[June 10th, 2015] Ponzis Explained w/ Analysis & Ratings

[Gantz]

Added Ratings:



btc-goldmine.com

https://i.imgur.com/3tsQ6ku.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 2/10

 Considerations:
 Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.



multiply-bitcoins.eu

https://i.imgur.com/vKeHk2i.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 200% in 1, 2 or 3 Days Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Probaly an attempt of Collect & Run Away, full of fake transactions. Stay away.



StableBit.biz

https://i.imgur.com/baTz4Ag.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: MEDIUM - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 5/10

 Considerations:
 Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.



Hourly-coin.com

https://i.imgur.com/nOOy6sa.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: 0 /10 Plan: 101% in 1 Hour Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Poor concept and, in my opinion, risk my btc for 1% it's not safe.



Updates:

EdgeCoin.com

21/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to VERY HIGH
21/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
Reason It seems slowly dying, insufficient communication from owner, possible missing payouts.


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Complete List: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.msg11408481#msg11408481

What do you think?

It would be nice to talk about it.

P.S. QUESTION: What do you think if I add "Status" item in my ratings? Status can be EARLY, MID or LATE, this should
represent which moment we are in the life of the system.

Do you like it?

[XCryptos]

Hello,
Have you checked out XCryptos.com?
Our BitcoinTalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1067436.0
We offer sustainable rates, and a one of a kind script including search, and sortable tables. As well as this, our affiliate pays 5% and offer extremely fast support via the BitcoinTalk thread.
Also another highlight is extremely secure accounts. We are the first investment firm like this to enable 2 factor authentication as well as various plans to choose from.
If you need any more info from us, feel free to shoot us a PM or email!

- XCryptos Management

[Xialla]

Hello,
Have you checked out XCryptos.com?
Our BitcoinTalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1067436.0
We offer sustainable rates, and a one of a kind script including search, and sortable tables. As well as this, our affiliate pays 5% and offer extremely fast support via the BitcoinTalk thread.
Also another highlight is extremely secure accounts. We are the first investment firm like this to enable 2 factor authentication as well as various plans to choose from.
If you need any more info from us, feel free to shoot us a PM or email!

- XCryptos Management

ohh but this thread is about ponzi and you are serious investing firm, so nothing for you:(

[Gantz]

Do not see any change in your rating so far. I wonder how come scams like Bit-Protect.com, Dr-Bitcoin.com, PerfectProfit.biz, StableBit.biz get similar or higher Gantz rating than CrazyPonzi.com or Nine9.ninja !!!

Hi, I think there is a bit of misunderstanding. This thread was born to exploit ponzis, understanding them and get a benefit. We know that they run away in the end 99% of the time.

And personally, it's not different to put any sum of btc on roulette, for example. You can lose but you know what are you doing.

There isn't a rule about gambling > ponzi/hyip in terms of profit.

Back to CrazyPonzi, actually, I don't think that is more profitable now than ponzis that you said, by the way:

"Gantz Rating is changeable and is included my wish to join the system, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.".

For example when CrazyPonzi queue will be more short or empty my ratings will change for sure.

About CrazyPonzi "trasparency" yes, this can change now (I will do later) but not too much, in fact this system can be manipulated easy by changing DB records. For example how I know that that bet is real (paid in BTC)? What I saw are just records.

I hope the situation is more clear.

[supermoney]

The problem is not CrazyPonzi but the concept of a Ponzi game that isn't profitable enough and no more attractive, as I said this trend is out of date right now.
Admins have no chance to make one running for long time in this period in fact I would reccomend you all to stop wasting your time trying to do so.
Actually this is the best period to run a good HYIP or invest your funds in a HYIP, but keep in mind the golden period is gonna end on "Black December"  
So, best time to run an UNIQUE Ponzi game is only in certain periods  

[andolini82]

The problem is not CrazyPonzi but the concept of a Ponzi game that isn't profitable enough and no more attractive, as I said this trend is out of date right now.
Admins have no chance to make one running for long time in this period in fact I would reccomend you all to stop wasting your time trying to do so.
Actually this is the best period to run a good HYIP or invest your funds in a HYIP, but keep in mind the golden period is gonna end on "Black December"  
So, best time to run an UNIQUE Ponzi game is only in certain periods  

So do you have any sugestion to invest on which hyip or ponzi site today?

