Recent dadice.com development

[shorena]

Why doesn't devthedev or whoever is running the show code a counting bot that will pay automatically after a line of writing and spare himself all the hassle.

For signature campaigns? Posts need to be checked and things like that. I was tempted to make a website where signature campaign managers can offer their services, signature campaign owners can go to find a manager, and people who want to participate in a signature campaign can go to find one but I can't be bothered. Even that would only save the log side of things e.g. spreadsheets. Managers are basically a necessity.

A necessity for what exactly? The forum has been ridden with spam scams and drama and people go to learn about bitcoins to other sources of information. The circle jerk is running this shitshow here anyway.

That is kind of true, but Bitcointalk is still quite large and obviously the (mostly casinos) companies/people who want to run signature campaigns find some kind of benefit from it else they wouldn't pay for them. You can't really argue with the money-flow.

#1 what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

#2 if you want to advertise your siganture (as you both do) and/or buy the signature from someone else for advertising purposes it is in your interest to make sure that spam is dealt with. Preferably not by admins. BadBear has been swinging the ban hammer very well, but there will be a point where they are just sick of it and just bad signature campaigns. If you think a bot can handle this you are mistaken. You will need a human to judge the quality of a post in its context (for now). Marcotheminer is using a bot to assist the count, but AFAIK is still doing manual checks. Ndnhc et al. are very strict which posts/users they pay for which is a good development and takes some of the burden from the staff.

[DiamondCardz]

Why doesn't devthedev or whoever is running the show code a counting bot that will pay automatically after a line of writing and spare himself all the hassle.

For signature campaigns? Posts need to be checked and things like that. I was tempted to make a website where signature campaign managers can offer their services, signature campaign owners can go to find a manager, and people who want to participate in a signature campaign can go to find one but I can't be bothered. Even that would only save the log side of things e.g. spreadsheets. Managers are basically a necessity.

A necessity for what exactly? The forum has been ridden with spam scams and drama and people go to learn about bitcoins to other sources of information. The circle jerk is running this shitshow here anyway.

That is kind of true, but Bitcointalk is still quite large and obviously the (mostly casinos) companies/people who want to run signature campaigns find some kind of benefit from it else they wouldn't pay for them. You can't really argue with the money-flow.

#1 what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

Yeah, my bad it is off-topic, I guess it only slightly relates in that dadice runs a signature campaign. Was just answering a question I saw though.

OT, so dadice is still refusing to verify cold storages? I plan to add an entry for them to my Overview thread today, so if they still are...the ratings are gonna drop.

[a1choi]

lets hope this doesn't turn into another shitshow like dicebitcoin and dice.ninja

[shorena]

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Yeah, my bad it is off-topic, I guess it only slightly relates in that dadice runs a signature campaign. Was just answering a question I saw though.

Im fine with offtopic replies as long as its not derailing the thread, but if you start a parallel discussion its probably best to move it elsewhere.

OT, so dadice is still refusing to verify cold storages? I plan to add an entry for them to my Overview thread today, so if they still are...the ratings are gonna drop.

AFAIK they just disabled the option to invest and ignored everything afterwards. I think its reasonable to assume that one of them would contact me directly or via proxy should they make a a signed message public verifying their funds. I will certainly change the OP and my rating and let you know here when this happens.

lets hope this doesn't turn into another shitshow like dicebitcoin and dice.ninja

fingers crossed.

[NorrisK]

After reading this thread in happy that I decided to join a different campaign for now... This feedback is not good for any service. Although it seems their manager has returned to the campaign thread!

[amiryaqot]

After reading this thread in happy that I decided to join a different campaign for now... This feedback is not good for any service. Although it seems their manager has returned to the campaign thread!

when you was part of this campaign i didn't see you there even in archives list too, i didn't agree with agree with your post that is totally misleading as they are using funds of escrow for their campaign and paying the competitive rates for this.

[sguegliam]

Sorry but i don't have understand, the problem  of webmasters don't add a prove to cold wallet is only for investor or also for players?

