distribution in the US ready to go and I think they are just working on the importing and licenses now. Is it possible there are higher up connections? Im sure its possible, but thats higher then my paygrade lol and I dont speak Russian nor German. I'm sure there are investors in NEFT that have business interests in other things, and the chain could reach BitcoinCard. I'm not sure. Thats pretty much all I know right now, but I'm happy to relay any questions to them! -Charlie
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September 09, 2012, 01:05:02 AM |
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So here's what I'm requesting. Will the owner(s) of BitcoinCard/NeftVolka please come forward and lay out your cards?
You are overthinking it. Basically, when we were all in Vienna working on BitcoinCard we were introduced to a few people who make NEFT Vodka and they fell in love with Bitcoin. The same people working on the BitcoinCard are the ones who introduced us (I think they did some business in the past together) which gave us some credibility when pitching Bitcoin. Anyways, one of the NEFT guys and I became good friends, he was just in NYC actually, and he has a Bitcoin boner! Given my past in eCommerce and shipping logistics, I offered to help them set up distribution but they declined my help because they already have distribution in the US ready to go and I think they are just working on the importing and licenses now. Is it possible there are higher up connections? Im sure its possible, but thats higher then my paygrade lol and I dont speak Russian nor German. I'm sure there are investors in NEFT that have business interests in other things, and the chain could reach BitcoinCard. I'm not sure. Thats pretty much all I know right now, but I'm happy to relay any questions to them! -Charlie Fair enough, Charlie, and as I said, I suspect nothing nefarious. But for the record... Erik Voorhees Bitcoin Interview on Free Talk Live at Porcfest 2012Domain ID:D162408782-LROR Domain Name:BITCOINCARD.ORG Created On:31-May-2011 11:09:05 UTC Last Updated On:01-Jun-2012 01:26:20 UTC Expiration Date:31-May-2013 11:09:05 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:PSI-USA, Inc. dba Domain Robot (R68-LROR) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:ABM-11225957 Registrant Name:Thomas Holzinger Registrant Organization:Thomas Holzinger Registrant Street1:Wichtelgasse 25/7 Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Wien Registrant State/Province:AT Registrant Postal Code:1160 Registrant Country:AT Registrant Phone:+43.6505952420 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:t.holzinger@gmx.net Admin ID:ABM-11225958 Admin Name:Thomas Holzinger Admin Street1:Wichtelgasse 25/7 Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:Wien Admin State/Province:AT Admin Postal Code:1160 Admin Country:AT Admin Phone:+43.6505952420 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX: Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:t.holzinger@gmx.net Tech ID:ABM-503925 Tech Name:Gerald Gruenberger Tech Organization:World4You Internet Services GmbH Tech Street1:Hafenstrasse 47-51 Tech Street2: Tech Street3: Tech City:Linz Tech State/Province:OOE Tech Postal Code:4020 Tech Country:AT Tech Phone:+43.73293035 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX:+43.7329303510 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:techadmin@world4you.com Name Server:NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT Name Server:NS2.WORLD4YOU.AT Domain: neftvodka.com Client-IP: 68.178.211.36 Registrant: name: Thomas Holzinger organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7 postal code: 1160 city: Wien country: Austria Administrative Contact: name: Thomas Holzinger organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7 postal code: 1160 city: Wien country: Austria email: t.holzinger@gmx.atphone: +436505952420 Technical Contacts: name: Johannes Kuehrer organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH street: Hafenstrasse 47-51 postal code: 4020 city: Linz country: Austria email: domainadmin@world4you.comphone: +4373293035 fax: +437329303510 name: Gerald Gruenberger organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH street: Hafenstrasse 47-51 postal code: 4020 city: Linz country: Austria email: domainadmin@world4you.comphone: +4373293035 fax: +437329303510 Domain expires on 2013-03-30 Domain created on 2012-03-30 Domain servers in listed order: ns1.world4you.at ns2.world4you.at >>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:25:06 CET <<< NOTE: THE WHOIS DATABASE IS A CONTACT DATABASE ONLY. LACK OF A DOMAINRECORD DOES NOT SIGNIFY DOMAIN AVAILABILITY. Registrar: WORLD4YOU INTERNET SERVICES GMBH Whois Server: whois.world4you.com Creation Date: 30-MAR-2012 Updated Date: 30-MAR-2012 Expiration Date: 30-MAR-2013 Nameserver: NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT Nameserver: NS2.WORLD4YOU.AT
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September 09, 2012, 01:13:23 AM |
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So here's what I'm requesting. Will the owner(s) of BitcoinCard/NeftVolka please come forward and lay out your cards?
