Nominate (insert name here) to the default trust list

[Muhammed Zakir]

devthedev and OgNasty should have both been added to the list a long long time ago. if the list isnt updated then its pointless

OgNasty is there but devthedev isn't.

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[legendster]

devthedev and OgNasty should have both been added to the list a long long time ago. if the list isnt updated then its pointless

Yeah a lot of other people have other names as well, this thread's purpose is to bring out those names & hold it in front of the Mod's faces.

[TheGr33k]

Monbux is kinda trusted and even he is not added in the list. I would recommend Monbux's and Devthedev's name to be added into the list

[jacktheking]

Out of those 7 people in the list. I only know devthedev. I voted and was not surprised that he was ranked first with five votes (including mine). Anyway, I always thought he was in the default trust list.. LoL!

[legendster]

Monbux is kinda trusted and even he is not added in the list. I would recommend Monbux's and Devthedev's name to be added into the list

Monbux is now added.

[Quickseller]

I don't think who is in the default trust network should be up for any kind of vote. Votes/polls here can be easily manipulated and as a result are nearly worthless.

Also who is on default trust should not be a popularity contest, otherwise people will start giving out positive ratings just to get votes, and the same with removing negatives from scammers (allowing them to scam again).

Also most of the people on your poll are already in the default trust network.

If you think someone deserves to be on default trust then you should PM someone on level 1 default trust with your reasons. Or if they respect your opinion they will proactively ask you for suggestions.

[KarmaShark]

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[tspacepilot]

While there's nothing wrong with the OP having a little fun.  It should be pointed out that being on the default list level 1 means that effectively, you are on Theymos' trust list.  Being on default trust level 2 means you are on someone's trust list who is on theymos' trust list.  There's no real meritocracy here, it's just a matter of who ya know and cetera.  Most of the folks who come and go from default trust are doing so on level 2 as someone on level 1 trusts them (perhaps temporarily).  You can see this with quickseller, he was on there for a moment from Badbear, who then had buyer's remorse.  Tomotocage has readded him, we'll see how long this lasts.  In the end, the people up the chain are more or less responsible for the behavior of the people down the chain.  If you don't vouch for the behavior of someone on your trust list, remove them!  This includes people on default trust.  If you don't like what someone on default trust is doing, put a tilde '~' before their name on your trust list (or remove the default trust list altogether).

I've argued many times that the default trust list is the crutch which people need to get rid of and it just enables people like those trust rangers that OP complains about to rule the forum and cause problems for people who cross them.  The best thing we can do is remove default trust from our lists and build our own lists as we interact with people.  A better thing, which is a long shot, would be to encourage Theymos to change default trust to "opt-in" rather than "opt-out".  This would also encourage people to build their own trust lists based on experience and weaken the abusers of the trust system.  The next best thing would be to change the warning message when someone has negative trust from the misleading and inflammatory "WARNING ... EXTREME CAUTION" to something more descriptive "This user has received negative feedback from someone on your trust list", with a link to your trust settings.  That would, IMO, encourage people to learn about the trust system and how to use it properly.

[KarmaShark]

While there's nothing wrong with the OP having a little fun.  It should be pointed out that being on the default list level 1 means that effectively, you are on Theymos' trust list.  Being on default trust level 2 means you are on someone's trust list who is on theymos' trust list.  There's no real meritocracy here, it's just a matter of who ya know and cetera.  Most of the folks who come and go from default trust are doing so on level 2 as someone on level 1 trusts them (perhaps temporarily).  You can see this with quickseller, he was on there for a moment from Badbear, who then had buyer's remorse.  Tomotocage has readded him, we'll see how long this lasts.  In the end, the people up the chain are more or less responsible for the behavior of the people down the chain.  If you don't vouch for the behavior of someone on your trust list, remove them!  This includes people on default trust.  If you don't like what someone on default trust is doing, put a tilde '~' before their name on your trust list (or remove the default trust list altogether).

I've argued many times that the default trust list is the crutch which people need to get rid of and it just enables people like those trust rangers that OP complains about to rule the forum and cause problems for people who cross them.  The best thing we can do is remove default trust from our lists and build our own lists as we interact with people.  A better thing, which is a long shot, would be to encourage Theymos to change default trust to "opt-in" rather than "opt-out".  This would also encourage people to build their own trust lists based on experience and weaken the abusers of the trust system.  The next best thing would be to change the warning message when someone has negative trust from the misleading and inflammatory "WARNING ... EXTREME CAUTION" to something more descriptive "This user has received negative feedback from someone on your trust list", with a link to your trust settings.  That would, IMO, encourage people to learn about the trust system and how to use it properly.

Just a little correction here
Theymos' Trust list and DefaultTrust List are different.
Theymos Himself is in DefaultTrust List , not the other way around.
Everything else you said does make a point and DefaultTrust user must not be choosen via voting but personally by Theymos

[koshgel]

I vote Kluge! He's the wittiest member by far 

Xetsr I would trust since he's traded with such sheer volume of BTC.

SaltySpitoon as well since he's always been composed and even-tempered even in his position of power.

Actually surprised that neither of these three are on DT.

[legendster]

People won't be able to change their vote if someone is added to the list, will they? That doesn't really make sense.

edit: s/10+/55+/

Dont vote until your favorite person is in the list. Problem solved.

