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August 21, 2015, 09:56:38 AM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? They let their miners choose. Nice, hope more mining pools adopt the same principle.
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meono
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August 21, 2015, 10:09:00 AM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? They let their miners choose. Nice, hope more mining pools adopt the same principle. Thats the way it should be. But except Luke-JR's pool
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chek2fire
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August 21, 2015, 10:24:57 AM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? after three years in slush pool i have drop my mining machines from there. I dont want to be part in this BitcoinXT nonsense
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alani123 (OP)
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August 21, 2015, 11:21:02 AM |
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Time to fire up some more Core nodes at work. {After all, I own the company...} I have some idle equipment laying around doing nothing, so I might aswell use it for something good. This is getting absurd, and we need to support the network that puts the food on the table. I will use any and all resources to support Core, because I think they have the purest incentive to make a success out of this whole experiment. We cannot allow a small minority of people with hidden agendas to sabotage everything we have worked for years. Join me and fire up all that old equipment laying around gathering dust. Purest incentive? you tell me Developer | Employer | In favor of | Gavin Andresen | MIT | 8mb+ | Mike Hearn | Google, now Vinumeris | 8mb+ | Meni Rosenfeld | Israeli Bitcoin Association, Bitcoil | tentative 8mb+ | Jeff Garzik | Bitpay, now Dunvegan Space Systems, Inc. | 2mb+ | Peter Todd | Viacoin et al. | 1mb | Luke-JR | Subcontracted by Blockstream | 1mb | Adam Back | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Matt Corallo | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Gmaxwell | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Peter Wuille | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Mark Friedenbach(Maaku7) | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | laanwj | MIT | 1mb |
And i agree, we cant let a small minority of ppl to decide the future of bitcoin. Only bitcoin , the network itself, can decide its future. Nice table but 8Mb support isn't the same as XT (BIT101). More miners support 8Mb blocks than BIP101. See here: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/pools
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meono
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August 21, 2015, 11:23:44 AM |
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Time to fire up some more Core nodes at work. {After all, I own the company...} I have some idle equipment laying around doing nothing, so I might aswell use it for something good. This is getting absurd, and we need to support the network that puts the food on the table. I will use any and all resources to support Core, because I think they have the purest incentive to make a success out of this whole experiment. We cannot allow a small minority of people with hidden agendas to sabotage everything we have worked for years. Join me and fire up all that old equipment laying around gathering dust. Purest incentive? you tell me Developer | Employer | In favor of | Gavin Andresen | MIT | 8mb+ | Mike Hearn | Google, now Vinumeris | 8mb+ | Meni Rosenfeld | Israeli Bitcoin Association, Bitcoil | tentative 8mb+ | Jeff Garzik | Bitpay, now Dunvegan Space Systems, Inc. | 2mb+ | Peter Todd | Viacoin et al. | 1mb | Luke-JR | Subcontracted by Blockstream | 1mb | Adam Back | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Matt Corallo | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Gmaxwell | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Peter Wuille | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | Mark Friedenbach(Maaku7) | Blockstream Co-Founder | 1mb | laanwj | MIT | 1mb |
And i agree, we cant let a small minority of ppl to decide the future of bitcoin. Only bitcoin , the network itself, can decide its future. Nice table but 8Mb support isn't the same as XT (BIT101). More miners support 8Mb blocks than BIP101. See here: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/poolsBut only BIP101 actually proposes the increase to 8mb blocks. You can go back and forth all day with this, and if you think there will be a BIP that propose 8mb blocks, you're gonna wait until eternity. In summary, support 8mb blocks now means BIP101. And BitcoinXT is just a subset of BIP101 wallets.
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pedrog
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August 21, 2015, 12:47:53 PM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? after three years in slush pool i have drop my mining machines from there. I dont want to be part in this BitcoinXT nonsense Because choices are bad!
