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October 08, 2012, 12:37:20 PM
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time is up.  Cheesy

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October 08, 2012, 01:14:08 PM
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ngzhang,
I'm unclear on what I'm supposed to do if I own Icarus now and plan on converting/upgrading/redeeming them for new Icarus in the future? Just sit and wait? I did not get in on the preorder and I won't be able to come up with the extra cash till January at the earliest. Do we have to register our present Icarus with you or should we not worry about it at this time?
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October 08, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
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Well,I only win that "lottery" if my post # in the thread comes up.Which is #15 out of 51 posts.

BTW,I didn't win  Sad

Congrats Tinua,on your win,you lucky dog you  Cool

Thanks unacceptable.
Don't worry, this week it's your turn  Grin
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October 08, 2012, 05:22:56 PM
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I hope this is my week Smiley
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October 08, 2012, 05:34:21 PM
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ngzhang,
I'm unclear on what I'm supposed to do if I own Icarus now and plan on converting/upgrading/redeeming them for new Icarus in the future? Just sit and wait? I did not get in on the preorder and I won't be able to come up with the extra cash till January at the earliest. Do we have to register our present Icarus with you or should we not worry about it at this time?

we will draft a trade-in detail later. i think no need to worry about it now.
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October 09, 2012, 07:03:14 AM
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ngzhang,
I'm unclear on what I'm supposed to do if I own Icarus now and plan on converting/upgrading/redeeming them for new Icarus in the future? Just sit and wait? I did not get in on the preorder and I won't be able to come up with the extra cash till January at the earliest. Do we have to register our present Icarus with you or should we not worry about it at this time?

we will draft a trade-in detail later. i think no need to worry about it now.

I hope that you will allow people to send in multiple Icarus boards and trade them in for an Avalon rig otherwise those Icarus boards are going to be expensive paperweights once ASIC miners hit the blockchain. Granted one can perhaps sell them FPGA developers but realistically they aren't as suitable for that purpose than some of the other boards out there due to the lack of massive I/O options.

*shrug* I dunno, I guess we'll have to wait for you to draft your trade-in detail later then.

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October 09, 2012, 08:10:35 AM
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ngzhang,
I'm unclear on what I'm supposed to do if I own Icarus now and plan on converting/upgrading/redeeming them for new Icarus in the future? Just sit and wait? I did not get in on the preorder and I won't be able to come up with the extra cash till January at the earliest. Do we have to register our present Icarus with you or should we not worry about it at this time?

we will draft a trade-in detail later. i think no need to worry about it now.

I hope that you will allow people to send in multiple Icarus boards and trade them in for an Avalon rig otherwise those Icarus boards are going to be expensive paperweights once ASIC miners hit the blockchain. Granted one can perhaps sell them FPGA developers but realistically they aren't as suitable for that purpose than some of the other boards out there due to the lack of massive I/O options.

*shrug* I dunno, I guess we'll have to wait for you to draft your trade-in detail later then.

Hadn't thought about it, but it seems it's limited to one per board according to the OP:

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Trade-in projct:

any icarus or lancelot user can trade-in their icarus or Lancelot mining board for 300USD (icarus) or 400USD (lancelot). every new 60G mining machine can only trade-in one old mining board. this project will start after mass-production.

I think this is a mistake. Nzgang, if you only allow for each Icarus/Lancelot to be traded in 1-to-1 you will lose goodwill and most likely it will only lead to a secondary market where most FPGAs are sold to your ASIC customers anyway.

Either way they will be traded in.
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October 09, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
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I won't be ordering anything without credit card. Pre-ordering is a pretty crappy practice. Too bad everyone is doing it. I would tolerate it, if it was 30days max before release. When it's 3+ months your just stealing peoples money for a free loan. That's directed at everyone not just avalon. Good luck, and hope things work out.

What if pre-orders were to get a discount? Would that be a 'free loan'?

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You mean the illusion of a discount, right? I don't see how it's a discount when it goes down to everyone's normal prices for the same performance. Clever marketing scheme while it lasted though. I'd like to see how many really sell if the price does go up to 2k for 60GH/s. I'm sure the competitors won't mind.  Cheesy
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October 09, 2012, 03:43:48 PM
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@ ngzhang

How do I go about confirming my order and Wire Transfer?