You are overthinking it. Basically, when we were all in Vienna working on BitcoinCard we were introduced to a few people who make NEFT Vodka and they fell in love with Bitcoin. The same people working on the BitcoinCard are the ones who introduced us (I think they did some business in the past together) which gave us some credibility when pitching Bitcoin. Anyways, one of the NEFT guys and I became good friends, he was just in NYC actually, and he has a Bitcoin boner! Given my past in eCommerce and shipping logistics, I offered to help them set up distribution but they declined my help because they already have distribution in the US ready to go and I think they are just working on the importing and licenses now. Is it possible there are higher up connections? Im sure its possible, but thats higher then my paygrade lol and I dont speak Russian nor German. I'm sure there are investors in NEFT that have business interests in other things, and the chain could reach BitcoinCard. I'm not sure. Thats pretty much all I know right now, but I'm happy to relay any questions to them! -Charlie Fair enough, Charlie, and as I said, I suspect nothing nefarious. But for the record... Erik Voorhees Bitcoin Interview on Free Talk Live at Porcfest 2012Domain ID:D162408782-LROR Domain Name:BITCOINCARD.ORG Created On:31-May-2011 11:09:05 UTC Last Updated On:01-Jun-2012 01:26:20 UTC Expiration Date:31-May-2013 11:09:05 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:PSI-USA, Inc. dba Domain Robot (R68-LROR) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:ABM-11225957 Registrant Name:Thomas Holzinger Registrant Organization:Thomas Holzinger Registrant Street1:Wichtelgasse 25/7 Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Wien Registrant State/Province:AT Registrant Postal Code:1160 Registrant Country:AT Registrant Phone:+43.6505952420 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:t.holzinger@gmx.net Admin ID:ABM-11225958 Admin Name:Thomas Holzinger Admin Street1:Wichtelgasse 25/7 Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:Wien Admin State/Province:AT Admin Postal Code:1160 Admin Country:AT Admin Phone:+43.6505952420 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX: Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:t.holzinger@gmx.net Tech ID:ABM-503925 Tech Name:Gerald Gruenberger Tech Organization:World4You Internet Services GmbH Tech Street1:Hafenstrasse 47-51 Tech Street2: Tech Street3: Tech City:Linz Tech State/Province:OOE Tech Postal Code:4020 Tech Country:AT Tech Phone:+43.73293035 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX:+43.7329303510 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:techadmin@world4you.com Name Server:NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT Name Server:NS2.WORLD4YOU.AT Domain: neftvodka.com Client-IP: 68.178.211.36 Registrant: name: Thomas Holzinger organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7 postal code: 1160 city: Wien country: Austria Administrative Contact: name: Thomas Holzinger organization: Gallinaz Business Management Consulting GmbH street: Wichtelgasse 25/Top 7 postal code: 1160 city: Wien country: Austria email: t.holzinger@gmx.atphone: +436505952420 Technical Contacts: name: Johannes Kuehrer organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH street: Hafenstrasse 47-51 postal code: 4020 city: Linz country: Austria email: domainadmin@world4you.comphone: +4373293035 fax: +437329303510 name: Gerald Gruenberger organization: World4You Internet Services GmbH street: Hafenstrasse 47-51 postal code: 4020 city: Linz country: Austria email: domainadmin@world4you.comphone: +4373293035 fax: +437329303510 Domain expires on 2013-03-30 Domain created on 2012-03-30 Domain servers in listed order: ns1.world4you.at ns2.world4you.at >>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:25:06 CET <<< NOTE: THE WHOIS DATABASE IS A CONTACT DATABASE ONLY. LACK OF A DOMAINRECORD DOES NOT SIGNIFY DOMAIN AVAILABILITY. Registrar: WORLD4YOU INTERNET SERVICES GMBH Whois Server: whois.world4you.com Creation Date: 30-MAR-2012 Updated Date: 30-MAR-2012 Expiration Date: 30-MAR-2013 Nameserver: NS1.WORLD4YOU.AT Nameserver: NS2.WORLD4YOU.AT Looks like some disclosure is in order to me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Again, nothing nefarious, but a fuller understanding of who's behind Neft Vodka, and now BitcoinCard, is warranted. http://www.amazon.de/Die-Online-Redaktion-Praxisbuch-Internetjournalismus-X-media-press/dp/3642007198The