spec thread on how to do the ckpool-solo club

[aurel57]

I see we are rolling again

we are overpaying a tiny bit.  0.0100 was the max goal

but with 2 blocks hit it is a little easier to do.  and we were paying 0.0102 when we hit the blocks.

price drift up may always be a problem.  small problem as it costs time but not coin.  (so far)

I am ok with the slight over paying. We were lucky yesterday to hit those two blocks so close to each other. My feeling is once that happened we may have been better off raising the rate right away to keep those miners we had as now we most likely have different miners who knows where they are located. It may not mean anything but if it's working keep it. Also Phil I am going to send you a PM.

[page14]

By the way Philip, how do you see our groups rotate?

Also, i thought maybe we should try to work as a team?
as for now, our groups are completely two separated groups, am i right?

What if, we try to help each other a bit, heres an example of what we can do:

For instance our group found 2-3-10 blocks...
And your group wasnt able to find anything.
or the othe way around.

So what our group does, is cover your losses... and give those 0.5 bitcoins to your group for the next run.

This happens everytime a group founds a block, and help the other group for only one run, until someone founds a block again.

Way to complicated

Well, its for the group mates to decide...
For me it doesnt look that complicated at all.

This way, even if one of the days were out of luck, the other group will help you, try your luck ones more.

[philipma1957]

By the way Philip, how do you see our groups rotate?

Also, i thought maybe we should try to work as a team?
as for now, our groups are completely two separated groups, am i right?

What if, we try to help each other a bit, heres an example of what we can do:

For instance our group found 2-3-10 blocks...
And your group wasnt able to find anything.
or the other way around.

So what our group does, is cover your losses... and give those 0.5 bitcoins to your group for the next run.

This happens everytime a group founds a block, and help the other group for only one run, until someone founds a block again.

Nice idea a hedge fund between each set. May be too complex to get everyone to agree to it.  also a bit more work for me to keep track of.



each round I ask for a top list volunteer to sit out.

So Next round I am sitting out and mavericklm is sitting out.
this allows 2 from the bottom list to get in.

goal is 2 -4 volunteers for next round.

 I know I could just force 10 in 10 out don't want to.  Don't want to have to go beyond simple volunteer system of 2-4 sitting out .

Also  if you want sit out 2 or 3 or 4 rounds in a row that is cool.


Do not want to start next round till we payoff here.
So far it has been hard to rent hash at an okay price.

0.0103  for 1th  is the norm price for out current diff.

west-nice charges   3%
 I plan to tip ck .5% for blocks
transfer fees etc.  all gets just under 3.75%

so 0.0103 x  .9625 = 0.0099 per 1th  .

So for this diff if we are paying under 0.0099 we are getting a bargain.
Some of the rental price was at 0.0098  and some as high as 0.0106  

issues
1) the max rental price
2) rotation plan
3) how much to rent
4) it is work  I don't mind doing it maybe for the summer.
5) having enough players
6) max of 20 with 10 playing

[page14]

Ill be out for a while.
Im ready to go to group 1 if needed.

[thedreamer]

Let's keep it simple and not over complicate this shall we?
I'm in for the next group, but after that I'll  rotate out.

[philipma1957]

Okay paid out 2.5 btc to all ten of us.

we have 24.922xxxx in the next block

I am giving ck  .250   which is a match of his fee   

so 24.922 - .250 =  24.672 each.     

  I know 2 people said they would tip me 0.09 each

 I will look back to  figure out who the were.



