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September 10, 2012, 10:08:44 AM
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A corrupt society always punishes those that seek to improve it.

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September 10, 2012, 10:12:16 AM
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Perhaps the sincerity I read is entirely fake. I now emphatically think Matthew should seek some professional psychological help.
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Lol. Always the US' of A way! Want moral support and guidance? Go pay someone for it!

I say give the guy a break. People make mistakes, he underestimated people's stupidity, get over it.
Maybe the gamble-aholics who are baying for blood should take a look at themselves? If Matt is such a well-known prankster/troll/clown/whatever, what were you thinking engaging in a bet? Of course you were going to lose by not getting your free winnings.

I reckon MNW should stay if he wants to, the site feature of "scammer" tags is childish, and besides, if he's not here, who will educate the n00bs about the dangers of Nigerian scams?

Some things aren't Do It Yourself projects. Last I checked access to professional psychological help wasn't restricted to the "US' of A".



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September 10, 2012, 10:15:55 AM
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A corrupt society always punishes those that seek to improve it.

Hope you are not imply his most reaction action was an act seeking to improve "our" society?
Pretty sure he did it for his own entertainment and maybe even profit.
More recent logs of him talking about it prove at least the first part.
The second part is pretty much the nature of gambling, bets, hedging what ever you want to call it.

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September 10, 2012, 10:16:22 AM
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You'll operate under a new account and remain secretly involved in your businesses.

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We know from past experience that you are obv lying now, Matthew.
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September 10, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
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You'll operate under a new account and remain secretly involved in your businesses.

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We know from past experience that you are obv lying now, Matthew.

It's another joke. He'll keep trolling and scamming under different names.
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September 10, 2012, 10:30:37 AM
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A corrupt society always punishes those that seek to improve it.

Hope you are not imply his most reaction action was an act seeking to improve "our" society?
Pretty sure he did it for his own entertainment and maybe even profit.
More recent logs of him talking about it prove at least the first part.
The second part is pretty much the nature of gambling, bets, hedging what ever you want to call it.

Anyone who sets out to point out that the vague and interpretive nature of language, laws, agreements, rules and any other arbitrary/false authority is exactly that, arbitrary and false, is doing so in order to prove that we need to operate on a reality based society. Why invest so much time, effort, emotion and attention to frivolous things like money, games, politics, religion etc., when it ultimately hinders and cripples us rather than makes things better for everyone. We are so caught up in these myriad fantasies that we do not even notice when the very important and real systems and structures that support life are crumbling to ruin and are enduring irreparable harm.

Matt most likely feels bad because he has spent his life in a society that promotes and rewards adherence to arbitrary rules and false authority because that's all many of us have ever known. But for those that have learned that we can't rely on fantasies, meaningless words and empty promises then they have learned that it is time to pay attention to reality instead. And that is an improvement to our society that I wish was happening sooner and faster for everyone.

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September 10, 2012, 10:30:46 AM
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I for one was shocked to find a known internet troll chose not to pay nearly $1m in bets to strangers on the internet. There were no early warning signs you could have picked up on to make a risk assessment of the situation.

Real people have lost money on this because after originally losing money on a ponzi scheme they hedged against it by betting with a known troll stranger on the internet. These people are not immature like Matthew, they just know a good deal when they see one!

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September 10, 2012, 10:32:12 AM
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Perhaps the sincerity I read is entirely fake. I now emphatically think Matthew should seek some professional psychological help.
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Lol. Always the US' of A way! Want moral support and guidance? Go pay someone for it!

I say give the guy a break. People make mistakes, he underestimated people's stupidity, get over it.
Maybe the gamble-aholics who are baying for blood should take a look at themselves? If Matt is such a well-known prankster/troll/clown/whatever, what were you thinking engaging in a bet? Of course you were going to lose by not getting your free winnings.

I reckon MNW should stay if he wants to, the site feature of "scammer" tags is childish, and besides, if he's not here, who will educate the n00bs about the dangers of Nigerian scams?

Some things aren't Do It Yourself projects. Last I checked access to professional psychological help wasn't restricted to the "US' of A".

I know what he means though Americans are bent for it to the point were it makes the English cringe watching your TV or listening to you talk.
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September 10, 2012, 10:34:51 AM
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I for one was shocked to find a known internet troll chose not to pay nearly $1m in bets to strangers on the internet. There were no early warning signs you could have picked up on to make a risk assessment of the situation.

Real people have lost money on this because after originally losing money on a ponzi scheme they hedged against it by betting with a known troll stranger on the internet. These people are not immature like Matthew, they just know a good deal when they see one!



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September 10, 2012, 10:45:53 AM
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Perhaps the sincerity I read is entirely fake. I now emphatically think Matthew should seek some professional psychological help.
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Lol. Always the US' of A way! Want moral support and guidance? Go pay someone for it!

I say give the guy a break. People make mistakes, he underestimated people's stupidity, get over it.
Maybe the gamble-aholics who are baying for blood should take a look at themselves? If Matt is such a well-known prankster/troll/clown/whatever, what were you thinking engaging in a bet? Of course you were going to lose by not getting your free winnings.

I reckon MNW should stay if he wants to, the site feature of "scammer" tags is childish, and besides, if he's not here, who will educate the n00bs about the dangers of Nigerian scams?

Some things aren't Do It Yourself projects. Last I checked access to professional psychological help wasn't restricted to the "US' of A".

I know what he means though Americans are bent for it to the point were it makes the English cringe watching your TV or listening to you talk.
I feel like you're redirecting your anger toward rich people, and pointing it toward Americans.  Take a deep breath.

