An apology...

[CIYAM]

A few days ago I was a trusted forum member and treasurer but after getting frustrated by what I considered to be a lack of moderation (to do with some nasty posts being made about my wife that were clearly off-topic and offensive) I pulled a stupid "stunt" by making a topic about losing control of the forum's BTC that I was holding (50 BTC) if the offensive posts were not removed.

I didn't realise that the stunt would "backfire" so badly on me, however, I did lock the topic when I came to my senses and have since returned the 50 BTC to the forum (this can be attested to by theymos).

The funds in question were actually never at risk as my offline PC actually doesn't even contain any data (as I use a bootable USB OS to access my offline funds) so the destruction of said PC wouldn't matter at all (and also I do have GPG encrypted backups of the private keys in case of USB device failure).

Admittedly this was a very stupid mistake (and having returned the funds to the forum it cannot happen again) and I hope the moderators who have given me negative trust might consider removing it as I've never even come close to being a part of any sort of scam or deception on this forum before.

As the topic in question was created in Meta I have created this topic in Meta also (but mods are welcome to move it anywhere else if they so see fit).

I am human, I love my wife and I made a very stupid mistake.

I am sorry.

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[theymos]

I have indeed received the 50 BTC.

I accept your apology, and I don't have any negative feelings toward you, though your actions here were very unprofessional. Probably it will take quite some time before people can look back and view this just a temporary lapse in judgement that was quickly resolved.

It seems that those two posts you were complaining about were deleted by a moderator (in response to your reports) before he even saw your thread. We wouldn't have changed/violated forum policy as a result of this issue.

[Quickseller]

In life, more often then not, you probably are not going to get your way, that is simply the way that life works.

My advice to you is that when you don't get your way to not threaten to do things like leave the community, try to impose ridiculous fines/fees on people you do not have the authority to impose such fines over, threaten to stop adhering to your responsibilities/threaten to quit your job, or threaten to withhold money that you are holding for other people. If my memory serves me right, you have done all of the above when you were not getting your way in how the forum is managed, primarily in regards to paid signatures (I may be mistaken on some of these).

Instead of doing the above, if you are not getting what you want, then make a strong argument as to why your way is the right way. If you do this, then the number of times you get your way will increase, although you will still not get your way a lot, and that is okay. If you need help making a strong argument, then ask someone who agrees with your general point of view and/or someone who you can see is good at making strong arguments. If you ever need help articulating a strong argument, then shoot me a PM, and I will do what I can to help (even though there is a good chance I will not agree with your viewpoint, I will still try to help), I am sure that a lot of others will be willing to do the same, especially if you feel strongly about something.

If you do the above, then you will gain the respect of others, regardless if you share common viewpoints. If you don't then you will lose the respect of others, even if your viewpoint is shared.

I know this advice may come off as somewhat harsh and critical of you, however I believe that following it will overall help you in life.

Also it appears that your treasurer contract/agreement is here, which lists the treasurer address to be https://blockchain.info/address/1BuANiueZAiNashSCfGV5Gmj9P8ReG1D8N, however 50 BTC are still showing as being unspent from that address. Did you spend the 50 BTC to theymos from another address? It looks like theymos has confirmed the receipt of the 50 BTC from you

edit: I also hope you understand that people are going to write offensive things on the internet, and the people are going to troll you on the internet. This is a simple fact about people on the internet. The fact that someone is trolling you is going to say a lot more about the person doing the trolling then it will say about you (or your family)

[qwk]

I am human, I love my wife and I made a very stupid mistake.

When I read your original story about your wife holding the forum's coins hostage, I never understood that as a threat.
I thought it was a hilarious way of complaining.
And anyone with a wife/girlfriend/significant other could probably very much relate to the story

That it backfired so badly is really sad, but not totally unexpected, though.
I hope the guys will accept your apology.

[erikalui]

Honestly, I don't think what you asked for was wrong but the fact that you threatened the forum was wrong. I would also support the fact that your trust should be removed/changed to neutral as you have refunded the money and now you hold no bitcoins on behalf of the forum.

The forum doesn't moderate scams nor helps members here to feel secure. There is so much freedom of speech here that whether it's your wife/mother/father/or yourself being abused, nobody is interested and because of this, the forum only will suffer as nobody would like to visit a place where they might get abused for sharing their opinion. This is not a FB/Twitter where there is no control over the language people use but this is a discussion forum. If there aren't any civilized people/educated people whom we can communicate with, there is no use of even discussing anything here.

Your frustration was justified as when anything wrong happens to us, we obviously react and that was your reaction which was addressed. I hope that now the forum does look into the posts people make here and moderate it. We need a peaceful place to talk and interact about bitcoins rather than people getting personal with us.

[sdmathis]

You don't know me, but as I have been around for a little while, I feel that know you somewhat. I've found your posts to be insightful and valuable. This unfortunate incident, however, did hurt my respect for you.