1)jonnybravo0311------------ 1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre      ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre

_______________________________________________________________________________ __________

2)Kexkey---------------------- 1Niuc2ChdBfSHxZy9bcQGmwNL3sYrSQeT      ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1Niuc2ChdBfSHxZy9bcQGmwNL3sYrSQeT
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________
3)BitcoinPappi---------------- 1Br7jw6oyvMviR4wh9GdeBB6xDmufqSVPo    ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1Br7jw6oyvMviR4wh9GdeBB6xDmufqSVPo
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________
4)thedreamer ----------------  1ANkrJri2sKVEyY7q4wjSPtWcrtMF3mqk7      ---- I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1ANkrJri2sKVEyY7q4wjSPtWcrtMF3mqk7
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

5)ezeminer -------------------   1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9c    ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9c
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

6)mavericklm ----------------   1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796  ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

7)aurel57 --------------------- 128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ   ----- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______

8)TheAnalogKid--------------  13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiT       ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiT

9)philipma1957-------------- 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje        ---- Yeah this is me

Pd 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

10)pepto ---------------------- 1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWB -----  

pd 2.5 btc

 https://blockchain.info/address/1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWB

[aurel57]

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

7)aurel57 --------------------- 128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ   ----- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______





 

Confirmed the payment hit my wallet. Thanks Phil

[thedreamer]

Got it thank you. Can't wait for the next payment. 


and the next... and the next..

[philipma1957]

Okay paid out 2.5 btc to all ten of us.

we have 24.922xxxx in the next block

I am giving ck  .250   which is a match of his fee  

so 24.922 - .250 =  2.4672 each.    

  I know 2 people said they would tip me 0.09 each

 I will look back to  figure out who the were.

TheAnalogKid
mavericklm

each offered a 0.09 tip

as it stands   we all would get 2.467 after I tip ck   0.25 btc



So if anyone wants  2.4 and give me 0.067 as a  tip  let me know.

@ TheAnalogKid and mavericklm  

I will send each of you 2.4




All 10 have the first block paid out.

1)jonnybravo0311------------ 1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre      ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre

payment confirmed by jonnybravo0311

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11419760#msg11419760
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________

2)Kexkey---------------------- 1Niuc2ChdBfSHxZy9bcQGmwNL3sYrSQeT      ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1Niuc2ChdBfSHxZy9bcQGmwNL3sYrSQeT
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________
3)BitcoinPappi---------------- 1Br7jw6oyvMviR4wh9GdeBB6xDmufqSVPo    ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1Br7jw6oyvMviR4wh9GdeBB6xDmufqSVPo
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________
4)thedreamer ----------------  1ANkrJri2sKVEyY7q4wjSPtWcrtMF3mqk7      ---- I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1ANkrJri2sKVEyY7q4wjSPtWcrtMF3mqk7

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11419378#msg11419378
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

5)ezeminer -------------------   1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9c    ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9c
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

6)mavericklm ----------------   1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796  ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

7)aurel57 --------------------- 128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ   ----- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ

payment confirmed by aurel57
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11419364#msg11419364
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______

8)TheAnalogKid--------------  13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiT       ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiT

re confirmed here by TheAnalogKid

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11420694#msg11420694
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______

9)philipma1957-------------- 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje        ---- Yeah this is me

Pd 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje  I paid myself
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____
10)pepto ---------------------- 1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWB -----  

pd 2.5 btc

 https://blockchain.info/address/1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWB

[aurel57]

Okay paid out 2.5 btc to all ten of us.

we have 24.922xxxx in the next block

I am giving ck  .250   which is a match of his fee  

so 24.922 - .250 =  2.4672 each.    

  I know 2 people said they would tip me 0.09 each

 I will look back to  figure out who the were.

TheAnalogKid
mavericklm

each offered a 0.09 tip

as it stands   we all would get 2.467 after I tip ck   0.25 btc



So if anyone wants  2.4 and give me 0.067 as a  tip  let me know.

@ TheAnalogKid and mavericklm  

I will send each of you 2.4

Phil I am fine with the 2.4 payment as well

[jonnybravo0311]

Okay paid out 2.5 btc to all ten of us.

we have 24.922xxxx in the next block

I am giving ck  .250   which is a match of his fee  

so 24.922 - .250 =  24.672 each.    

  I know 2 people said they would tip me 0.09 each

 I will look back to  figure out who the were.



1)jonnybravo0311------------ 1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre      ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre

Received 2.5BTC payment for block number 1.  Thanks, Phil!

Phil, for block number two, please only send me a payment of 2.3BTC and keep the .1672BTC as a tip for yourself for running this group, keeping track of the orders, organizing everything, etc.  Without your efforts at ensuring orders were maintained, switched, changed as needed we wouldn't be having this discussion about how to manage the rewards for the two found blocks .

