What if Satoshi was revealed to be Charles Manson

[JohnnyBTCSeed]

Would it matter to you if bitcoin was created by an evil entity? Would you have ever used it?


Don't know who Charles Manson is?? Well then substitute the evil person of your choice..

Here are some popular evil choices..

Hitler
Saddamn Hussein
George Bush
Satan
Stalin
Osama Bin Laden
Pol Pot
Mao Zedong
CIA

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[Unbelive]

I am not sure if Satan comes in group of people you listed there. Satan is more in line of God, Little red riding hood, Thor , Spock.

[Possum577]

Would it matter to you if bitcoin was created by an evil entity? Would you have ever used it?

Here are some popular evil choices..

Hitler -Dead
Saddamn Hussein -Dead
George Bush -Not smart enough, could be debated if he's "evil" because he didn't have some elaborate scheming idea to corrupt a whole population, he was jut trying to finish a fight his daddy picked with a neighbor years ago
Satan -Does this idea exist?
Stalin Dead
Osama Bin Laden -Dead
Pol Pot -Dead
Mao Zedong -Dead
CIA -Plausible, but not likely

So your question is, would we be upset if bitcoin was created by someone evil who died, years, decades or centuries ago (ex-CIA)? No, it would not upset me. I'd be more fascinated by the fact that these people had come back to life!

IF someone notoriously evil did create bitcoin, it would likely improve the popular opinion of that person. It could be seen as a redemption move, they're giving back to the world in a positive way.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

My personal belief is Bitcoin by itself is good. Keep that in mind.

Did you know that Bitcoin may be predicted in the bible? Some Christians may believe Bitcoin to lead to the mark of the beast:

Revelation 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

There is a man who injected himself so he can walk around with his wallet inside his hands:

http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11/man-has-nfc-chips-injected-into-his-hands-to-store-cold-bitcoin-wallet/

"....For the last 10 days, Martijn Wismeijer, a Dutch entrepreneur and Bitcoin enthusiast, has lived with an NFC chip embedded in each hand. One has data that he’s constantly overwriting; he can put his contact details in simply by having another person scan his hand with an NFC-enabled phone. But the other contains the encrypted private key to his wallet....."

If that was the case, the world would have to accept Bitcoin as a global currency, and also FORCE people to use it over any other currency and get the mark. That would still be quite a while off.

[unamis76]

It would be irrelevant if an evil entity was responsible for creating Bitcoin... I assume that if he was evil, he became the opposite while creating Bitcoin.

Independently of who or how was the person who created it, the idea is out, and will live on... So even Satoshi himself is quite irrelevant at this point (although I'd love to know who he is, obviously)

[coinableS]

Why would an "evil" entity create something that directly challenges "evil" entities (Banks)? Are the two evils battling each other? What if the banks made it and they pretend to be against it and then slowly accept it all the while they hold 1 million coins. That would be the crime of the century if that were the case.

[gloug333]

I doubt Hitler/Stalin and most of the list could be alive when BTC was invented, even doubt computers were invented. Btw George Bosh is an idiot IMO rather than an evil mastermind, the word "mind" doesn't fit with him...

and why would that seriously matter? some people using BTC's for bad things would exist if it was invented by a good or a bad person.

[dothebeats]

Whoever this "evil" may be, I should thank him for giving an eye-opener to the things that are really happening around me and possibly saving me from another evil entity/ies (banks, financial institutions, and possibly the government). It wouldn't change a thing--at least for me--because I really like the idea of being your own bank, anonymous-like transactions, no authoritative control, and low processing fees.

[futureofbitcoin]

Man, the lack of common sense in this thread... Makes me more pessimistic everyday.

The POINT of the OP is to say if bitcoin was created by an evil entity... it isn't about whether the people in his examples are alive or not. Seriously, what's wrong with you people.

And the answer is, no, it wouldn't matter. The product is completely open source, anyone with enough knowledge can scrutinize it and see if there's anything hidden. Since there isn't, bitcoin itself isn't evil. It doesn't matter who created it, what's important is whether bitcoin itself is intrinsically "evil", and it isn't.

It's like for example, so many bitcoin supporters are idiots. But that doesn't make bitcoin stupid or only for stupid people.

[gadman2]

What if satoshi was made of cheese?

[Gimpeline]

Man, the lack of common sense in this thread... Makes me more pessimistic everyday.

The POINT of the OP is to say if bitcoin was created by an evil entity... it isn't about whether the people in his examples are alive or not. Seriously, what's wrong with you people.

And the answer is, no, it wouldn't matter. The product is completely open source, anyone with enough knowledge can scrutinize it and see if there's anything hidden. Since there isn't, bitcoin itself isn't evil. It doesn't matter who created it, what's important is whether bitcoin itself is intrinsically "evil", and it isn't.

It's like for example, so many bitcoin supporters are idiots. But that doesn't make bitcoin stupid or only for stupid people.

