"Probable alt of Yenzae0215" ?

[Hexcoin]

If you are yenzae0215. Just pay your debts and apologize that you will not do it again.

Pls read the whole thread before posting, yenzae0215 is my cousin

I first understood your cousin just happened to have the same recycled address as yenzae0215 on the exchange. So he is the loan defaulter/scammer? Were you aware of that? Why didn't you ask him to repay long ago when he defaulted and disappeared?
Now I don't see how you can prove he's not your imaginary friend :/ And the thing is if it's really you (and not your cousin) then repaying the loan wouldn't be enough to get rid of a negative trust. Anyway you should repay that loan and then ask your cousin (if he really exists) to pay you back.

I just notice today that he uses yenzae0215 here in the forum because of this allegations. I dont really know if i should pay his debt for i dont know about that i cant force him to pay me if i pay his loan.

[CEG5952]

I first understood your cousin just happened to have the same recycled address as yenzae0215 on the exchange. So he is the loan defaulter/scammer? Were you aware of that? Why didn't you ask him to repay long ago when he defaulted and disappeared?
Now I don't see how you can prove he's not your imaginary friend :/ And the thing is if it's really you (and not your cousin) then repaying the loan wouldn't be enough to get rid of a negative trust. Anyway you should repay that loan and then ask your cousin (if he really exists) to pay you back.

This. If you don't know that your 'cousin' scammed a few people around here, then you could've just did a search on his address just like waterpile did here. Your 'cousin' caused trouble in the past and since you were affiliated with his address, you will be the one to blame here right now. The only option here for you is to either pay in your cousin's behalf and ask him to pay you back IRL OR tell him to get in here and pay for what he scammed and you will be clean. You don't want this thread to reach 5-10 pages before it gets resolved. It will be a permanent mark on your record and people will have a hard time to trust you.

[waterpile]

If you are yenzae0215. Just pay your debts and apologize that you will not do it again.

Pls read the whole thread before posting, yenzae0215 is my cousin

I first understood your cousin just happened to have the same recycled address as yenzae0215 on the exchange. So he is the loan defaulter/scammer? Were you aware of that? Why didn't you ask him to repay long ago when he defaulted and disappeared?
Now I don't see how you can prove he's not your imaginary friend :/ And the thing is if it's really you (and not your cousin) then repaying the loan wouldn't be enough to get rid of a negative trust. Anyway you should repay that loan and then ask your cousin (if he really exists) to pay you back.

I just notice today that he uses yenzae0215 here in the forum because of this allegations. I dont really know if i should pay his debt for i dont know about that i cant force him to pay me if i pay his loan.

well tell your cousin if he really exists to stop his gambling addiction.. almost every dice site that i saw him crying and begging for tips and every time he losses, he cries scam. As for now you could ask him to repay his overdue debt.. nakakahiya ang dami ng pnoise na puro loan defaulter at tuloy parang tingin na ng ibang bansa puro scammer na ang bansa natin...

This. If you don't know that your 'cousin' scammed a few people around here, then you could've just did a search on his address just like waterpile did here.

Its qory who found about this, I just moved it to the proper section

[Hexcoin]

@Waterpile : Thank you to move this to scam accusation. Can you change the tittle to "Probable alt of Yenzae0215" ?

the owner of this address 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is my cousin/close friend

i have my own address which is 191xqivuaVerBts5Q3rWg28qhvaDX3PjeE why would i place a bet to directbet and use another recieving address that based on reading this whole thread is 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is from an exchange. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975540.msg10651526#msg10651526 )

i know that the address my cousin is using is from exchange which is coins.ph i can give my account's username and password there to any very trusted member here for the verification of my account in coins.ph

my friend always do bet on sports but when he is at work or somewhere else, he always do contact me to place a bet for him and he will pay me when he got home (just in case the bet loses)

You're free to have multiple addresses, and you're free to use different payout address from your bets. Maybe you didn't expect that someone will notice this.