EDIT: and by the way, I'm certainly willing to sit out any round.  In fact, I know for a fact that I'll be out of any rounds we do the first week of June (starting May, 31) because I'll be on vacation with virtually zero access to anything online...

[philipma1957]

https://www.westhash.com/?p=allorders


#397245   Standard   Alive   0.0106   0.59512375   13.54   100.00   113   99.5339


https://www.nicehash.com/?p=allorders

#397251   Standard   Alive   0.0105   0.65187514   ∞   100.00   0   0.0000
#397254   Standard   Alive   0.0105   0.64161088   ∞   100.00   0   0.0000
#397263   Standard   Alive   0.0105   0.64806405   ∞   100.00   0   0.0000
#397266   Standard   Alive   0.0105   0.63632855   ∞   100.00   0   0.0000


nicehash is getting pretty pricey  close to 0.0110  or 0.0109

I can see a few issues running this.  One is delays due to price raise.  I do think the 2 block hit got more players interested. 

Second is security of the coins.  50 coins in the wallet while exciting  is 12,000usd.

 I sent a pm to ck  to possibly have him handle payouts in the future.   a direct fee vs a tip. It is most likely worth it in the long run.

I do not want to be saying I got hacked sorry  and since I know at least 2 or 3 people in the club know my name and address.  Not paying the lost block would not happen. Thus meaning a very annoyed wife.

I realized 2 block hits are not common with a 5 coin play  about 25 to 1.    but  I have to consider the groups safety. As well as my risk.

[RoadStress]

my 2cents: let's take a brake and regroup

looking at the address i see 20btc extra, so lets say 20btc brought 50btc! that is some luck!!!
and what comes after luck? ....

thinking of taking a break myself and willing to give up my place for RoadStress if he will give me back the place in the future!

Thanks and of course I will give it back

philipma1957 I know that you have a lot on your head, but just let me know when and where to pay my share of 0.5 btc (if I got this right). Also thanks for organizing this.

[philipma1957]

ck ---------------0.250 tip

TheAnalogKid --------  2.400 due
mavericklm  --------    2.400 due
aurel57          ------     2.400 due
jonnybravo0311 ----    2.300 due
BitcoinPappi ---------    2.417 due



Kexkey -----------------  2.467 due
thedreamer ------------  2.467 due
ezeminer ---------------- 2.467 due
pepto -------------------- 2.467 due.

philipma1957
at blocks maturity  


So in an hour or so I will pay out the above.

to those that do not understand price difference it is due to tipping.

once I pay all out  about the account will be at 2.7 or so which is my share plus tips

everyone will get to see the exact amount of tips I collected.

I will then zero out the club btc.

DON"T SEND ME BTC

 Still waiting for the last rental to clear.

[thedreamer]

Thanks Phil. I knew you were a stand up guy the first time I spoke and dealt with you.

Bro hug!

Lol

[pepto]

ck ---------------0.250 tip

TheAnalogKid --------  2.400 due
mavericklm  --------    2.400 due
aurel57          ------     2.400 due
jonnybravo0311 ----    2.300 due
BitcoinPappi ---------    2.417 due



Kexkey -----------------  2.467 due
thedreamer ------------  2.467 due
ezeminer ---------------- 2.467 due
pepto -------------------- 2.467 due.

philipma1957
at blocks maturity  


So in an hour or so I will pay out the above.

to those that do not understand price difference it is due to tipping.

once I pay all out  about the account will be at 2.7 or so which is my share plus tips

everyone will get to see the exact amount of tips I collected.

I will then zero out the club btc.

DON"T SEND ME BTC

 Still waiting for the last rental to clear.

Mining makes cents sense again.

[TheAnalogKid]

First payment confirmed, thanks!

And yes, Phil, whenever I'm in any of these rounds and we hit, keep the tip amount for yourself on top of what you give to CK.  Just saying it here so I don't have to re-post it later.

