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December 30, 2015, 11:42:09 PM
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Seeing this, it seems bitcoin already went mainstream.

Amazing how they did this. Which one is the next country to follow?

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January 03, 2016, 11:53:56 AM
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They are smart enough to get into Bitcoin. That's a good thing.
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January 04, 2016, 10:40:21 PM
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Seeing this, it seems bitcoin already went mainstream.

Amazing how they did this. Which one is the next country to follow?

The map looks beautiful, the same kind of beauty bitcoin posses.
Let's see which country will be next in this kind of adoption by mechants, local merchants.
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January 04, 2016, 11:08:32 PM
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Bitcoin is growing up in Brazil!


Visit: http://www.foxbit.com.br/mapa
150 stores?its amazing..and its spread in some city,do you think brazil is the most succesfull country in america who adopted bitcoin?
i also wondering which country which have most store accept bitcoin,because on my country,i dont think  there is store accept bitcoin Sad

But mate its 150 stores out of the 100,000 stores in Brazil.
This map is a bit misleading, makes you think Bitcoin is accepted in most Brazilian stores which is untrue.
We are still very early in the game I believe.   

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January 05, 2016, 03:48:59 AM
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They are smart enough to get into Bitcoin. That's a good thing.

Smart enough to not be so depending from mmf and other similar banks. 150 stores in one country is a lot, many don't have one (like mine) so congratulations to Brazil and i hope other countries will fallow.

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January 05, 2016, 06:48:17 AM
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Looks like Brazil is very ahead of the game.
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January 05, 2016, 12:43:03 PM
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Where I live, Australia, there are only like 10 stores that accept Bitcoin. Brazil looks like a good country to move to.

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January 05, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
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it is very unusual, it may be increased again after this post updated, there may be people almost all use bitcoin, so very many stores that use bitcoin as a means of transaction, may someday also at my place  Cheesy

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January 05, 2016, 09:10:47 PM
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it is very unusual, it may be increased again after this post updated, there may be people almost all use bitcoin, so very many stores that use bitcoin as a means of transaction, may someday also at my place  Cheesy

This post is already half a year hold.
I assume the amount of shops in brasil has bene doubled already. It's really unbelievable how they achieve this goal.

To me they are the no 1. bitcoin country in the world.
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January 05, 2016, 09:29:38 PM
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Those brazilian people know how to samba and how to get shops into bitcoin.
It wouldn't suprise me there is no country in the world which have such a huge bitcoin merchant base.
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January 06, 2016, 12:52:46 AM
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Brazilian people know economy and shopping sector and they understand quickly bitcoin , i hope they will grow up it and it will be more than 150 stores and i wish other country will do it too
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January 06, 2016, 01:49:38 AM
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Please, gimme a break....

The vast majority (~99%) of people here in Brazil don't even know what BTC is. This land is full of poor people. Hey, is this so hard to understand?

I mean... the inflation rate is extreme. U$1,00 = R$4,00 (honestly, it's more than that). Energy cost are very high (U$0.18 per KWh, so there's no mining farms here)... the average wage is very low (~U$200,00)... corruption is insane. The government kicks your balls so hard you can't even stand still, it's a question of survival.

The only trusted way to get BTC is Localbitcoins.com. But, here is the land of Credit Card... there's no way you can buy/sell/pay/exchange.

Pick any state you want, like the state I live (Paraná). It has almost the same size as Romania. Even in this "150 stores map" you got only three places to "negotiate"... one is the capital (Curitiba), the other one could be Londrina (with a average population of 600.000 citizens), the last (the position is weird) could be Maringá or Ponta Grossa... both of them has almost 400.000 habitants.

But take a look at some places like the state of Pará -- it has almost the same size as Germany. There's just one place (the capital Belém) with some sort of "store". Half of the country is so isolated and obscure than the surface of Saturn.

I don't know precisely, but I think there's just one ATM Machine (in São Paulo).

There's no big companies using BTC till this moment.

I mean, here in Brazil, BTC is extremely centralized. Sorry, but, this is not good news. I'm brazilian, I live here. The moment couldn't be worse. So, don't try to shut your eyes with a holed sieve.

Before anything, let's be realistic. Just to share a little with you guys:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-05/brazilian-real-volatility-surges-as-china-intervenes-in-selloff

http://www.reuters.com/article/latam-emergingmarkets-idUSL1N14J1EE20151230

http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-real-falls-sharply-against-dollar-1451922347


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January 06, 2016, 10:09:33 AM
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Please, gimme a break....


Imho it's a good start. You have talked about extremely high inflation, but bitcoin is also here to give an alternative to a lot of people that want to protect themselves from the real inflation. Is not just a payment processor. And for sure if you live in brazil you know how much smartphones are distribuited, also with the poorest social classes. The very big deal is the connectivity.

Now, afaik in paranà there is a top class connectivity, especially in the cities where you can get fiber to the home connectivity. But in the vast majority of brazil this is impossible, and there are many places where is really thought to just have a decent mobile connection. My hope is that SPV wallets will do the dirty work of providing a basic decentralization grade wallet without consuming too much resources (especially bandwith).

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January 06, 2016, 01:45:45 PM
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People have smartphones just to use Whatsapp... Brazil has a giant community in social networks.. but, c'mon... use other currency (like BTC) is far beyond this... some stores sells a smartphone by 6x, 10x, 12x in your credit card (with interest taxes of 13% monthly); this makes even the poorest get such device (even paying the double price of product in the final parcel). It's a question of "don't be outside of community", this is why even childs from 3 years and old people with 90 years got a smartphone... lotta people left food and bills in a second position just to participate in such social networks. But BTC is something that you have to use your brain to understand... Facebook and Whatsapp doesn't require this usage...

