delete Investor-based games section

[doves]

if Investor-based games section removed then they will start posting thread about their ponzi site everywhere in forum
its better to keep all the ponzi in one section the all over the forum

Just how helpless are we? I don't see drugs or CP being sold on this forum, why is that?
Going by your logic, we should create "CP" & "Drugs & Guns" sections, to keep the forum from being overrun.

[Keyser Soze]

Just how helpless are we? I don't see drugs or CP being sold on this forum, why is that?

I'd assume theymos wouldn't want the site shut down and/or face other legal issues.

Going by your logic, we should create "CP" & "Drugs & Guns" sections, to keep the forum from being overrun.

The gambling section was being overrun with ponzi-style games, there was a need to have them separated from more traditional gambling. Please point out where the forum is being overrun with CP, drugs and guns.

[doves]

>I'd assume theymos wouldn't want the site shut down and/or face other legal issues.
Perhaps, but AFAIK promoting unregistered securities & unlicensed online gambling is not strictly legal in US either, is it?

>Please point out where the forum is being overrun with CP, drugs and guns.
My point precisely. The forum is not being overrun by CP, drug & gun sales, without subforums being created for any of that. Because against forum policy.

Bitcointalk is not about providing a platform for degenerate gamblers, it's about discussion and promotion of Bitcoin. Having Bitcoin associated with ponzis is bad for Bitcoin. Promoting ponzis on Bitcointalk is bad for Bitcoin. This is prima facie shit, the fact that I need to explain this is, frankly, worrying.

This forum is not powerless at policing its policies. Millions of dollars were donated to Bitcointalk (not millions at the time of donation, but thanks to BTC price increase). If you feel that's not enough to pay for forum moderation, I guess I got nothing.

[erikalui]

>I'd assume theymos wouldn't want the site shut down and/or face other legal issues.
Perhaps, but AFAIK promoting unregistered securities & unlicensed online gambling is not strictly legal in US either, is it?

>Please point out where the forum is being overrun with CP, drugs and guns.
My point precisely. The forum is not being overrun by CP, drug & gun sales, without subforums being created for any of that. Because against forum policy.

Bitcointalk is not about providing a platform for degenerate gamblers, it's about discussion and promotion of Bitcoin. Having Bitcoin associated with ponzis is bad for Bitcoin. Promoting ponzis on Bitcointalk is bad for Bitcoin. This is prima facie shit, the fact that I need to explain this is, frankly, worrying.

This forum is not powerless at policing its policies. Millions of dollars were donated to Bitcointalk (not millions at the time of donation, but thanks to BTC price increase). If you feel that's not enough to pay for forum moderation, I guess I got nothing.

I agree with you. Bitcoin being associated with Gambling and Ponzis is bad for bitcoin as well as bitcoiners. I thought of suggesting these sections to be shut down but I knew that nobody would support me. Their reasons would be, people are sensible enough to know what is a ponzi or casino, the members would advertise through other means on the forum, they would message members to invest in ponzis, the forum doesn't take responsibility of any scams and so on. The discussion again comes to square one and for me since BCT is so far the most popular bitcoin forums, it's sad that it supports these sections which is simply for money laundering. Bitcoins being anonymous makes it a victim to these ponzi websites and casinos.

[Keyser Soze]

>I'd assume theymos wouldn't want the site shut down and/or face other legal issues.
Perhaps, but AFAIK promoting unregistered securities & unlicensed online gambling is not strictly legal in US either, is it?

>Please point out where the forum is being overrun with CP, drugs and guns.
My point precisely. The forum is not being overrun by CP, drug & gun sales, without subforums being created for any of that. Because against forum policy.

Bitcointalk is not about providing a platform for degenerate gamblers, it's about discussion and promotion of Bitcoin. Having Bitcoin associated with ponzis is bad for Bitcoin. Promoting ponzis on Bitcointalk is bad for Bitcoin. This is prima facie shit, the fact that I need to explain this is, frankly, worrying.

This forum is not powerless at policing its policies. Millions of dollars were donated to Bitcointalk (not millions at the time of donation, but thanks to BTC price increase). If you feel that's not enough to pay for forum moderation, I guess I got nothing.

Historically the site has taken the stance of moderating content as little as possible and really I do not see that changing. Obviously, they cannot allow some topics (such as CP) for legal reasons. Could the gambling and securities sections be a legal risk for the forum/theymos? Perhaps, but (given those sections existence) it is obviously something that is currently deemed acceptable.

As a side note, you can actually sell guns on this forum as long as you are doing it in a legal manner. For example, if you were in the US, you have to post that it is a FFL to FFL US only sale.

[doves]

>Historically the site has taken the stance of moderating content as little as possible and really I do not see that changing.


I guess I'm still not making myself clear: There's a difference between not moderating content & enabling/prompoting/fascilitating it.

Letting Neo-Nazis march down our street: Hands-off approach; freedoms.

Building a clubhouse for Neo-Nazis in our town hall & promoting it in our town newspaper? Fucked up, and makes our town look retarded.

Apologies, Mr. Godwin, but when obvious shit like "promoting ponzis makes Bitcoin look bad" needs to be explained, I'm running out of absurdities to reach for.