Most people in the position that you placed yourself in would have left the forum, and we would never hear from them again. They would simply be a sour memory. You, on the other hand, didn't do that. You stood up like a man, admitted that you were wrong, and apologized. That couldn't have been easy. Your apology is a great start in the difficult task of rebuilding the communities trust and respect. In other words, the incident lost you respect but your apology gained some of it back. As a community member, I accept your apology and hold no hard feelings toward you.

[monbux]

I saw that post and thought you were just drunk.  I think people on the forum would accept your apology, but I doubt you should be trusted with anyone else's funds again, especially the forum's.

[DiamondCardz]

I saw that post and thought you were just drunk.  I think people on the forum would accept your apology, but I doubt you should be trusted with anyone else's funds again, especially the forums.

Yeah. It's unfortunate that this happened, and it's good to see that CIYAM has apologised, but I'm still going to leave a neutral on him just as a note of what happened. Hopefully CIYAM will just recognize this as more of a painful life lesson.

[BG4]

I figured the story of 50 coins on an offline pc ....where the only copy of the keys ...was total BS....The wife stealing the off line PC ...on the other hand...  was plausable..... One time, my wife threatened to unplug 2500 watts of miining gear because of a TV remote control battle.....

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I have no idea what this incident was about, but it sounds like you got mad about some trolling and acted like a baby.  However, I applaud you for apologizing.  I work in a drug treatment center and see so much inflated ego and see so many people who would never think of making amends, so props to you for that.  The internet is a frustrating place, but learn from your mistake here. 

[jacktheking]

One mistake worth more than a hundred of good things you done. Now, you already know your mistake and.. Dont do that again. It will take a long time before people forgot about this mistake. It will take a even longer time to build up your reputation again. Next time, think before you post something on the internet. Especially if it concerned money such as Bitcoin.

[tidus1097]

Glad you apologized. I was sad to see this story ever be in here. However glad nobody's funds were lost. I'm sure a great lesson has been learned from this and we can all move on.

[RoadStress]

Admittedly this was a very stupid mistake (and having returned the funds to the forum it cannot happen again) and I hope the moderators who have given me negative trust might consider removing it as I've never even come close to being a part of any sort of scam or deception on this forum before.

I am human, I love my wife and I made a very stupid mistake.

I am sorry.

Mistakes like this should be punished no matter how sorry you are and removing the negative trust just because you are sorry is a very stupid thing to do. If you want people to trust you in the future they must know about your stupid mistakes from the past. Next time think before acting!

[BitcoinEXpress]

@CIYAM


Your story was obvious blatant bullshit. I'm not sure why you thought anyone would believe that.

Quit pretending it was just a "minor" lapse.

You wanted the benefit of blackmailing the forum without accepting the consequences.

Make no mistake, holding the forum's BTC as hostage is an attack on the forum.

Theymos is being way too generous in allowing you to remain.

Just my opinion.


~BCX~

[TrianglePythagoras]

If this was another user, I bet you wouldn't be so lenient towards him.

[hilariousandco]

If this was another user, I bet you wouldn't be so lenient towards him.

Lenient in what way? Scammers aren't banned and he didn't scam in the end, but the appropriate feedback is still there and that's likely all that would have happened with any one else.

[mashcom]

You indeed deserved a negative trust.

[shorena]

You indeed deserved a negative trust.

So you think we should remove it? Im still ponding whether I should or not, maybe you can help me with some arguments as to why I should remove the rating or change it to neutral. In the end no one was actually scammed. The forums founds have been returned and apparently have never been at risk, the posts have been edited regardless of the extortion attempt (I still wonder which rule exactly would allow the editing of insults though), CIYAM did apologize. With all that beeing said, Im still not certain it should be removed. There was an attempt to extort the forum and its staff and what sounded to me like a death threat.

[CIYAM]

I do not deny the fact that I made a very stupid post and upset many people from that.

I also do still have a lot to offer to the forum in regards to the work I am doing for CIYAM and the AT creation that is now being used to perform "100% decentralised Atomic Cross-Chain Transactions".

That work is unfortunately now going to be coloured by my stupid mistake which I think is unfortunate for many others that have worked on this project that in no way is related to "scamming" of any sort.

Whatever "punishment* the forum wants to impose upon me I will accept but I do think it is unfortunate if the whole AT project gets destroyed because of this.

I am no longer a forum treasurer so the problem that led to this cannot be repeated (as for sure the forum won't trust me again to be a treasurer) but for the sake of the common benefit of "decentralised development" I would hope that the negative trust could be changed to "neutral" (am not asking anyone to remove anything).

[CIYAM]

Also if it would be of any help then I will gladly "refrain from posting again" in any topic other than that of the CIYAM project topic (the work is more important to me than me being able to post elsewhere on this forum).

I recognise that I have a personal problem with IQ/EQ (I have a very high IQ but a very low EQ) that is perhaps not very common. I am not trying to make that as "an excuse" but simply as an "explanation" of my behaviour.