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July 04, 2015, 08:31:53 PM |
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I think this is the right time for the bitcoin foundation to step in and offer more information support in Greece,
This is not a good move because the nature of BTC itself is pretty much unstable . You cant expect BTC foundation to go there and said everything is fine once you convert all your savings into BTC while in fact that putting saving in form of BTC is pretty much "unsafe" as well . "Unsafe" pretty much is viewed from the volatility issue though because there is no denying that the moment you put your saving into BTC then you would need to endure the fact that your savings could become half of what you put in a night . Once we stood up for this volatility issue then it will be of course a different story if there is some incident like this in the future
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July 04, 2015, 08:59:45 PM |
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It is unsure, yes, but I think that if bitcoin were to help greece, it would help both sides gain a bit of stability,
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July 04, 2015, 10:30:36 PM |
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Can Greece really save bitcoin?
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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July 04, 2015, 11:43:31 PM |
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I saw an interesting post on the Bitcoin subreddit recently. The OP was arguing that Bitcoin could not save the people of Greece, but could be used to support the merchants and sellers within the country. The idea is that us Bitcoin users worldwide should be making an attempt to purchase Greek goods with our Bitcoin, as the local currency is, obviously, falling apart. I think this is precisely the role that Bitcoin should be playing in Greece.
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July 04, 2015, 11:49:19 PM |
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I saw an interesting post on the Bitcoin subreddit recently. The OP was arguing that Bitcoin could not save the people of Greece, but could be used to support the merchants and sellers within the country. The idea is that us Bitcoin users worldwide should be making an attempt to purchase Greek goods with our Bitcoin, as the local currency is, obviously, falling apart. I think this is precisely the role that Bitcoin should be playing in Greece.
On that note... http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/07/03/spartan-route-buying-greek-exports-with-bitcoin/
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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July 05, 2015, 12:16:11 AM |
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Can Greece really save bitcoin?
Lol.. that is the question which should be asked. We are discussing about the probability that Greece will be saved by a currency, whose value has declined by 80% in the last 18 months. The Bitcoin adoption is going down considerably, and the number of people who use Bitcoin for their online shopping has also gone down steeply.
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July 05, 2015, 12:23:54 AM |
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Can Greece really save bitcoin?
Lol.. that is the question which should be asked. We are discussing about the probability that Greece will be saved by a currency, whose value has declined by 80% in the last 18 months. The Bitcoin adoption is going down considerably, and the number of people who use Bitcoin for their online shopping has also gone down steeply. I don't sell at a loss, which is why I'm not using BTC for online shopping. But... I'd like to see metrics on the last two points rather than just Overstock.com's SEC-EDGAR filings.
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July 05, 2015, 12:34:43 AM |
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Can Greece really save bitcoin?
Lol.. that is the question which should be asked. We are discussing about the probability that Greece will be saved by a currency, whose value has declined by 80% in the last 18 months. The Bitcoin adoption is going down considerably, and the number of people who use Bitcoin for their online shopping has also gone down steeply. Obviously I can't speak for the whole community, but I just spent 3~ BTC over at newegg.com a couple of weeks ago, and it seems that more opportunities to spend online are opening up every day, so I wouldn't argue that online shopping through Bitcoin is on the decline.
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July 05, 2015, 08:13:20 AM |
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Can Greece really save bitcoin?
Lol.. that is the question which should be asked. We are discussing about the probability that Greece will be saved by a currency, whose value has declined by 80% in the last 18 months. The Bitcoin adoption is going down considerably, and the number of people who use Bitcoin for their online shopping has also gone down steeply. Obviously I can't speak for the whole community, but I just spent 3~ BTC over at newegg.com a couple of weeks ago, and it seems that more opportunities to spend online are opening up every day, so I wouldn't argue that online shopping through Bitcoin is on the decline. I think online shopping is growing, however "offline" purchasing is still an issue. Since bitcoin is a digital asset buying things in the local shop will be problematic for a good while. Also, e.g. newegg.com is a cool site in the USA, but getting stuff to the EU from there is not easy.
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July 05, 2015, 08:44:21 AM |
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I have close to 200 craigslist ads saying "Bitcoin & cash accepted" and merchant apps ready to rock, but local bitcoiners don't want to pay for my stuff with BTC, only cash. They could even pay in advance of pickup, but nope.