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September 10, 2012, 10:50:48 AM
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Perhaps the sincerity I read is entirely fake. I now emphatically think Matthew should seek some professional psychological help.
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Lol. Always the US' of A way! Want moral support and guidance? Go pay someone for it!

I say give the guy a break. People make mistakes, he underestimated people's stupidity, get over it.
Maybe the gamble-aholics who are baying for blood should take a look at themselves? If Matt is such a well-known prankster/troll/clown/whatever, what were you thinking engaging in a bet? Of course you were going to lose by not getting your free winnings.

I reckon MNW should stay if he wants to, the site feature of "scammer" tags is childish, and besides, if he's not here, who will educate the n00bs about the dangers of Nigerian scams?

Some things aren't Do It Yourself projects. Last I checked access to professional psychological help wasn't restricted to the "US' of A".

I know what he means though Americans are bent for it to the point were it makes the English cringe watching your TV or listening to you talk.
I feel like you're redirecting your anger toward rich people toward Americans.  Take a deep breath.

I heard America was like a third world country in many places these days, perhaps I'm just ignorant and listen to jelous gossip.
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September 10, 2012, 10:52:59 AM
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I for one was shocked to find a known internet troll chose not to pay nearly $1m in bets to strangers on the internet. There were no early warning signs you could have picked up on to make a risk assessment of the situation.

Real people have lost money on this because after originally losing money on a ponzi scheme they hedged against it by betting with a known troll stranger on the internet. These people are not immature like Matthew, they just know a good deal when they see one!

He wasn't that known as an internet troll though, at least not to many around here. He used his former position as cofounder and CEO in some rather high-profile Bitcoin initiatives to give an impression of trustworthiness. This is why this particular scam is no joking matter.

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September 10, 2012, 10:55:40 AM
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I for one was shocked to find a known internet troll chose not to pay nearly $1m in bets to strangers on the internet.

To be fair, when the bets started the maximum wasn't mentioned and I'd assumed he'd stop at a sensible amount - say 100btc.



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September 10, 2012, 11:05:23 AM
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Perhaps the sincerity I read is entirely fake. I now emphatically think Matthew should seek some professional psychological help.
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Lol. Always the US' of A way! Want moral support and guidance? Go pay someone for it!

I say give the guy a break. People make mistakes, he underestimated people's stupidity, get over it.
Maybe the gamble-aholics who are baying for blood should take a look at themselves? If Matt is such a well-known prankster/troll/clown/whatever, what were you thinking engaging in a bet? Of course you were going to lose by not getting your free winnings.

I reckon MNW should stay if he wants to, the site feature of "scammer" tags is childish, and besides, if he's not here, who will educate the n00bs about the dangers of Nigerian scams?

Some things aren't Do It Yourself projects. Last I checked access to professional psychological help wasn't restricted to the "US' of A".

I know what he means though Americans are bent for it to the point were it makes the English cringe watching your TV or listening to you talk.
I feel like you're redirecting your anger toward rich people toward Americans.  Take a deep breath.

I heard America was like a third world country in many places these days, perhaps I'm just ignorant and listen to jelous gossip.
That's my point.
Do you think the poor Americans are bent for therapy?

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September 10, 2012, 11:22:38 AM
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This is why mods should ban ip and troll accounts.

Please for the love of god can the mods disable his account(s), file this in the bitcoin archives for posterity so everyone can try to move on.  Please.
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September 10, 2012, 11:29:40 AM
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This fiasco will blow over and cooler heads will prevail. Matt will find green pastures in the Bitcoin realm when he learns that discretion is the better part of valor. Now can we end these threads and start paying more attention to Atlas again?

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September 10, 2012, 11:31:34 AM
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Also to the matter of sincerity, I find it interesting he chose to title this thread "Response" which he seems to have been compelled to make by others, as apposed to "An Apology" which would seem more appropriate. 
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September 10, 2012, 11:35:16 AM
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Matthew,

As many disagreements as I may have had with you.

This only saddens me Sad.

This all could have easily been prevented on so many levels..

All I can say is, I hope you learned something...

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September 10, 2012, 11:37:43 AM
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Perhaps the sincerity I read is entirely fake. I now emphatically think Matthew should seek some professional psychological help.
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Lol. Always the US' of A way! Want moral support and guidance? Go pay someone for it!

I say give the guy a break. People make mistakes, he underestimated people's stupidity, get over it.
Maybe the gamble-aholics who are baying for blood should take a look at themselves? If Matt is such a well-known prankster/troll/clown/whatever, what were you thinking engaging in a bet? Of course you were going to lose by not getting your free winnings.

I reckon MNW should stay if he wants to, the site feature of "scammer" tags is childish, and besides, if he's not here, who will educate the n00bs about the dangers of Nigerian scams?

Some things aren't Do It Yourself projects. Last I checked access to professional psychological help wasn't restricted to the "US' of A".

I know what he means though Americans are bent for it to the point were it makes the English cringe watching your TV or listening to you talk.
I feel like you're redirecting your anger toward rich people toward Americans.  Take a deep breath.

I heard America was like a third world country in many places these days, perhaps I'm just ignorant and listen to jelous gossip.
That's my point.
Do you think the poor Americans are bent for therapy?

I can only comment from Americans I've met and what I've seen on TV, I'm sure there's two very different ends to the spectrum but It's certainly portrayed on TV like that plus American TV seems to be full of psychobabble.

This is a bit of an off topic rant so I'll keep it short but some examples: The newsroom a new HBO series (I switched off because of it), Breaking Bad, an assortment of trash day time TV such as Doctor Phil etc and on the same note isn't Oprah Winfrey basically a TV therapist and one of Americas most powerful and financially successful women?
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Perhaps the sincerity I read is entirely fake. I now emphatically think Matthew should seek some professional psych ological iatric help.


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