[philipma1957]

Thread is getting too long.
The  first block is fully paid.


1)jonnybravo0311----------posted first payment done

 2) Kexkey--------- please confirm first payment
 3) BitcoinPappi--- please confirm first payment

4) the dreamer--- posted first payment done

 5) ezeminer ------ please confirm first payment
 6)mavericklm-----please confirm first  payment

7)aurel57-----------------------posted  first payment done
8)The AnalogKid-------------------posted  first payment done
9) philipma1957-------------I  will pay myself last

10) pepto ---------please confirm first payment

Okay paid out 2.5 btc to all ten of us.

we have 24.922xxxx in the next block

I am giving ck  .250   which is a match of his fee  

so 24.922 - .250 =  2.4672 each.    

  
 







All 10 have the first block paid out.

1)jonnybravo0311------------ 1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre      ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre

payment confirmed by jonnybravo0311

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11419760#msg11419760
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________

2)Kexkey---------------------- 1Niuc2ChdBfSHxZy9bcQGmwNL3sYrSQeT      ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1Niuc2ChdBfSHxZy9bcQGmwNL3sYrSQeT
_______________________________________________________________________________ __________
3)BitcoinPappi---------------- 1Br7jw6oyvMviR4wh9GdeBB6xDmufqSVPo    ---  I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc

https://blockchain.info/address/1Br7jw6oyvMviR4wh9GdeBB6xDmufqSVPo
_______________________________________________________________________________ _________
4)thedreamer ----------------  1ANkrJri2sKVEyY7q4wjSPtWcrtMF3mqk7      ---- I confirmed this addy

paid 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1ANkrJri2sKVEyY7q4wjSPtWcrtMF3mqk7

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11419378#msg11419378


_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

5)ezeminer -------------------   1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9c    ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9c
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

6)mavericklm ----------------   1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796  ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796
_______________________________________________________________________________ _______

7)aurel57 --------------------- 128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ   ----- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ

payment confirmed by aurel57
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11419364#msg11419364
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______

8)TheAnalogKid--------------  13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiT       ---- I confirmed this addy

pd 2.5btc
https://blockchain.info/address/13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiT

re confirmed here by TheAnalogKid

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064802.msg11420694#msg11420694
_______________________________________________________________________________ ______

9)philipma1957-------------- 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje        ---- Yeah this is me

Pd 2.5 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje  I paid myself
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____
10)pepto ---------------------- 1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWB -----  

pd 2.5 btc

 https://blockchain.info/address/1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWB

[philipma1957]

 okay confirms in sent .25 btc to ck

https://blockchain.info/address/148KkS2vgVi4VzUi4JcKzM2PMaMVPi3nnq


1)jonnybravo0311 sent 2.3 he got 4.8 all told thank you for tip https://blockchain.info/address/1DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVre

2) Kexkey--------- second payment of  2.3  set all told 4.8 sent thanks for tip

https://blockchain.info/address/1Niuc2ChdBfSHxZy9bcQGmwNL3sYrSQeT

3) BitcoinPappi--- please confirm first payment -- so I can send second payment of 2.4



4) thedreamer sent 2.467 he got 4.967   all told
https://blockchain.info/address/1ANkrJri2sKVEyY7q4wjSPtWcrtMF3mqk7



5) ezeminer ------ please confirm first payment-- so I can send second payment  of 2.467


6)mavericklm------ sent 2.4 he got 4.9 all told thank your for tip  https://blockchain.info/address/1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796
7)aurel57 sent 2.4 he got 4.9 all told thank you for tip
 https://blockchain.info/address/128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJ
8.)TheAnalogKid sent 2.4 he got 4.9 all told thank you for tip
https://blockchain.info/address/13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiT

9) me



10)pepto ------please confirm first payment --so I can send second payment of 2.467


need four post backs to pay this out fully.  thank you for confirming mavericklm


@ missing four don't worry  second set of coins are still   in ckpool-solo-club.

the   thread is long so I may have missed that you said you received  first set.
1st payment of coins

[jonnybravo0311]

2.3BTC payment has been received and confirmed.  Thanks, Phil!