I wasn't able to deposit because of weekend + a monday holiday for the banks. (A Long Weekend)
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October 09, 2012, 10:19:22 PM
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What if pre-orders were to get a discount? Would that be a 'free loan'?

When you're getting nothing for 3+ months it's always gonna be a free loan. There is no reason for preorders to exist past 30days. If i'm gonna be funding your R+D and the purchase of the materials then i better get some profit sharing or ownership stake. There is nothing wrong with a free loan. I just hope people understand that's what it is.
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October 10, 2012, 03:32:30 PM
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@ ngzhang.
What about the future performance of Avalon? Bfl has published that they reach with only 50% CPU power the 60Gh/s. Will Avalon also have such reserve capacity for high overclock later?

The other is:
I paid last week the gears with express transfer. But i have still Pending Wire status Huh
Is that normal?
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October 10, 2012, 03:44:10 PM
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@ ngzhang.
What about the future performance of Avalon? Bfl has published that they reach with only 50% CPU power the 60Gh/s. Will Avalon also have such reserve capacity for high overclock later?

The other is:
I paid last week the gears with express transfer. But i have still Pending Wire status Huh
Is that normal?

To all wire transfer customers:

please inquiry if the payment state is not changed after you do the wire for a long time:

yifu.guo@avalon-asic.com

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October 11, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
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Hello,
I had done an order of Avalon-ASIC last week, I choosed Bitcoin paid method and I have paid this week but the status of the order is "Pending Bitcoin".
Can you clear the situation of my order?
(The order number is #200000528)
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October 11, 2012, 09:12:50 PM
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Hello,
I had done an order of Avalon-ASIC last week, I choosed Bitcoin paid method and I have paid this week but the status of the order is "Pending Bitcoin".
Can you clear the situation of my order?
(The order number is #200000528)

 #200000528 .... hmm more then 300 pre-orders? i don't know, maybe there are 300 pre-orders, just strange order number , and it is not a big problem if it are a few more sold, would be interesting to know how much exactly , to know the amount of ghash added to the network, but that is all just speculation anyhow.. 
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October 11, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
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Hello,
I had done an order of Avalon-ASIC last week, I choosed Bitcoin paid method and I have paid this week but the status of the order is "Pending Bitcoin".
Can you clear the situation of my order?
(The order number is #200000528)

 #200000528 .... hmm more then 300 pre-orders? i don't know, maybe there are 300 pre-orders, just strange order number , and it is not a big problem if it are a few more sold, would be interesting to know how much exactly , to know the amount of ghash added to the network, but that is all just speculation anyhow.. 

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October 12, 2012, 12:23:56 AM
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I'm 200000300 and I ordered/paid inbetween waves. Probably a lot of cancels and errors and such. Especially since the server crashed during the first sale.
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October 12, 2012, 08:05:26 AM
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Hello,
I had done an order of Avalon-ASIC last week, I choosed Bitcoin paid method and I have paid this week but the status of the order is "Pending Bitcoin".
Can you clear the situation of my order?
(The order number is #200000528)

 #200000528 .... hmm more then 300 pre-orders? i don't know, maybe there are 300 pre-orders, just strange order number , and it is not a big problem if it are a few more sold, would be interesting to know how much exactly , to know the amount of ghash added to the network, but that is all just speculation anyhow.. 

no, the order # is random, and there are many canceliations in the queue.

we maybe accept new order in the future (with another delivery time), but this batch is only 300.
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October 13, 2012, 09:02:48 AM
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Yifu Guo has been very helpful with my orders, and responds to emails quickly! Just want to put in a good word. I'm looking forward to receiving some of the first shipment of Avalons in a few months.

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October 13, 2012, 11:54:48 AM
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Yifu Guo has been very helpful with my orders, and responds to emails quickly! Just want to put in a good word. I'm looking forward to receiving some of the first shipment of Avalons in a few months.
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