Minor trust score algorithm change

[sukamasoto]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

Can i ask a clear explanation on what does the 'month' do or its effect? I cant understand it clearly

I think the score will change after a month

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[tidus1097]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

[Muhammed Zakir]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

[chronicsky]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

That's how it has always been , Trade with DF and get Trust else stay Neutral even after 100 Feedbacks

[EcuaMobi]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Only ratings from people on your trust network affect how you see other people's trust. For the great majority of users (who don't change any settings) that means only feedback from users on default trust levels up to 2.

If you add or remove people from your trust list you will see everyone's trust differently. The theory is that you don't trust at all users outside of your trust network so their ratings don't matter. The problem is most users never really create their own trust network and just use the  default one.

[tidus1097]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

I can and do understand the reasoning behind this and its purpose, but, idk. Seems like their would be a better solution. Maybe a untrusted feedback ranking score as well.

[Muhammed Zakir]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

I can and do understand the reasoning behind this and its purpose, but, idk. Seems like their would be a better solution. Maybe a untrusted feedback ranking score as well.

Untrusted feedback score can easily be manipulated. It won't have any "good" use.

[tidus1097]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

I can and do understand the reasoning behind this and its purpose, but, idk. Seems like their would be a better solution. Maybe a untrusted feedback ranking score as well.

Untrusted feedback score can easily be manipulated. It won't have any "good" use.

I feel that default trust can be manipulated as well. So I do not think that argument is valid.

[byt411]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

I can and do understand the reasoning behind this and its purpose, but, idk. Seems like their would be a better solution. Maybe a untrusted feedback ranking score as well.

Untrusted feedback score can easily be manipulated. It won't have any "good" use.

I feel that default trust can be manipulated as well. So I do not think that argument is valid.

I don't agree. A user can simply create alts and leave feedback on himself to bump up their untrusted feedback score. A user cannot create alts that are on defaulttrust.

[tidus1097]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

I can and do understand the reasoning behind this and its purpose, but, idk. Seems like their would be a better solution. Maybe a untrusted feedback ranking score as well.

Untrusted feedback score can easily be manipulated. It won't have any "good" use.

I feel that default trust can be manipulated as well. So I do not think that argument is valid.

I don't agree. A user can simply create alts and leave feedback on himself to bump up their untrusted feedback score. A user cannot create alts that are on defaulttrust.

While that is true, and I do agree with that, but its also true that trust buying goes on here as well. It may not be monetary funds or even cryptocurrency, but the fact does remain trust can be bought. All I'm saying is the system is always ready for improvements. We just have to think about what those improvements could be and implement them to see if the desired effect does work.

[koelen3]

While that is true, and I do agree with that, but its also true that trust buying goes on here as well. It may not be monetary funds or even cryptocurrency, but the fact does remain trust can be bought. All I'm saying is the system is always ready for improvements. We just have to think about what those improvements could be and implement them to see if the desired effect does work.

That will be no use , as people will always find exploits and use them for their advantage.
It is best to have this limited to Default User's Only , i don't know if anyone is selling trust but this new change as i understand will make it hard for them.
Even if you get 5 Ratings right now from 5 different people , you will need to wait 1 month to turn Light Green , 2 more months to become Dark Green.
And if only 1 person gives you trust again and again , than it will be Light Green and first number as 10 at the max.
So it is actually better and safer to abuse than before.

[byt411]

The first number is the trust score.

So the trust score appear if you receive any trust include positive and negative on default trust and out of default trust ?

That's what I'm curious about. If someone trades someone out of default trust does it still raise the score? Or is the only way to raise the score is to trade with default trust? If so, that does not seem right. I do understand that you shouldn't trade exclusively with default trust nor do I, but if someone has alot of successful trades with other members that are not on default trust, that does not seem right that they would not get some sort of rating increase. That of course if trading outside default trust does not change your rating.

Numbers in trust rating increases only if you get positive feedback from default trust list users.

I can and do understand the reasoning behind this and its purpose, but, idk. Seems like their would be a better solution. Maybe a untrusted feedback ranking score as well.

Untrusted feedback score can easily be manipulated. It won't have any "good" use.

I feel that default trust can be manipulated as well. So I do not think that argument is valid.

I don't agree. A user can simply create alts and leave feedback on himself to bump up their untrusted feedback score. A user cannot create alts that are on defaulttrust.

While that is true, and I do agree with that, but its also true that trust buying goes on here as well. It may not be monetary funds or even cryptocurrency, but the fact does remain trust can be bought. All I'm saying is the system is always ready for improvements. We just have to think about what those improvements could be and implement them to see if the desired effect does work.

I still don't see the problem. If you don't like the people on defaulttrust, you can build your own trust list.

[Blazed]

I think the default network is pretty solid now. If anyone leaves some questionable feedback it is openly dealt with here in meta. I just think that the scores are too high and will give newbies a false sence of security. If you are new and see some guy with a +10 trust score you assume he is trusted... I think the new formula is alright just the numbers are too high.

[koelen3]

I think the default network is pretty solid now. If anyone leaves some questionable feedback it is openly dealt with here in meta. I just think that the scores are too high and will give newbies a false sence of security. If you are new and see some guy with a +10 trust score you assume he is trusted... I think the new formula is alright just the numbers are too high.

+1
Also i think you're the highest one here with 222  Trust Score  along with Ognasty
Can't find anyone else

[DebitMe]

I think the default network is pretty solid now. If anyone leaves some questionable feedback it is openly dealt with here in meta. I just think that the scores are too high and will give newbies a false sence of security. If you are new and see some guy with a +10 trust score you assume he is trusted... I think the new formula is alright just the numbers are too high.

+1
Also i think you're the highest one here with 222  Trust Score  along with Ognasty
Can't find anyone else

dangit, so close with 213

[PistolPete]

I think the default network is pretty solid now.

You would think so but no, it isn't.

[Blazed]

I think the default network is pretty solid now.

You would think so but no, it isn't.

What is wrong with it? Disputes seem to get handled well and out in the open.

[Blazed]

I think the default network is pretty solid now. If anyone leaves some questionable feedback it is openly dealt with here in meta. I just think that the scores are too high and will give newbies a false sence of security. If you are new and see some guy with a +10 trust score you assume he is trusted... I think the new formula is alright just the numbers are too high.

+1
Also i think you're the highest one here with 222  Trust Score  along with Ognasty
Can't find anyone else

dangit, so close with 213

Well once I add my personal network back I show myself as 444: -0 / +57 and OgNasty being the highest with 479: -0 / +56. I think that with using default only I am probably the highest rated though...not sure.

[PistolPete]

I think the default network is pretty solid now.

You would think so but no, it isn't.

What is wrong with it? Disputes seem to get handled well and out in the open.

Remember the nice deals with Marco, which allowed him to remain green? This moron got ripped off after being fooled by the nice color.

Ask yourself - would you've got that amount in advance if you didn't have your Level 2 ability? Cross check with all those he threw out of the campaign.

[Blazed]

I think the default network is pretty solid now.

You would think so but no, it isn't.

What is wrong with it? Disputes seem to get handled well and out in the open.

Remember the nice deals with Marco, which allowed him to remain green? This moron got ripped off after being fooled by the nice color.

Ask yourself - would you've got that amount in advance if you didn't have your Level 2 ability? Cross check with all those he threw out of the campaign.

I think if anything my reputation and good feedback gets me better deals...not being lvl 2 in the trust network. I was getting those "special" deals well before the drama started.