online editorial team: Practice Book for Internet journalism (X.media.press) [Hardcover] Thomas Holzinger (Author) , Martin Sturmer (Author) The content development of the Internet, keep up with the technological possibilities with hardly. That online editorial frequently be betrachet as "penal colony" for unpleasant people and the technophile self-realization of some staff are just two of the reasons why. Devote in this manual for multimedia media creation exceed the authors the boundaries of traditional media genres and irreverently freshness of professionalization of Internet editorial. http://www.amazon.de/Im-Netz-Nachricht-Newsroom-Strategie-PR-Roman/dp/3642224881/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324293507&sr=8-1In the network news: the newsroom as a PR strategy novel [Hardcover] Thomas Holzinger (Author) , Martin Sturmer (Author) The two communications professionals draw on their novel is a genre picture of the current media landscape and also provide an example of how the "Newsroom" strategy in the corporate communications can be implemented. The focus is on the news stands as the oldest and most difficult part of the human mass communication: short, fast and significant. Modern communications department to the newsroom, the acts and unlimited multimedia and serves all audiences on all platforms - from the local newspaper to Twitter. http://www.mediaclub.at/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaclub.at%2Fassets%2FUploads%2F_resampled%2FSetWidth220-sturmerholzingercbarbarahohenwallnerklein.jpg&t=665&c=TgwDhdKstQG8lw) Martin Sturmer Thomas Holzinger Tel: +43 662 450627 E-mail: willkommen@mediaclub.athttp://www.pr-agentur-blog.de/rezension-im-netz-der-nachricht-4341.htmlEducate Entertaining - "The power of the message" is a refreshing work for those who are tired of having to acquire expertise from counselors and guides, represents the exciting PR novel aimed at social media newbies and those who place themselves like to deal with the matter Web 2.0. Holzinger and Sturmer skillfully manage the example of Shit Storms to illustrate the opportunities and risks posed by the communication in Web 2.0 with it. Still looking for last minute Christmas gift for a PRler or communications professionals, you should consider. The book is for EUR 29.95 Free Shipping at www.amazon.de available in stationary or bookstore. "The power of the message," is published by Springer Verlag. There you have it! A couple of good-ole-PR-boys who, at least one of them, is behind NeftVodka and BitcoinCard. For the life of me, I don't understand why both business concerns needed to be presented to this community in the matter in which they were presented. Look what I found! Yea, that's me or I'm behind that or there's more info coming. Or the way this thread was started, with all due respect to evoorhees--seriously. Until I have reason to believe otherwise, Charlie, Erik, Roger, et al., are great bitcoiners, but come on guys, let's be a little more up front. With the exception of the real trolls, we're all on the same team, albeit I'm in an orange uniform, but regardless, let's play ball. Peace! ~Bruno~
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September 09, 2012, 06:12:14 AM |
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Are you sure that Thomas Holzinger is really behind both businesses, and not just an owner/worker in a PR firm that both businesses hired? For instance maybe part of the services they offer is registering domains and hosting websites? Just wondering out loud...
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September 09, 2012, 06:29:10 AM |
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Are you sure that Thomas Holzinger is really behind both businesses, and not just an owner/worker in a PR firm that both businesses hired? For instance maybe part of the services they offer is registering domains and hosting websites? Just wondering out loud...
Thomas Holzinger is the general manager of NEFT for Europe and a good friend of mine...he has nothing to do with the BitcoinCard as my understanding. It's possible he has registered domain names, but it probably means he works with the same people, like I said similar business interests. Sorry Bruno, everything I told you is transparent and truthful. Oh, neither of those guys in the picture is Thomas, I've never seen those guys before.
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