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March 04, 2011, 05:55:43 PM
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And i get the feeling that the Anarchist community don't like currency speculators...again fundamentally this could cause some problems down the road as i suspect that the bulk of the hoarders are anarchists?

It's only the weird oddballs that hate currency speculators.

God damn sons-a-bitch speculators, grrrr!  Angry

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March 04, 2011, 06:51:39 PM
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Maybe we could somehow get involved with this guy's project? http://www.insideoutproject.net/
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March 04, 2011, 07:44:56 PM
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Perhaps it would be useful information if we had a demographic breakdown of the current members of this forum.  Data like:
-gender (are there any females on here yet?)

Don't take it personally, but this is something I get a little tired of.  The forum statistics say clearly that one third of registered users here are female.  The problem is not getting female users online, it is getting rid of the idea that they already aren't.  For example, what gender am I?  If you stop to think about it, you assumed I was male, didn't you?

There do exist systemic forces that cause a gender disparity in highly technical or theoretical fields, but women are already online.  If they don't feel comfortable posting or identifying themselves, maybe it's not something with regards to them that has to be done.


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March 04, 2011, 08:22:21 PM
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Perhaps it would be useful information if we had a demographic breakdown of the current members of this forum.  Data like:
-gender (are there any females on here yet?)

Don't take it personally, but this is something I get a little tired of.  The forum statistics say clearly that one third of registered users here are female.  The problem is not getting female users online, it is getting rid of the idea that they already aren't.  For example, what gender am I?  If you stop to think about it, you assumed I was male, didn't you?

There do exist systemic forces that cause a gender disparity in highly technical or theoretical fields, but women are already online.  If they don't feel comfortable posting or identifying themselves, maybe it's not something with regards to them that has to be done.


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Your forum statistics are not reliable because of the large number of spam accounts that are on here.

I'm sorry if I offended you.  My remark was based on being a frequent visitor to this forum and only having one self-identified woman post in all that time.  And she came on here specifically to bash something someone else had said, not because she was a supporter of bitcoin.
Also, I was referring to gender on this forum, not online as you seem to have interpreted it.  As to why some people don't feel comfortable posting, I have no way of knowing why they wouldn't do this.  And I don't appreciate the implication that it is the fault of other people on this forum that they won't do so.  If you have some concrete allegations to make, please put them out there (in the appropriate thread).

The larger point I was making is it might be helpful to know who we are, so that we can more intelligently reach out to people who haven't heard of bitcoin.

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March 04, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
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Perhaps it would be useful information if we had a demographic breakdown of the current members of this forum.  Data like:
-gender (are there any females on here yet?)
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Your forum statistics are not reliable because of the large number of spam accounts that are on here.

I'm sorry if I offended you.  My remark was based on being a frequent visitor to this forum and only having one self-identified woman post in all that time.  And she came on here specifically to bash something someone else had said, not because she was a supporter of bitcoin.
Also, I was referring to gender on this forum, not online as you seem to have interpreted it.  As to why some people don't feel comfortable posting, I have no way of knowing why they wouldn't do this.  And I don't appreciate the implication that it is the fault of other people on this forum that they won't do so.  If you have some concrete allegations to make, please put them out there (in the appropriate thread).

The larger point I was making is it might be helpful to know who we are, so that we can more intelligently reach out to people who haven't heard of bitcoin.


That was a straight up rant--nothing against you, just a personal pet peeve.  Comments like (are there any females on here yet?) set a tone that, unsurprisingly, is frustrating to many women.  Yours is not the first by any stretch that I've seen on the bitcoin forums (to which I was specifically referring), merely the colloquial straw.  But it is a real issue.

Your larger point is of course, unlike mine, on-topic.