This is his last text yesterday before the bet that i placed for him in directbet


http://imgur.com/SFL8o2e

Can someone pls translate this for transparency.

How do we know that text message was sent by Yenzae ?, it could be sent by your another friend.

Check the quality of posts too. you can clearly say his (yenzae0215) posts quality is way different than mine. if you guys have any more questions pls feel free to ask it here or send me a PM so i can answer it as quickly as possible.

Yenzae's account has been banned , so you improve your post to avoid getting banned in the future.

i know that the address my cousin is using is from exchange which is coins.ph i can give my account's username and password there to any very trusted member here for the verification of my account in coins.ph

Probably accessing your account wouldn't help too much because having an account doesn't prove you don't have the other. What could help is asking your cousin to grant a very trusted member here temporary access to his coins.ph account to which  12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is attached.  The objective would be to check whether this is a recycled address. It should include the deposits from DirectBet in June/July but not the loan and other yenzae0215's TXs in March.
This would work only if coins.ph stores a big history of transactions. I don't know if that's the case.

I have sent email to coins.ph regarding your question. Waiting for their reply.

I think we can create multiple accounts in coins.ph and don't need to verify with our ID to buy/sell.
I have quoted one of cash-out options , probably, with multiple accounts we can avoid cashout limitation.

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Processing time: Instant
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Claim your payout at a Security Bank ATM, even if you don't have a bank account or debit card. Only available for orders worth min. PHP500, and max. PHP10,000 per transaction. NOTE: There is a monthly limit of Php100,000 per recipient mobile number.

Yes i am free to use any address but why i should split my coins to another address and give it back to my main address?

Why would i fake the text message? If its from another friend of mine then you are saying i can really accept to place bets for them? Then why not believe its from my cousin? If you think it is from a different friend of mine you can check the blockchaim again and see for yourself if i used another recieving addy in directbet for that "another friend"

So i cant post on my best way possible? If my posts history is better than him you accused me of that? It is not possible that im just a better poster than my cousin?

Afaik you can make multiple accounts there but they require id verification in some cases. Im not quite sure coz i dont use their site often

[Hexcoin]

If you are yenzae0215. Just pay your debts and apologize that you will not do it again.

Pls read the whole thread before posting, yenzae0215 is my cousin

I first understood your cousin just happened to have the same recycled address as yenzae0215 on the exchange. So he is the loan defaulter/scammer? Were you aware of that? Why didn't you ask him to repay long ago when he defaulted and disappeared?
Now I don't see how you can prove he's not your imaginary friend :/ And the thing is if it's really you (and not your cousin) then repaying the loan wouldn't be enough to get rid of a negative trust. Anyway you should repay that loan and then ask your cousin (if he really exists) to pay you back.

I just notice today that he uses yenzae0215 here in the forum because of this allegations. I dont really know if i should pay his debt for i dont know about that i cant force him to pay me if i pay his loan.

well tell your cousin if he really exists to stop his gambling addiction.. almost every dice site that i saw him crying and begging for tips and every time he losses, he cries scam. As for now you could ask him to repay his overdue debt.. nakakahiya ang dami ng pnoise na puro loan defaulter at tuloy parang tingin na ng ibang bansa puro scammer na ang bansa natin...

Well, one more thing that makes him and me different is i dont gamble much. You can check the outgoing transactions on my address almost 98% is only to luckybit and 2% on directbet unlike yenzae0215 as you said

[qory]

Probable other alts of Yenzae0215 :
1. Jenifer0012
jenifer0012 and yenzae0215 posted the same fb account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077420.msg11554584#msg11554584

Facebook: https://facebook.com/casopheia15
Friends: 1,155
BTC Address: 19xJpFiDbEFW8mwWtzKA5gqVPvUtasAu6q

Post for day6

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887679.msg9792304#msg9792304

http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=17XCAPgm44qLyQ8UoBmnfJuRj6SPL1ZqNh

https://www.facebook.com/casopheia15
https://twitter.com/casopheia15

Jenifer0012's address 19xJpFiDbEFW8mwWtzKA5gqVPvUtasAu6q
Some transactions from jenifer012's address are directbet.eu's deposit addressess.
Last transaction to 1c5jkGQjvoGFquHFqcPkiwxSSkcYZEu2T  is DirectBet.eu's deposit address ( bet status )
Bet won and payout sent to 1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P ( 60181... )

This address 1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P leads me to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1058213.0

1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P This address is your payout address from your bet I quoted above.