Unless things turns to an opposite state that actually are (like what happened in Paraguay, Argentina and now in Venezuela) nothing is gonna change, because government makes everything to cut your wings and hopes... but, elections for president and parliamentary will happen just in 2018 (and the chances of a return of president Lula or someone similar is huge), I think it's a precious time wasted. The Labour Party is supported by the communist party, the social democrats, etc. Politics here is a mess (is a salad). Here we got 35 parties and none of them cares with people, they're all got the same cores with a different cover... brazilians are good people indeed, but take a look at the whole world and see what a destruction that a political mess could give to good people... history proves it. What fucks everything here is, lack of education, lack of health care, high inflation rates (what I believe won't change so rapid) and high taxes -- this thing guides a country to disruption, because people don't have economic freedom. What would you think of a country that makes you work from 4 to 6 months only to pay annual taxes?


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January 06, 2016, 02:04:11 PM
Last edit: January 06, 2016, 02:19:04 PM by kanazawa
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Hey man, what makes you think this way? The majority of people don't even know how to use Microsoft Word, they ask somebody to configure their own smartphone, just to use social networks and make phone calls... Have you take a ride to Rio de Janeiro or São Paulo, or Brasilia, or Salvador, or Porto Alegre, or Recife? Take a look in the state of poverty that this places are...

How could people understand Bitcoin if they even know about their own money (currency)? People make loans (to buy TV's, refrigerator and 'Smartphones') and almost die to pay (if they pay, what I guarantee you it's not the usual behavior)... loan taxes here are the highest in the world... like a said, it's a question of survival.

It's fun to see a colorful country with "happy" people from an outside view, but come here and see in loco what daily reality is nobody wants... It's cool to party here and go back to EUA, NL, UK, etc... your money has 4, 5 times the values of Brazilian Real... that's cool hum?

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Man, I work in GVT (the biggest/fastest bandwidth provider in Brazil), even in Paraná (like you said) there's a minority of people using it, because the cost to expand cable connection is very huge... some cities, with 100.000 habitants don't have 10% of cable connections, they use radio, and as you may know, you take a optic fiber and make lot of radio "points" to share connections, but here the fastest fiber is 150mbps... divided this to 50, 100 or 150 houses and you got the common speed connection here. Lotta people (with study) don't even have a computer at home... they prefer cable TV and 3G connections in smartphones... just to see how chaotic situation are, in Londrina or Maringá, even 3G is very bad.

I've been in London, Amsterdam, Paris and Milano... it's so different to here that you wouldn't believe... only who lives here understand.


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January 06, 2016, 04:02:48 PM
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Man, I work in GVT (the biggest/fastest bandwidth provider in Brazil), even in Paraná (like you said) there's a minority of people using it, because the cost to expand cable connection is very huge... some cities, with 100.000 habitants don't have 10% of cable connections, they use radio, and as you may know, you take a optic fiber and make lot of radio "points" to share connections, but here the fastest fiber is 150mbps... divided this to 50, 100 or 150 houses and you got the common speed connection here. Lotta people (with study) don't even have a computer at home... they prefer cable TV and 3G connections in smartphones... just to see how chaotic situation are, in Londrina or Maringá, even 3G is very bad.

I've been in London, Amsterdam, Paris and Milano... it's so different to here that you wouldn't believe... only who lives here understand.

Seems that you have a deep knowledge about internet distribuition in brazil

This is a very good point, i especially liked this part:
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It's cool to party here and go back to EUA, NL, UK, etc... your money has 4, 5 times the values of Brazilian Real... that's cool hum?

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January 06, 2016, 04:42:05 PM
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yes, they dare to do the things that other countries do not do, I also want to buy something in the store that can be purchased with bitcoin, I think it looks cool in the community, I hope one of the stores it opened a branch in my area  Grin

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January 06, 2016, 06:41:15 PM
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yes, they dare to do the things that other countries do not do, I also want to buy something in the store that can be purchased with bitcoin, I think it looks cool in the community, I hope one of the stores it opened a branch in my area  Grin

That's unlikely, those shops coming to your country. But we should learn and see this as a motivation.

It's possible to get adoption from merchants as long if we are willing to spend time on it.
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January 06, 2016, 09:28:38 PM
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the key to success in Brazil (in my own view) is to escape from state claws; do everything to escape from them!

that's why, even with the difficulty to put in practice, I support totally the use of alternative sources of energy, because the electricity and consequently ISP is monopolized by the government, even the private sector eats in their hands (at least here). Even though much more expensive, I'm adept of that kinda practice just because I want to say "fuck you government of shit" --- sorry 'bout bad words.

As you may know, any practice is very dependant from the government (because it involves banks and regularization taxes). So, mining BTC (in my point of view) it's the only way to escape from the mentioned "claws" (even with expensive values). It's just "one step" to surpass. Then, the path becomes more easy for take the next and steps.

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January 06, 2016, 10:43:35 PM
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Wow this image is one of the best i have seen this year. Having so many shops accepting bitcoins makes me proud.
Very proud that we are part of something that is getting bigger and bigger every day.

This image alone is a prefect marketing tool for bitcoin. Seeing so much adoption is what we need.
If only more webshops would know bitcoin.
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