"Probable alt of Yenzae0215" ?

[waterpile]

I came across this on the lending section is this accusation valid?

Hexcoin is probable alt of yenzae0215.

Hexcoin's address 191xqivuaVerBts5Q3rWg28qhvaDX3PjeE. (post | archive)

Transaction from Hexcoin's address to 1LGbP2HqrS9LjieLxjvS5Efxy5yz119Qcc. (fb373ab295...

1LGbP2HqrS9LjieLxjvS5Efxy5yz119Qcc is DirectBet.eu's deposit address. (bet status)

Bet won and payout sent to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31. (a1e22929cd...)

12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is yenzae0215's address. (See OP | archive)

edit :
Transaction from hexcoin's address to 1G8DHQuaP4ahZRw1ugC83QKKaW7P1tZQ4L ( 3198c...)
1G8DHQuaP4ahZRw1ugC83QKKaW7P1tZQ4L is Directbet.eu's deposit address
Bet won and payout sent to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31

Edit 2 :
Hexcoin profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=201782

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[Muhammed Zakir]

I came across this on the lending section is this accusation valid?
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Yes because I don't think someone would withdraw their bet amount to another person's address. Hexcoin already withdraw bet amount to yenzae0215's address more than one time.

[EcuaMobi]

I can't think how this could be possible besides Hexcoin being an alt of yenzae0215, however I'd like to read his argument. I've left negative trust until then.
I guess defaulting those BTC0.05 was very expensive for him!

Edit: Considering yenzae0215's address belongs to an exchange and the lender's address has several TX I think more information is required. I've updated my feedback to neutral for the moment.

[CEG5952]

I can't think how this could be possible besides Hexcoin being an alt of yenzae0215, however I'd like to read his argument. I've left negative trust until then.
I guess defaulting those BTC0.05 was very expensive for him!

Defaulting that amount could be easy since he's offering a loan service. Someone should probably pm him about this thread so he can speak for his side.

[waterpile]

I guess its a good bye to the bought sr. member account to him.. Karma is such a bitch 

[Scamc0p]

Definite scam alt coin. Avoid it, it will give you a hex 
Same as Paxum

[Hexcoin]

Hexcoin is probable alt of yenzae0215.

Hexcoin's address 191xqivuaVerBts5Q3rWg28qhvaDX3PjeE. (post | archive)

Transaction from Hexcoin's address to 1LGbP2HqrS9LjieLxjvS5Efxy5yz119Qcc. (fb373ab295...

1LGbP2HqrS9LjieLxjvS5Efxy5yz119Qcc is DirectBet.eu's deposit address. (bet status)

Bet won and payout sent to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31. (a1e22929cd...)

12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is yenzae0215's address. (See OP | archive)

edit :
Transaction from hexcoin's address to 1G8DHQuaP4ahZRw1ugC83QKKaW7P1tZQ4L ( 3198c...)
1G8DHQuaP4ahZRw1ugC83QKKaW7P1tZQ4L is Directbet.eu's deposit address
Bet won and payout sent to 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31

Edit 2 :
Hexcoin profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=201782

the owner of this address 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is my cousin/close friend

i have my own address which is 191xqivuaVerBts5Q3rWg28qhvaDX3PjeE why would i place a bet to directbet and use another recieving address that based on reading this whole thread is 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is from an exchange. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975540.msg10651526#msg10651526 )

i know that the address my cousin is using is from exchange which is coins.ph i can give my account's username and password there to any very trusted member here for the verification of my account in coins.ph

my friend always do bet on sports but when he is at work or somewhere else, he always do contact me to place a bet for him and he will pay me when he got home (just in case the bet loses)

(i can post proofs of us having conversation via text message if anyone likes to see it)

@qory pls move this to scam accusation thread so we can have clean thread instead of using this loan thread of yenzae0215

EDIT: if this will help

Loan Amount : .05
Reason          : private
BTC Address  : 191xqivuaVerBts5Q3rWg28qhvaDX3PjeE
Term Length   : 2-4days

Im currently out of funds now and i need coins later

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ded4eb9d60b6a4b376ec6237f236f54d0e7d4e84bcdd42b70cab792987e9d7fb

Confirmed. Thank you

Payment sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/86b8590be54803dd79c63a0c64da3668387493d74df4ee71e8fed9a837d17475

thanks MZ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1098243.msg11715935#msg11715935

this 2 loans i taken have no collateral too and i didn't even scam a little amount like what yenzae0215 did

[Hexcoin]

sample bet ID that i use to recieve my winning to my real address 191xqivuaVerBts5Q3rWg28qhvaDX3PjeE

http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1FMnFj95LNDf4f8jzzhJANBGkmnzrLm238

[Hexcoin]

Check the quality of posts too. you can clearly say his (yenzae0215) posts quality is way different than mine. if you guys have any more questions pls feel free to ask it here or send me a PM so i can answer it as quickly as possible.

[EcuaMobi]

i know that the address my cousin is using is from exchange which is coins.ph i can give my account's username and password there to any very trusted member here for the verification of my account in coins.ph

Probably accessing your account wouldn't help too much because having an account doesn't prove you don't have the other. What could help is asking your cousin to grant a very trusted member here temporary access to his coins.ph account to which  12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is attached.  The objective would be to check whether this is a recycled address. It should include the deposits from DirectBet in June/July but not the loan and other yenzae0215's TXs in March.
This would work only if coins.ph stores a big history of transactions. I don't know if that's the case.