[DebitMe]

I vote Kluge! He's the wittiest member by far 

Xetsr I would trust since he's traded with such sheer volume of BTC.

SaltySpitoon as well since he's always been composed and even-tempered even in his position of power.

Actually surprised that neither of these three are on DT.

I always get surprised too by who is and who isn't in default trust.  I have my own personal list of members who I hold in pretty high regard here, and they aren't always on default trust.  If they have never traded with someone on default trust, then they have a pretty low chance of getting there.

[legendster]

I don't think who is in the default trust network should be up for any kind of vote. Votes/polls here can be easily manipulated and as a result are nearly worthless.

Also who is on default trust should not be a popularity contest, otherwise people will start giving out positive ratings just to get votes, and the same with removing negatives from scammers (allowing them to scam again).

Also most of the people on your poll are already in the default trust network.

If you think someone deserves to be on default trust then you should PM someone on level 1 default trust with your reasons. Or if they respect your opinion they will proactively ask you for suggestions.

Your opinion is duly noted..... and ignored.

[legendster]

I vote Kluge! He's the wittiest member by far  

Xetsr I would trust since he's traded with such sheer volume of BTC.

SaltySpitoon as well since he's always been composed and even-tempered even in his position of power.

Actually surprised that neither of these three are on DT.

Hey its a big place I dont know every one around here. Thats why its a nomination game. Kluge is now on the list.

I always get surprised too by who is and who isn't in default trust.  I have my own personal list of members who I hold in pretty high regard here, and they aren't always on default trust.  If they have never traded with someone on default trust, then they have a pretty low chance of getting there.

That is why we all can edit our trust settings and decide for ourselves who trust and whom to not trust.

[Quickseller]

I vote Kluge! He's the wittiest member by far  

Xetsr I would trust since he's traded with such sheer volume of BTC.

SaltySpitoon as well since he's always been composed and even-tempered even in his position of power.

Actually surprised that neither of these three are on DT.

All three of them are in the default trust network? Salty is on level 1 and the other two are on level 2

[legendster]

@OP i see you Red , why are you even in the list , you don't qualify with 55 Trust

Its kinda getting repetitive. World Cup Host Nation Rule!! Read the full post.

[legendster]

While there's nothing wrong with the OP having a little fun.  It should be pointed out that being on the default list level 1 means that effectively, you are on Theymos' trust list.  Being on default trust level 2 means you are on someone's trust list who is on theymos' trust list.  There's no real meritocracy here, it's just a matter of who ya know and cetera.  Most of the folks who come and go from default trust are doing so on level 2 as someone on level 1 trusts them (perhaps temporarily).  You can see this with quickseller, he was on there for a moment from Badbear, who then had buyer's remorse.  Tomotocage has readded him, we'll see how long this lasts.  In the end, the people up the chain are more or less responsible for the behavior of the people down the chain.  If you don't vouch for the behavior of someone on your trust list, remove them!  This includes people on default trust.  If you don't like what someone on default trust is doing, put a tilde '~' before their name on your trust list (or remove the default trust list altogether).

I've argued many times that the default trust list is the crutch which people need to get rid of and it just enables people like those trust rangers that OP complains about to rule the forum and cause problems for people who cross them.  The best thing we can do is remove default trust from our lists and build our own lists as we interact with people.  A better thing, which is a long shot, would be to encourage Theymos to change default trust to "opt-in" rather than "opt-out".  This would also encourage people to build their own trust lists based on experience and weaken the abusers of the trust system.  The next best thing would be to change the warning message when someone has negative trust from the misleading and inflammatory "WARNING ... EXTREME CAUTION" to something more descriptive "This user has received negative feedback from someone on your trust list", with a link to your trust settings.  That would, IMO, encourage people to learn about the trust system and how to use it properly.

I couldnt agree more to what you said, but yes Theymos is IN the Default list and his "Trust List" might have some other people in it but both are not the same thing.
That is why I said, I support vigilance but I do not support Vigilantism.

[koshgel]

I vote Kluge! He's the wittiest member by far  

Xetsr I would trust since he's traded with such sheer volume of BTC.

SaltySpitoon as well since he's always been composed and even-tempered even in his position of power.

Actually surprised that neither of these three are on DT.

All three of them are in the default trust network? Salty is on level 1 and the other two are on level 2

I figured they weren't, since they were on this list. I try not to keep up with DT drama. 

[legendster]

I vote Kluge! He's the wittiest member by far  

Xetsr I would trust since he's traded with such sheer volume of BTC.

SaltySpitoon as well since he's always been composed and even-tempered even in his position of power.

Actually surprised that neither of these three are on DT.

All three of them are in the default trust network? Salty is on level 1 and the other two are on level 2

I figured they weren't, since they were on this list. I try not to keep up with DT drama. 

Current Default list :
    theymos (1)
    HostFat (1)
    dooglus (1)
    Maged (1)
    dserrano5 (1)
    OgNasty (1)
    Tomatocage (1)
    SaltySpitoon (1)
    DeaDTerra (1)
    BadBear (1)
    philipma1957 (1)
    escrow.ms (1)
    OldScammerTag (1)


My bad I'll remove Ognasty & Salty

[TheGr33k]

I noticed that Shdvb has traded big amounts of bitcoins and he is not even in Depth 4. That's weird.
Same goes with many others.