[erwin45hacked]

Sorry but i don't have understand, the problem  of webmasters don't add a prove to cold wallet is only for investor or also for players?

Both of them are in risk because if a site could not provide a solvency proof then there is a chance that the site might turn out to be a scam site. That is why most gambling site provide their cold address to prove solvency, so that people could play there without worrying about their withdrawal not getting through

[Quickseller]

You might want to add dadice_pr to the list of accounts associated with DaDice.

According to this post, it is an "official" DaDice account.

profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=538753

[Quickseller]

OT, so dadice is still refusing to verify cold storages? I plan to add an entry for them to my Overview thread today, so if they still are...the ratings are gonna drop.

AFAIK they just disabled the option to invest and ignored everything afterwards. I think its reasonable to assume that one of them would contact me directly or via proxy should they make a a signed message public verifying their funds. I will certainly change the OP and my rating and let you know here when this happens.

No, they actually hid the option to invest while publicly saying they were not accepting investments. This was brought to light when this scam accusation was opened against them.

[fox19891989]

You might want to add dadice_pr to the list of accounts associated with DaDice.

According to this post, it is an "official" DaDice account.

profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=538753

You claim dadice is a scam site in the profile, and you bumped this dead thread again, why do u hate dadice so much, they paid u a lot in sig campaign, and currently we don't see any proofs that dadice refuses to pay.

But satoshidice is indeed scamming people, why u guys don't give SD neg rate?

Also I have post a thread in scam accusation to claim PMpoker is a scam site, I have solid proofs, but none of you guys gave him neg rate.

It is unfair to give dadice neg rate but don't give neg rate to real sites.

[arallmuus]

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There isnt any need to start all over this thing again. The negative trust is some sort of warning and not a sole guidance as people are free to proceed at their own cost. Bringing this matter over and over again wont change any rating of Dadice because if they want their rating to be changed, all they need is to sign a simple BTC address which they refused .

Furthermore, if you got a site that you suspect as a scammer than you will just need to PM few guys on default trust, it is not likely every one of them going on a patrol in scam accusation

[tspacepilot]

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There isnt any need to start all over this thing again. The negative trust is some sort of warning and not a sole guidance as people are free to proceed at their own cost. Bringing this matter over and over again wont change any rating of Dadice because if they want their rating to be changed, all they need is to sign a simple BTC address which they refused .

Furthermore, if you got a site that you suspect as a scammer than you will just need to PM few guys on default trust, it is not likely every one of them going on a patrol in scam accusation

I think it's quite well and good for fox to question what QS is doing here.  His vitriol regarding dadice stands out and makes one ask why.  Yes, others on default trust have neg-repped dadice, but QS shows up in the dadice thread semi-regularly and trolls, and takes opportunities to call them a "scam site" on unrelated threads as well.  Now he's bumping a month old thread twice in once day.  I think it's fair to ask why.

[ndnh]

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There isnt any need to start all over this thing again. The negative trust is some sort of warning and not a sole guidance as people are free to proceed at their own cost. Bringing this matter over and over again wont change any rating of Dadice because if they want their rating to be changed, all they need is to sign a simple BTC address which they refused .

Furthermore, if you got a site that you suspect as a scammer than you will just need to PM few guys on default trust, it is not likely every one of them going on a patrol in scam accusation

I see QS being a little partial to Da Dice.

Well, with all this, it wouldn't be surprising for you to bump a 2 month old thread twice for the opportunity to get a newbie account one more negative trust..

[shorena]

You might want to add dadice_pr to the list of accounts associated with DaDice.

According to this post, it is an "official" DaDice account.

profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=538753

Added them to the OP, thanks.

[ndnh]

@QS, what exactly is your definition of a scam?

It doesn't currently go: "All sort of things and matters, that Quickseller deems a scam".
May be update your trust feedback that it is only your humble and possibly incorrect opinion?

This is an official account of the scam site DaDice

See this thread for more details --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066980.0

Please be kind enough to point out who has been scammed by Da Dice?

