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October 23, 2015, 08:45:03 PM |
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God was not created by man How else would you know "Him" ? Of course you created him (her, them, it). .. the idea that man is the founder and guarantor of knowledge Not quite no - what I'm saying is that human knowledge (and belief) is founded by humans - this is a self evident truth, a tautology. It seems to me that your argument goes like this:
You can only know something that you created. No, not at all - I didn't create electricity, but I can know how it works, I can have knowledge of it. We have to be clear here. So the rest of your syllogism which is supposed to reflect my reasoning is flawed. You are mixing and confusing different categories of language. ....and in that case you can know something that your Creator has revealed. How would you know that the knowledge that you have gleaned (via empirical research) about the world is something that "your Creator has revealed" ? A part of him dwells within us.
Yes - Where Love is God is - you'll know that if you've read Tolstoy !!!
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October 23, 2015, 09:02:36 PM |
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God was not created by man How else would you know "Him" ? Of course you created him (her, them, it). .. the idea that man is the founder and guarantor of knowledge Not quite no - what I'm saying is that human knowledge (and belief) is founded by humans - this is a self evident truth, a tautology. OK, let me rephrase my understanding of your argument: Human knowledge is founded by humans. Knowledge of God is human knowledge. God is created by humans. I don't think it follows. If one has knowledge of God, then one has discovered it, not created it.
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October 23, 2015, 09:25:28 PM |
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God was not created by man How else would you know "Him" ? Of course you created him (her, them, it). .. the idea that man is the founder and guarantor of knowledge Not quite no - what I'm saying is that human knowledge (and belief) is founded by humans - this is a self evident truth, a tautology. Human knowledge is founded by humans. Knowledge of God is human knowledge. God is created by humans. OK - I'll go along with that if you like. The whole point is, is that you can't have knowledge of God - at least in an empirical sense. You can only ever have faith. My faith is in love. It works for me, in a practical way. As soon as I stop believing in love I become closer to death - and i suspect that that is the same for yourself, Beliathon and anyone else out there. It is in this sense that I believe that God is revealed to us - and I think that I can justifiably claim that the conception of God as espoused by Jesus Christ in the Gospel of St. John most closely/symmetrically mirrors my belief. Of course, there's no mileage in this idea of God for the power brokers - nothing to be made off the back of it, if you see what I mean. Its very real, tangible and (almost) verifiable - no profit in that.
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October 23, 2015, 10:37:08 PM |
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In an empirical sense, humanism is false, and since all atheists are humanists, all atheists are wrong. I know this line of reasoning is sound because I have taken the time to evaluate the evidence surrounding life after death; anyone else could do the same
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BADecker
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October 24, 2015, 02:32:12 AM |
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In an empirical sense, humanism is false, and since all atheists are humanists, all atheists are wrong. I know this line of reasoning is sound because I have taken the time to evaluate the evidence surrounding life after death; anyone else could do the same.
The problem with all evidence of life after death is, all the evidence can point at other things besides. Because of this, nobody knows that it is life after death that the evidence is supporting, or if it is something else. In addition, I added the period after the word "same" in your post, above. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Beliathon (OP)
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October 28, 2015, 05:30:25 PM |
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My name is Mary Magdalene and I am a survivor. God raped me and then told the court it was an immaculate conception. Being unscientific sexist bronze-age assholes, the court sided with him and I was refused the option to abort my rape-baby.
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October 28, 2015, 07:05:07 PM |
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My name is Mary Magdalene and I am a survivor. God raped me and then told the court it was an immaculate conception. Being unscientific sexist bronze-age assholes, the court sided with him and I was refused the option to abort my rape-baby.
The pyramids of Egypt and other countries were built thousands of years ago. Other great buildings and monuments of mankind were built in the distant past. Some of these buildings have blocks of stone in them weighing as much as a thousand tons. They were moved and set in place by the unscientific ancients. Do we have the ability to build such monuments and buildings today? Do we have the ability to move and place 1000 ton blocks of stone? Someone will answer that we have the technology to do it, thus we are at least as scientifically advanced as the ancients. Such thinking is wrong! Why? Because we don't have the economy to do it. We might have the scientific and engineering capability. But we can't do what the ancients did, because our economy wouldn't support the doing of it. The ancient peoples were scientifically advanced beyond us. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 30, 2015, 02:21:49 AM |
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And i Last heard there are now 7 genders recognize by the experts. 1. female 2. male 3. lesbians 4. gays 5. Male bisexual? 6. female bisexual? 7.? i dont know the other one
i dont know if those are even correct
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October 30, 2015, 01:51:32 PM |
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And i Last heard there are now 7 genders recognize by the experts. 1. female 2. male 3. lesbians 4. gays 5. Male bisexual? 6. female bisexual? 7.? i dont know the other one
i dont know if those are even correct
You're thinking about sexual orientation, not genders, and the other one is pansexual (will have sex with a transgender or anything else for that matter).