Agree.
Most of the dark age scientists like. f. eks Newton and Leonardo da Vinci were christian. It dosn't really matter if they belived in rubbish like that. Their theories were still brilliant. Same with bitcoin. The theory is sound. What the mind behind it believed dosn't matter

[Rishblitz]

It wouldn't be the first good thing created by a evil man.

[melody82]

I think, we need an explicit board only to discuss Satoshi.

Actually that is a great idea lol.  A subforum for all of this nonsense would reduce quite a lot of clutter.  But somehow I am a sucker for Satoshi threads.

If Satoshi was evil then I would not have gotten into bitcoins, but if I found out now then I would stay in.  At this point it would be too late for everyone to get out plus there is a lot of good coming from bitcoins.  Just because the creator was evil does not have to define all of cryptos.  

[Falconer]

My personal belief is Bitcoin by itself is good. Keep that in mind.

Did you know that Bitcoin may be predicted in the bible? Some Christians may believe Bitcoin to lead to the mark of the beast:

Revelation 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

There is a man who injected himself so he can walk around with his wallet inside his hands:

http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11/man-has-nfc-chips-injected-into-his-hands-to-store-cold-bitcoin-wallet/

"....For the last 10 days, Martijn Wismeijer, a Dutch entrepreneur and Bitcoin enthusiast, has lived with an NFC chip embedded in each hand. One has data that he’s constantly overwriting; he can put his contact details in simply by having another person scan his hand with an NFC-enabled phone. But the other contains the encrypted private key to his wallet....."

If that was the case, the world would have to accept Bitcoin as a global currency, and also FORCE people to use it over any other currency and get the mark. That would still be quite a while off.

I'm so interested with this reply, and never imagined about that before. But I'm not sure to believe the thing that was told in Rev 16 is bitcoin. And so I can't find the 666 number in bitcoin.

[anderson00673]

I think it is incredibly unlikely that Satoshi is someone famous or someone that we have heard of before.  In fact I am leaning towards the "group of people" theory at this point.

[Jakez]

Whoever behind this, It does something good. So i support and use without worrying about the one who created it.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

My personal belief is Bitcoin by itself is good. Keep that in mind.

Did you know that Bitcoin may be predicted in the bible? Some Christians may believe Bitcoin to lead to the mark of the beast:

Revelation 16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

There is a man who injected himself so he can walk around with his wallet inside his hands:

http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11/man-has-nfc-chips-injected-into-his-hands-to-store-cold-bitcoin-wallet/

"....For the last 10 days, Martijn Wismeijer, a Dutch entrepreneur and Bitcoin enthusiast, has lived with an NFC chip embedded in each hand. One has data that he’s constantly overwriting; he can put his contact details in simply by having another person scan his hand with an NFC-enabled phone. But the other contains the encrypted private key to his wallet....."

If that was the case, the world would have to accept Bitcoin as a global currency, and also FORCE people to use it over any other currency and get the mark. That would still be quite a while off.

I'm so interested with this reply, and never imagined about that before. But I'm not sure to believe the thing that was told in Rev 16 is bitcoin. And so I can't find the 666 number in bitcoin.

This is the theory:

The number is the mark of the beast. And really, the idea is someone (the antichrist or beast) will require people to have this mark, in this theory, the mark will be your private key, in the form of something in your hand, as seen above in the picture.

The beast is seen by it's number 666, not the mark. Bitcoin would be a tool, the private key in hand would be the mark, not the actual problem. Except you shouldn't have the mark on your body. Using private keys not forced on your body would be ok, in this instance, I believe. There is nothing wrong with money. Bitcoin would not be considered evil.

It's just that it would be the tool, used to unite the world (the deceiver will come to unite the world together like New World Order, on the other hand Jesus will be coming to divide the believers from the evil anti-christ and anti-christ followers, the deceived).

It's a sign to find out who the beast is. Whoever would require people to use the mark on their body to sell or buy (and there would presumably be no goods for sale, without the use of the mark to buy, leading to black markets where you can buy without actually having the mark).

If you believe this, it's easy to believe Bitcoin will become huge. It would only start to be a problem if people were forced to be associated with their private keys into their bodies.

Edit: It may be that the mark when put into the body, will be combined with something else, like multisig addresses, where the other part needed to be used to withdraw funds will be the name of the beast or the number of the beast.

[manselr]

Charles Manson is too insane after so many years of being in jail (he came in half insane, now fully). He's too busy banging his young gf too.
I think Gmaxwell and Gavin have way higher chances at being Satoshi than any of the wild guesses of this nature.

[Malin Keshar]

This is called ad hominem argument, saying some argument or theory or theorem or whatever is bad or false because the creator is bad or mad.

Bitcoin is math, and as math it must be judged by itself, and has nothing to do with whoever created it

[QuestionAuthority]

I think Satoshi is still an active member of this forum and just changed his name. That means I'd still use Bitcoin even if Satoshi was a scammer or a lunatic because you're all scammers and lunatics. I say that with lots of love though. lol