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March 04, 2011, 08:49:26 PM
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 I wonder how many people under the age of 18 are on here.
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March 04, 2011, 09:16:01 PM
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Probably quite a few people under 18 but I'm guessing.  Going back to how to promote bitcoin, I know they are kinda on the fringe, but how about things like Coast to Coast AM and Alex Jones. I mean, like I say they are kinda on the fringe, but they have a fairly large listening audience, and I get the feeling a lot of them are the type that tend to do things like hoard gold now.  I listen to coast to coast, I don't hoard gold but I don't have the money for that, plus I expect the govt will simply make trading gold illegal when the dollar crash comes.  FDR did it before after all.  I also think Judge Napolitano and Glenn Beck weren't stupid ideas, although I sincerely doubt glenn beck would understand the technical aspects of bitcoin, he would understand that it's about getting away from the Fed and the market manipulation that goes along with it.  A lot of people on the far right are very worried about the state of the FRN right now (justifiably IMHO), and we might be able to get acceptance through this. 
On a completely different note, but also in line with getting more people to use bitcoin, there are a lot of business models that are completely legal, but extremely difficult to find a CC processor for.  Things like online tobacco sales, online ammunition sales, private firearms sales (would only be legal in US if you held an FFL or only did business in your state), and even "adult content".  Also, bitcoin could have a role as an in game payment currency for mobile and social network games.  I realize that long term micropayments aren't a very good thing for the network, but what some of the mobile apps are referring to as micropayments aren't micro at all.  Also, maybe an android app store run using bitcoin, the overlap between developers that opt to use a linux based mobile platform and libertarian minded hackers might be all that would be needed to gain acceptance.

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March 04, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
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I tried to flog bitcoin to Alex Jones this week but couldn't find an email address to connect to him.  He'd be a good one I reckon.  Must be somebody on here with a connection to him, given the political inclinations of this crowd.

Of course we could also try the 4Chan/Justin Bieber approach:
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While often used for political or subversive motives, there are also bombs that are purely around in the name of mischief. The notorious picture board 4Chan targeted tweenie-pop star Justin Bieber with a Google bomb in June 2010:

“Go to Google and search ‘Justin Bieber Syphilis’. Let’s get this to be No. 1 searched phrase on Google Trends. Use an autoclicker or macro if possible and get others involved. Unlike a death rumor, this will be hard for him to disprove.”

Users of the site bombarded Google with thousands of searches for the phrase: “Justin Bieber Syphilis”. By midnight it was at the top of Google's U.S. Hot Searches. While this isn’t a traditional Google Bomb (as it doesn’t attempt to manipulate search results) it certainly is an attempt to artificially shift traffic patterns!

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March 04, 2011, 11:13:44 PM
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I tried to flog bitcoin to Alex Jones this week but couldn't find an email address to connect to him.  He'd be a good one I reckon.  Must be somebody on here with a connection to him, given the political inclinations of this crowd.

Of course we could also try the 4Chan/Justin Bieber approach:
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While often used for political or subversive motives, there are also bombs that are purely around in the name of mischief. The notorious picture board 4Chan targeted tweenie-pop star Justin Bieber with a Google bomb in June 2010:

“Go to Google and search ‘Justin Bieber Syphilis’. Let’s get this to be No. 1 searched phrase on Google Trends. Use an autoclicker or macro if possible and get others involved. Unlike a death rumor, this will be hard for him to disprove.”

Users of the site bombarded Google with thousands of searches for the phrase: “Justin Bieber Syphilis”. By midnight it was at the top of Google's U.S. Hot Searches. While this isn’t a traditional Google Bomb (as it doesn’t attempt to manipulate search results) it certainly is an attempt to artificially shift traffic patterns!

Later the same year 4chan users tried to get Bieber sent to North Korea by voting for the destination in a poll for which country he should perform in.

Read more: http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/incredible-google-bombs.html#ixzz1FfYUeKnc


Not only Alex Jones , try contacting some of his guests. Gerald Celente for one. Max Keiser is another who has already done a show about bitcoin.

All it would take is for one of them to mention bitcoin on his show or to Alex himself. If he starts hearing it from a few different guests he might investigate. But then again he might think bitcoin is a conspiracy and that we will all end up with bitcoin addresses tattooed on our foreheads....

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March 05, 2011, 02:54:53 AM
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If Charlie Sheen was our spokesman, Alex Jones would definitely hear about it. Cheesy

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March 05, 2011, 03:46:31 AM
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But... how do you shut down a P2P system?  Smiley

I think they wouldn't even bother trying on the technical side. They'd probably just 'outlaw' the use of bitcoin for commerce and suddenly no legitimate business would think about accepting it :/

Or is there something that stops them from 'forbidding a currency' in general?

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March 05, 2011, 03:54:46 AM
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Private currencies are not illegal.

If they ban bitcoin they also have to ban cash for the exact same reasons.

Im certain the feds would probably setup a child porn or  drugs for bitcoin honeypot .
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