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Beliathon (OP)
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October 30, 2015, 09:32:30 PM |
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And i Last heard there are now 7 genders recognize by the experts.
Gender (social construction) and biological sex and sexuality are three different things hope this helps.
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December 24, 2015, 09:12:42 PM |
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Yep. The hour approaches. While we don't know absolutely exactly when... If you are going to start a business, do it soon. If you are going to start having children, don't expect that there is enough time left for them to grow up. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 25, 2015, 08:18:48 AM |
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don't expect that there is enough time left for them to grow up.
why does God have to come to you always and explain his future plans ? though he is not interested to answer the people who are in need and are in search of him.
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December 25, 2015, 12:29:36 PM |
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don't expect that there is enough time left for them to grow up.
why does God have to come to you always and explain his future plans ? Why do you think God has to do anything? He is the Big Boss. He doesn't have any strings attached that anybody can pull, except if he attaches them Himself, and offers some limited control to someone. though he is not interested to answer the people who are in need and are in search of him.
Why do you think that God isn't interested in answering people in need? He has sent me and others to answer you. But you don't want to accept the answer. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Beliathon (OP)
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December 26, 2015, 12:20:06 AM |
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Being gay is cool.
Church is boring.
Hail Satan
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December 26, 2015, 03:22:31 AM |
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Being gay is cool.
Church is boring.
Hail Satan
No hail in Hell. Too hot for that there. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Beliathon (OP)
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January 01, 2016, 08:47:37 AM |
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God is almost dead now.. just a few more gay sex orgies and goat sacrifices
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January 01, 2016, 11:10:28 AM |
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God gave blessing to the first people, ADam and Eve, to have dominion, to have children, to be together ad husband and wife- Gen 1:28 so it's obvious that God originally planned marriage, family life, children and also sex as natural part of human life. Because of fall and sin of our first ancestors, Adam and Eve, sex become dirty word but in original god's ideal sex and marriage life should be holy and sacred. How we spiritually reborn today? Through Holy spirit and Jesus, spiritual mother and father, isn't it? So, after spiritual rebirth what is next? What do you think?
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January 01, 2016, 02:07:28 PM |
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Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. Struggle nearing completion in most industrialized nations [sorry Russians] Phase 2. Destroy the myth of Homo Sapien monogamy and assert science in the realm of human sexuality. Pansexuality / polyamory explodes. Struggle ongoing in most industrialized nations Phase 3. Smash the myth [social construct] of gender and assert science in that realm. Struggle just began in industrialized nations Phase 4. Medical science cures all sexually transmitted infections/diseases. Orgies ensue all over the world. Probably a result of nanotech innovation. Phase 5. Merging of hardware and wetware, next phase of human evolution. Religion fully obsolete as mortality itself has been solved. Related reading (pics are links!):![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F6%2F6a%2FSex_at_Dawn_Ryan_Jetha_2010.jpg&t=665&c=z723L4_lKvxAUA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41V-zAQaZbL._SY344_BO1%2C204%2C203%2C200_.jpg&t=665&c=AvY96bZCgvTeCg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fd%2Fdd%2FDelusions_of_gender_cover.jpg&t=665&c=G5L4MumBeMNUqg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F51rg57YwZEL.jpg&t=665&c=-ZpsfexrM0984A) ----Sorry, final two books are paywalled for now!---- ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41C7yHBYPvL._SY344_BO1%2C204%2C203%2C200_.jpg&t=665&c=SrLPlXzXfH9xXw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F51XqhDCub4L.jpg&t=665&c=XcNXiOIQyzwxSg) How sex will kill GodMate, please stop with these non-sense things. Sex is something sacred and if we really start to practice like that we will evolve on a higher level of consciousness. Today people see the sex as an application who will help you to release from your urge. But is that right? Most of relationships and marriages are fall apart just because people don't know how to practice the sex. If you want to be with a girl and be sure that she will be your life-partner, then the first thing that you should do is to become a friend with her. Your girlfriend should your father and mother, brother or sister, best friend and everything! If she is ready to do that for your, then be sure that she is the one. Sex is the is the final chapter in the book of love were you will confirm your relationship!
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