If you can't sign message from address you have posted, I doubt Theymos can help you to restore your account.

 that's the address of the one who took my account sir.

2. xFrostee
xFrostee's address : 148n8DBWjJaJfC64uqb1qREZQNddcqhHZ2 ( post
Transaction from xFrostee's address to 1Jozy7yvd9SnCZTN485fDsd3ZzofvHHsRy ( 778a... )
1Jozy7yvd9SnCZTN485fDsd3ZzofvHHsRy is DirectBet.eu's deposit address. ( bet status
Bet won and payout sent to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 ( 04ae.. )
12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is yenzae0215's address

3. cbase
cbase's address : 16YGA54bmczVzKRKoot9PSemJeMCw42dt2 ( post )
Some transactions from cbase's address are directbet.eu's deposit addressess.
Last transaction to 1NdUURauhedU8v4p3axPfZoatQ8iDrNUCB is DirectBet.eu's deposit address ( bet status )
Bet won and payout sent to 148n8DBWjJaJfC64uqb1qREZQNddcqhHZ2 ( d44b.. )

148n8DBWjJaJfC64uqb1qREZQNddcqhHZ2 is xFrostee's address.

Edit :
Another transaction from xFrostee's address to 1PNgJUKTEhuSCN4R2JEDyLDYjKkJMJj4yq ( d0488.. )
1PNgJUKTEhuSCN4R2JEDyLDYjKkJMJj4yq is directbet.eu's deposit address ( bet status )
Bet won and payout sent to 1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P ( 1d706... )

[Hexcoin]

 

Probable other alts of Yenzae0215 :
1. Jenifer0012
jenifer0012 and yenzae0215 posted the same fb account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077420.msg11554584#msg11554584

Facebook: https://facebook.com/casopheia15
Friends: 1,155
BTC Address: 19xJpFiDbEFW8mwWtzKA5gqVPvUtasAu6q

Post for day6

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887679.msg9792304#msg9792304

http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=17XCAPgm44qLyQ8UoBmnfJuRj6SPL1ZqNh

https://www.facebook.com/casopheia15
https://twitter.com/casopheia15

Jenifer0012's address 19xJpFiDbEFW8mwWtzKA5gqVPvUtasAu6q
Some transactions from jenifer012's address are directbet.eu's deposit addressess.
Last transaction to 1c5jkGQjvoGFquHFqcPkiwxSSkcYZEu2T  is DirectBet.eu's deposit address ( bet status )
Bet won and payout sent to 1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P ( 60181... )

This address 1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P leads me to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1058213.0

1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P This address is your payout address from your bet I quoted above.

If you can't sign message from address you have posted, I doubt Theymos can help you to restore your account.

 that's the address of the one who took my account sir.

2. xFrostee
xFrostee's address : 148n8DBWjJaJfC64uqb1qREZQNddcqhHZ2 ( post
Transaction from xFrostee's address to 1Jozy7yvd9SnCZTN485fDsd3ZzofvHHsRy ( 778a... )
1Jozy7yvd9SnCZTN485fDsd3ZzofvHHsRy is DirectBet.eu's deposit address. ( bet status
Bet won and payout sent to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 ( 04ae.. )
12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is yenzae0215's address

3. cbase
cbase's address : 16YGA54bmczVzKRKoot9PSemJeMCw42dt2 ( post )
Some transactions from cbase's address are directbet.eu's deposit addressess.
Last transaction to 1NdUURauhedU8v4p3axPfZoatQ8iDrNUCB is DirectBet.eu's deposit address ( bet status )
Bet won and payout sent to 148n8DBWjJaJfC64uqb1qREZQNddcqhHZ2 ( d44b.. )

148n8DBWjJaJfC64uqb1qREZQNddcqhHZ2 is xFrostee's address.