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chek2fire
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August 21, 2015, 12:59:56 PM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? after three years in slush pool i have drop my mining machines from there. I dont want to be part in this BitcoinXT nonsense Because choices are bad! no because we are in a middle of a political reform of bitcoin. I am not accept to take part in this and to break the freedom of cryptocurrencies in favor of the banks.
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pedrog
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August 21, 2015, 01:02:42 PM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? after three years in slush pool i have drop my mining machines from there. I dont want to be part in this BitcoinXT nonsense Because choices are bad! no because we are in a middle of a political reform of bitcoin. I am not accept to take part in this and to break the freedom of cryptocurrencies in favor of the banks. But you're taking a part, you chose Blockstream Core instead of Gavincoin and you think if a pool gives that choice to its users that's a bad thing, because people should not be able to have choices...
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August 21, 2015, 01:05:39 PM |
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They are mining both versions, are the miners the ones who choose which version to mine? after three years in slush pool i have drop my mining machines from there. I dont want to be part in this BitcoinXT nonsense Because choices are bad! no because we are in a middle of a political reform of bitcoin. I am not accept to take part in this and to break the freedom of cryptocurrencies in favor of the banks. But you're taking a part, you chose Blockstream Core instead of Gavincoin and you think if a pool gives that choice to its users that's a bad thing, because people should not be able to have choices... i respect your opinion but i dont think is right. Take a moment to read what is Mike Hearn and what he believe about bitcoin.
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August 21, 2015, 02:10:37 PM |
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i respect your opinion but i dont think is right. Take a moment to read what is Mike Hearn and what he believe about bitcoin.
I've been following Mike since I discovered bitcoin, what are you talking about?
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August 21, 2015, 02:52:54 PM |
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give me one good reason why we must give such power to only one person to rule the code and fork it whatever he think is "good". If he want such a power and if he think that his opinion is above all of others then he must create an altcoin asap. For the Mike hearn you can read this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333824.0
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August 23, 2015, 02:06:31 AM |
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Just been an explosion. Now the nodes are nearly 1100.
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August 23, 2015, 02:09:18 AM |
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we all can see that this movement is organized not from the people but from group that really have to much money to spent. You cant gain 300 nodes in some hours only from the hype. Guys wake up! we are in a middle from a organized attack to bitcoin
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August 23, 2015, 02:19:13 AM |
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Just been an explosion. Now the nodes are nearly 1100.
That was just me, spinning up more NotXT and Pseudo nodes. Thanks to Amazon's EC2 (+ VPNs), we can deploy unlimited numbers of FakeXT nodes with the click of a mouse!
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August 23, 2015, 02:19:28 AM |
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But there is something I do not understand very well Why choose between mining XT and core? It is not that XT will preserve the coins in core after forking? I mean, to mine XT or core is exactly the same right now isn't it?
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August 23, 2015, 02:34:16 AM |
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Just been an explosion. Now the nodes are nearly 1100.
That was just me, spinning up more NotXT and Pseudo nodes. Thanks to Amazon's EC2 (+ VPNs), we can deploy unlimited numbers of FakeXT nodes with the click of a mouse! Nodes are not very relevant anyway are they? If XT had 10 000 nodes right now but 0 miners were using that version it would be useless. It's the % of miners running that version that count, correct me if m wrong
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August 23, 2015, 02:34:31 AM |
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But there is something I do not understand very well Why choose between mining XT and core? It is not that XT will preserve the coins in core after forking? I mean, to mine XT or core is exactly the same right now isn't it? Yes they're both on the same chain now. But having bitcoinXT ready incase large bitcoin services like exchange and miners need to avoid the blocksize limit issue due to natural growth or spam attacks
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August 23, 2015, 02:56:18 AM |
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All sides of the debate acknowledge that Bitcoin will ultimately need additional scaling solutions built on top of the protocol layer, and possibly a revision of the funding structure to reward miners. Bitcoin is still an experimental work-in-progress, with no clear-cut solutions.
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August 23, 2015, 06:33:13 AM |
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