[Hexcoin]

i know that the address my cousin is using is from exchange which is coins.ph i can give my account's username and password there to any very trusted member here for the verification of my account in coins.ph

Probably accessing your account wouldn't help too much because having an account doesn't prove you don't have the other. What could help is asking your cousin to grant a very trusted member here temporary access to his coins.ph account to which  12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is attached.  The objective would be to check whether this is a recycled address. It should include the deposits from DirectBet in June/July but not the loan and other yenzae0215's TXs in March.

i understand i can't provide proof that he owns that address. i will try to ask him if he can give us access to his coins.ph account for a short time so we can check some transactions on it but im not sure if i can have his account to show you guys. hope you know the reason.

do you have any other suggestion on how i can verify he owns 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 addy?



EDIT: if there is no other way for me to prove that i am not yenzae0215, i guess i have no choice but to pay yenzae0215's debt? am i right?

[Hexcoin]

This is his last text yesterday before the bet that i placed for him in directbet


http://imgur.com/SFL8o2e

Can someone pls translate this for transparency.

[MarkMJ]

This is his last text yesterday before the bet that i placed for him in directbet


http://imgur.com/SFL8o2e

Can someone pls translate this for transparency.

You can translated yourself but anyway
Is philippine
"I bet you been bro worth 100php pay later home, I lost"
So this thicket is not a winner.

[wayayo]

This is his last text yesterday before the bet that i placed for him in directbet


http://imgur.com/SFL8o2e

Can someone pls translate this for transparency.

In English this translate to:

Bro can you bet for me again worth 100 pesos? I will pay it later when I come home if you lose.

[Hexcoin]

This is his last text yesterday before the bet that i placed for him in directbet


http://imgur.com/SFL8o2e

Can someone pls translate this for transparency.

You can translated yourself but anyway
Is philippine
"I bet you been bro worth 100php pay later home, I lost"
So this thicket is not a winner.

Dont use google translate. XD

This one below is better, i didn't translate it myself, i want other users to translate it tgemselves for transparency

This is his last text yesterday before the bet that i placed for him in directbet


http://imgur.com/SFL8o2e

Can someone pls translate this for transparency.

In English this translate to:

Bro can you bet for me again worth 100 pesos? I will pay it later when I come home if you lose.

[Hexcoin]

If you are yenzae0215. Just pay your debts and apologize that you will not do it again.

Pls read the whole thread before posting, yenzae0215 is my cousin

[Muhammed Zakir]

I have changed it to neutral for now.

Pls read the whole thread before posting, yenzae0215 is my cousin

You are so close. Why don't you ask him? Is he a kid? If yes, contact his parents.

[qory]

I'm working now , don't have much time on this forum during ramadhan. Will comeback to this thread after tarawih prayer.

@Hexcoin : provide more and valid evidence that Yenzae is your cousin or I will never trust you.  Probably,  Yenzae is serial scammer.

[EcuaMobi]

If you are yenzae0215. Just pay your debts and apologize that you will not do it again.

Pls read the whole thread before posting, yenzae0215 is my cousin

I first understood your cousin just happened to have the same recycled address as yenzae0215 on the exchange. So he is the loan defaulter/scammer? Were you aware of that? Why didn't you ask him to repay long ago when he defaulted and disappeared?
Now I don't see how you can prove he's not your imaginary friend :/ And the thing is if it's really you (and not your cousin) then repaying the loan wouldn't be enough to get rid of a negative trust. Anyway you should repay that loan and then ask your cousin (if he really exists) to pay you back.

[qory]

@Waterpile : Thank you to move this to scam accusation. Can you change the tittle to "Probable alt of Yenzae0215" ?

the owner of this address 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is my cousin/close friend

i have my own address which is 191xqivuaVerBts5Q3rWg28qhvaDX3PjeE why would i place a bet to directbet and use another recieving address that based on reading this whole thread is 12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is from an exchange. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975540.msg10651526#msg10651526 )

i know that the address my cousin is using is from exchange which is coins.ph i can give my account's username and password there to any very trusted member here for the verification of my account in coins.ph

my friend always do bet on sports but when he is at work or somewhere else, he always do contact me to place a bet for him and he will pay me when he got home (just in case the bet loses)

You're free to have multiple addresses, and you're free to use different payout address from your bets. Maybe you didn't expect that someone will notice this.

This is his last text yesterday before the bet that i placed for him in directbet


http://imgur.com/SFL8o2e

Can someone pls translate this for transparency.

How do we know that text message was sent by Yenzae ?, it could be sent by your another friend.

Check the quality of posts too. you can clearly say his (yenzae0215) posts quality is way different than mine. if you guys have any more questions pls feel free to ask it here or send me a PM so i can answer it as quickly as possible.

Yenzae's account has been banned , so you improve your post to avoid getting banned in the future.

i know that the address my cousin is using is from exchange which is coins.ph i can give my account's username and password there to any very trusted member here for the verification of my account in coins.ph

Probably accessing your account wouldn't help too much because having an account doesn't prove you don't have the other. What could help is asking your cousin to grant a very trusted member here temporary access to his coins.ph account to which  12R9SPJBoiXmJiQ23HwM38gEWoBZ6FWk31 is attached.  The objective would be to check whether this is a recycled address. It should include the deposits from DirectBet in June/July but not the loan and other yenzae0215's TXs in March.
This would work only if coins.ph stores a big history of transactions. I don't know if that's the case.

I have sent email to coins.ph regarding your question. Waiting for their reply.

I think we can create multiple accounts in coins.ph and don't need to verify with our ID to buy/sell.
I have quoted one of cash-out options , probably, with multiple accounts we can avoid cashout limitation.

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