Edit :
Another transaction from xFrostee's address to 1PNgJUKTEhuSCN4R2JEDyLDYjKkJMJj4yq ( d0488.. )
1PNgJUKTEhuSCN4R2JEDyLDYjKkJMJj4yq is directbet.eu's deposit address ( bet status )
Bet won and payout sent to 1GYg7XJWTSAKehefj4sDeQfQuFqLtFHn5P ( 1d706... )

Did they scammed someone too? Is there any problem on your "yenzae0215 alts"?

Edit: i read the whole post again. So what do you want to say?

If that is really yenzae0215 alts then it is clear we are not one person. You should check the posts history of those accounts and you will see the difference. Lol

[qory]

Did they scammed someone too? Is there any problem on your "yenzae0215 alts"?

Edit: i read the whole post again. So what do you want to say?

If that is really yenzae0215 alts then it is clear we are not one person. You should check the posts history of those accounts and you will see the difference. Lol

Scammer's alts = scammer.
If what jacee said is true , it means yenzae stole jacee's account.

[jaydipmodhwadia]

so Yenzae is a "probable" scammer and hacker? (in terms of accounts)

[Hexcoin]

Did they scammed someone too? Is there any problem on your "yenzae0215 alts"?

Edit: i read the whole post again. So what do you want to say?

If that is really yenzae0215 alts then it is clear we are not one person. You should check the posts history of those accounts and you will see the difference. Lol

Scammer's alts = scammer.
If what jacee said is true , it means yenzae stole jacee's account.

Ok i understand that. What is next now? What it has to do with me?

[FruitsBasket]

IMO hexcoin is yenzae end of story.. don't give us the his my mother, father, gentleman excuse. You could also be my step brother 

[ChiliPowder]

What was the outcome of all this?

Did Hex ever pay any debts or figure if this guy really was his cousin.

Hex is constantly buying accounts, its not suprising he is a scammer.

[Hexcoin]

What was the outcome of all this?

Did Hex ever pay any debts or figure if this guy really was his cousin.

Hex is constantly buying accounts, its not suprising he is a scammer.

Constantly buying accounts? really? cant you see it as some kind of investment? can you check my account's history if i ever made a deal which i insisted something and looks like im trying to scam?

[qory]

I'm just trying to figure out probable alt / alt of scammer . You can always verify the evidences I've provided. Then everyone can make thier own opinion.

[Somekindabitcoin]

What was the outcome of all this?

Did Hex ever pay any debts or figure if this guy really was his cousin.

Hex is constantly buying accounts, its not suprising he is a scammer.

He only spam his signature with posts like "How much for this account?" or "Can you negotitate the price?" so he will get more BTC from BIT-X, it's obvious.

[Hexcoin]

What was the outcome of all this?

Did Hex ever pay any debts or figure if this guy really was his cousin.

Hex is constantly buying accounts, its not suprising he is a scammer.

He only spam his signature with posts like "How much for this account?" or "Can you negotitate the price?" so he will get more BTC from BIT-X, it's obvious.

Really? Have you tried checking my posts history if im spamming? Poor guy accusing me of something im not doing. Spammer? Lololol

[Somekindabitcoin]

What was the outcome of all this?

Did Hex ever pay any debts or figure if this guy really was his cousin.

Hex is constantly buying accounts, its not suprising he is a scammer.

He only spam his signature with posts like "How much for this account?" or "Can you negotitate the price?" so he will get more BTC from BIT-X, it's obvious.

Really? Have you tried checking my posts history if im spamming? Poor guy accusing me of something im not doing. Spammer? Lololol

I'm saying that you spam in threads about selling accounts, not on Bitcointalk.
I'm just saying how it is and it's true.