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July 05, 2015, 08:54:36 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2015%2F07%2F05%2F08%2F2A3E7DA000000578-3149848-image-a-13_1436082369752.jpg&t=665&c=BPcMs5cSipjdTw) Just look at that face! Greece is on the verge of economic destruction and he's posing for cameras with a smile like he won the lottery. And how much does this referendum cost and who will pay for it ? They are supposed to lead the country, and not waste money to ask common people for answers they should provide themselves. The point that i'm trying to make here is that there's noone who can save Greece Not until people realize that they need to lock up their leaders, and start acting like a responsible adults. Bitcoin can help people make transactions under any environment, but it can't cure human stupidity, but just my opinion in the end.. cheers
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July 05, 2015, 10:16:17 AM |
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Can Greece really save bitcoin?
Lol.. that is the question which should be asked. We are discussing about the probability that Greece will be saved by a currency, whose value has declined by 80% in the last 18 months. The Bitcoin adoption is going down considerably, and the number of people who use Bitcoin for their online shopping has also gone down steeply. Obviously I can't speak for the whole community, but I just spent 3~ BTC over at newegg.com a couple of weeks ago, and it seems that more opportunities to spend online are opening up every day, so I wouldn't argue that online shopping through Bitcoin is on the decline. I think online shopping is growing, however "offline" purchasing is still an issue. Since bitcoin is a digital asset buying things in the local shop will be problematic for a good while. Also, e.g. newegg.com is a cool site in the USA, but getting stuff to the EU from there is not easy. First of all, assuming bitcoin can save Greece, the fact that Greece cannot afford enough bitcoins as their Govt revenue puts a full stop over the debate. Secondly, people cannot buy bitcoins because their money is trapped. Assuming they can buy bitcoin, shop keepers in Greece don't accept bitcoins but cash. Even if that problem is sorted out, what about the increase in price level after Greece adopts bitcoin? The whole point of their debt and economic collapse was that they couldn't afford euro, you think they can afford bitcoin? LOL.
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July 05, 2015, 10:20:07 AM |
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No, it can't. Bitcoin is not the salvation of any state but it can help some people to save their 'money'....
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July 05, 2015, 06:44:16 PM |
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Can Greece really save bitcoin?
Lol.. that is the question which should be asked. We are discussing about the probability that Greece will be saved by a currency, whose value has declined by 80% in the last 18 months. The Bitcoin adoption is going down considerably, and the number of people who use Bitcoin for their online shopping has also gone down steeply. Bitcoin went into bubble mode in late 2013, and bottomed out back in January. Since then it has actually been performing pretty well the last six months, despite the warring factions on the scalability debate. So I think Bitcoin is fundamentally healthy enough.
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July 05, 2015, 07:13:30 PM |
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Greece says NO to EU at today’s referendum. All i can say - The most stupid thing they can do......this is the beginning of huge financial collapse..... I’m in EU too and in a matter of fact i think they didnt deserve any more help.....at the last years the Greeks eat and drink almost 500 billions $ and after that the whole EU must pay the bill..... so..... game over motherfuckers, now u need get some real work. Please donate here : 1KPp2EVWJMRJpH9d6ZJtQTZPERSBeHCnAg ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fzxc4mfx.jpg&t=665&c=9ccDCB-gQ8XmYw) Lets buy some Lubricants for all Greeks, they will need it...... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chemistwarehouse.com.au%2Fimages%2Fproductimages%2F51795%2Foriginal_CW.jpg%3F21%252F09%252F2011%2B9%253A17%253A30%2BPM&t=665&c=-ELThSUD_Rd8iw)
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#Bitcoin The future is here.
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July 05, 2015, 07:33:16 PM |
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It is not the peoples fault it`s the banks who will not give the people money that belongs to them ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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July 05, 2015, 07:33:42 PM |
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Well short term it seems that Greece is giving bitcoin a nice boost! We've been to $275, lets see if we hit 300 in the next day or so.
Who knows, maybe this willl get Greece a better deal from the EU... or maybe Grexit and bitcoin to the moon
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July 05, 2015, 07:43:02 PM |
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It is not the peoples fault it`s the banks who will not give the people money that belongs to them ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) nope, the Greeks are faulty....they dont have working economic, the only reason they are not in a collapse already is the EU is giving them a huge loans....loans they cant return ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I have no idea are u ever been in Greece, its beautiful country but the people are lazy, the main reason for their scenario now.
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#Bitcoin The future is here.
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July 05, 2015, 07:46:38 PM |
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so, all the people who are asking for money did not earn it? Did the people ever work for the money that can`t be taken out of banks?
All the citizens of Greece have been living on loans is that what you are saying larry12?
Help me understand
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