[dadice]

@QS, what exactly is your definition of a scam?

It doesn't currently go: "All sort of things and matters, that Quickseller deems a scam".
May be update your trust feedback that it is only your humble and possibly incorrect opinion?

This is an official account of the scam site DaDice

See this thread for more details --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066980.0

Please be kind enough to point out who has been scammed by Da Dice?

Don't mind ndnhc, both shorena and quickseller are now promoting a white label "Casino" with no proof to be provably fair (no RNG Certificate) and with no cold wallet address that is covering the jackpot of 3,800+ btc. That is how credible they really are   Funny isn't it

[fox19891989]

@QS, what exactly is your definition of a scam?

It doesn't currently go: "All sort of things and matters, that Quickseller deems a scam".
May be update your trust feedback that it is only your humble and possibly incorrect opinion?

This is an official account of the scam site DaDice

See this thread for more details --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066980.0

Please be kind enough to point out who has been scammed by Da Dice?

Don't mind ndnhc, both shorena and quickseller are now promoting a white label "Casino" with no proof to be provably fair (no RNG Certificate) and with no cold wallet address that is covering the jackpot of 3,800+ btc. That is how credible they really are   Funny isn't it

What a pity, they promoted your site very actively but now are both claiming dadice is scam, I can't understand why, I think you paid them the best rate, but they don't know to be grateful. And you haven't scammed anyone so far, how can they claim you are scam.

[panjul07]

Sorry but i don't have understand, the problem  of webmasters don't add a prove to cold wallet is only for investor or also for players?

Both of them are in risk because if a site could not provide a solvency proof then there is a chance that the site might turn out to be a scam site. That is why most gambling site provide their cold address to prove solvency, so that people could play there without worrying about their withdrawal not getting through

Does it mean that the sites who provide the cold address has no chance to be a scam site in the future?
I'd say that providing cold address to prove solvency is not a guarantee, because there is always a chance for them to choose not to pay out.
Not mention to defend Dadice, but I'm saying in general.

[Quickseller]

@QS, what exactly is your definition of a scam?

It doesn't currently go: "All sort of things and matters, that Quickseller deems a scam".
May be update your trust feedback that it is only your humble and possibly incorrect opinion?

This is an official account of the scam site DaDice

See this thread for more details --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066980.0

Please be kind enough to point out who has been scammed by Da Dice?

Don't mind ndnhc, both shorena and quickseller are now promoting a white label "Casino" with no proof to be provably fair (no RNG Certificate) and with no cold wallet address that is covering the jackpot of 3,800+ btc. That is how credible they really are  Funny isn't it

What a pity, they promoted your site very actively but now are both claiming dadice is scam, I can't understand why, I think you paid them the best rate, but they don't know to be grateful. And you haven't scammed anyone so far, how can they claim you are scam.

So you think that as long as a site pays people who would potentially call them out as being a scam, such people should not call them out? I can't speak for shorena, however I can say that my trust is not for sale. DaDice was paying for a service (advertisements), and they got it from both myself and shorena. I stopped providing my services when I got a better offer (although I also would have stopped when I discovered they were a scam), and shorena stopped providing his services when it turned out that DaDice was a scam site.

Sorry but i don't have understand, the problem  of webmasters don't add a prove to cold wallet is only for investor or also for players?

Both of them are in risk because if a site could not provide a solvency proof then there is a chance that the site might turn out to be a scam site. That is why most gambling site provide their cold address to prove solvency, so that people could play there without worrying about their withdrawal not getting through

Does it mean that the sites who provide the cold address has no chance to be a scam site in the future?
I'd say that providing cold address to prove solvency is not a guarantee, because there is always a chance for them to choose not to pay out.
Not mention to defend Dadice, but I'm saying in general.

No, but not providing a cold storage address means that there is no proof that such site is not running a ponzi and/or is actually able to payout the bets that they are accepting. Not showing a cold storage address means that no one has any reason to believe that DaDice has as large of a bankroll as they claim, as there is zero evidence that they do.