[supermoney]

The problem is not CrazyPonzi but the concept of a Ponzi game that isn't profitable enough and no more attractive, as I said this trend is out of date right now.
Admins have no chance to make one running for long time in this period in fact I would reccomend you all to stop wasting your time trying to do so.
Actually this is the best period to run a good HYIP or invest your funds in a HYIP, but keep in mind the golden period is gonna end on "Black December"  
So, best time to run an UNIQUE Ponzi game is only in certain periods  

So do you have any sugestion to invest on which hyip or ponzi site today?

Some days ago I deposited 0.1 BTC on 5starBTC and received back 0.12 BTC in a couple of hours (120% profit) but then I left because I knew it was going to collapse again but this time faster than last time. Now just go and check their transactions list  
I would only invest in new HYIPs with great investment from admin, stable incomes and possibly with real revenue behind. Or just stick to classic big HYIPs like cryptoconomist.biz  
But please keep in mind: Ponzi scheme, forex and stocks investments or shit like that... They can all scam or collapse  

[cjrosero]

We should have a thread named "Scam" all ponzi and HIYP will be there. ahaha

[dannyprats]

Bit-protect.com is dead

[Gantz]

Bit-protect.com is dead

Thanks, I have updated first post.

Bit-Protect.com

https://i.imgur.com/gEN1hlG.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: Multiplan Risk: SYSTEM IS DEAD - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                  Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Hybrid real money/crypto HYIP, investement plans not totally clear, try them on calculator, actually in early game.

 Updates:
 26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 0
 Reason: System is early dead. Greedy owner.

Btw just saw that bitcointalk is back online, tomorrow I will update all ratings + more new.

[lolfreak87]

StableBit.biz pending = dead

[Xialla]

whoaa you are still continue with this thread? good job, even it is endles..

[Gantz]

StableBit.biz pending = dead

Thanks!


Update Ratings:

btc-goldmine.com

https://i.imgur.com/3tsQ6ku.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: SYSTEM IS DEAD - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.

 Updates:
 26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 2 to 0
 Reason: Game Over as predicted.



StableBit.biz

https://i.imgur.com/baTz4Ag.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.
 
 Updates:
 26/5/15 Risk from HIGH to EXTREMELY RISK
 26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 0
 Reason: Payments stopped.



 EdgeCoin.com

https://i.imgur.com/ALBO024.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 5% Daily Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 No trasparency, payments are made manually and users claim already delays, not a good start.

 Updates:
 26/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to EXTREMELY HIGH
 26/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 1 to 0
 Reason Payments stopped.



New Ratings later.

EDIT: If you have any suggestion, tell me here please.

[Gantz]

Hey guys!


New Ratings:



cherryRace.com

https://i.imgur.com/fjlBJNc.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 4% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 1/10

 Considerations:
 There is no trasparency at all. Design and concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP, remember this. 25 Days to get back just your deposit seems a bit much, and if we thinks how many days these HYIPs runs seems a bit to risky.



HkbIncome.com

https://i.imgur.com/inRLHQk.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: 0 /10[/size] Plan: 25-50% Daily Risk: VERY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Very short HYIP, that because their plans are offering very high returns, be careful.

[josephno1]

What determines risk since it seems that so far there are only two risks, High and extremely high

[Gantz]

What determines risk since it seems that so far there are only two risks, High and extremely high

Many factors, Risk can be: EXTREMELY LOW - VERY LOW - LOW / MEDIUM / HIGH - VERY HIGH - EXTREMELY HIGH

It's not my fault if 95% of these HYIPs are just trash or owers are too greedy. It's not easy to find a good HYIP with low risk here...Owners seems a bit new/noob to HYIP concept in general.


Btw new weekly insights!


NEW WEEKLY TOPIC

#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:

- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?


NEW WEEKLY TIP

#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.


Original post updated with all: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064400.0

[mib]

LOL bro you don't understand how cherry works,
you will get the amount after 50days
not 200% in 2, 3, 9 and 14 Days like you say 
and every day you will get so about the 4%

[Gantz]

LOL bro you don't understand how cherry works,
you will get the amount after 50days
not 200% in 2, 3, 9 and 14 Days like you say  
and every day you will get so about the 4%

Oh thanks, fixed:

cherryRace.com

https://i.imgur.com/fjlBJNc.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 4% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 1/10

 Considerations:
 There is no trasparency at all. Design and concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP, remember this. 25 Days to get back just your deposit seems a bit much, and if we thinks how many days these HYIPs runs seems a bit to risky.

If you're looking for a better formatted or complete version with better ratings (so that the list is actually helpful), take a look over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1075518.0

Man...your thread it's just a list with ref links, what we are doing here is totally different...don't spam your thing here, thanks.

[dannyprats]

any update? --

[btcs1000]

nice thread, thank you