China biggest bitcoin portal www.hxtop.com was hacked!

[hxtop]

BTCThe china's largest and earliest bitcoin website information portal http://www.hxtop.com as hackers through sql injection bug get the control of the virtual host(windows2003 system) hxtop.com unable to access normally now.
hxtop.com website source code stolen or be deleted by the hacker
Virtual host provider said that virtual host was hacked,but a few days have not recovered.as the backup data above the same server too , so the recovery time is longer,Maybe a lot of data will be lost said the virtual host provider.
The recovery time of the website is not clearly determined, provided that the data is restored first.
The hxtop.com webmaster "swemp" has actively coordinate the handling of data recovery, and intends to replace it with a new web hosting space.
The bitcoin community development so far, security event incidents continue.
In order to better service the website viewers of hxtop.com We will try to resume as soon as possible.said the webmaster "swemp"  if some idea please mailto:swemp@qq.com

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[kiba]

Winblow and SQL injection really??? 

[CIYAM]

If you are interested in having a website that is SQL injection proof and cannot have source code stolen then you might be interested in the technology that I've developed (all back end code is compiled C++, all queries are via an abstraction layer that ensures SQL injection is impossible and all URLs cannot be tampered with due to checksum protection).

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

[Severian]

I'm sorry to hear it but to take a positive view, this means that bitcoin has arrived in China.

[Raoul Duke]

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

That's not a weakness. It's a deal breaker.

[CIYAM]

That's not a weakness. It's a deal breaker.

For the website in question I'd guess so.

Am actually hoping to go up against the likes of Diaspora by having private content securely encrypted over plain HTTP (a feature recently developed).

[cedivad]

If you are interested in having a website that is SQL injection proof and cannot have source code stolen then you might be interested in the technology that I've developed (all back end code is compiled C++, all queries are via an abstraction layer that ensures SQL injection is impossible and all URLs cannot be tampered with due to checksum protection).

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

Don't lose your (worthy) time.

[hxtop]

SQL injection get the db rights and then got the admin password of the host?
In china more and more website gus like to  use the same Virtual host runing the website.
so the problem is each website code Not safe enough.

[hxtop]

If you are interested in having a website that is SQL injection proof and cannot have source code stolen then you might be interested in the technology that I've developed (all back end code is compiled C++, all queries are via an abstraction layer that ensures SQL injection is impossible and all URLs cannot be tampered with due to checksum protection).

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

Don't lose your (worthy) time.

Thank you for reminding me

[goodlord666]

If you are interested in having a website that is SQL injection proof and cannot have source code stolen then you might be interested in the technology that I've developed (all back end code is compiled C++, all queries are via an abstraction layer that ensures SQL injection is impossible and all URLs cannot be tampered with due to checksum protection).

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

Don't lose your (worthy) time.

Care to explain?

[hxtop]

That's not a weakness. It's a deal breaker.

For the website in question I'd guess so.

Am actually hoping to go up against the likes of Diaspora by having private content securely encrypted over plain HTTP (a feature recently developed).

(a feature recently developed)?

did you have any detail for me.thank you much

[hxtop]

I'm sorry to hear it but to take a positive view, this means that bitcoin has arrived in China.

bitcoin has arrived in China long time just you never know it or less know it.

[Severian]

bitcoin has arrived in China long time just you never know it or less know it.

"Arrived" is also an American idiom that means, "has come of age" or "has come into its own".

It's a good thing.

[CIYAM]

did you have any detail for me.thank you much

Sure - when you provide a password to "log in" then this is hashed along with a UUID to then encrypt an AJAX type request.

Your request will just look like rubbish to any MITM watcher and all content returned via the AJAX request (which is all the content and why Google can't see anything) is encrypted not with the same key but with another hash (determined client side from the original).

Due to the use of a UUID it is not possible to use a "replay" attack from watching the original login post (hope this makes sense).

[Desolator]

There's a way I learned in programming class that's much better and leaves your site google index-able.  It's called don't code it like a dumbass and don't leave it open to SQL injections.  Handle all characters related to SQL statement strings and they'll never hit the database!

Also, don't use server 03 lol.  Since this was china, I guarantee it was an illegal copy too so it was probably missing all service packs, lol.

[CIYAM]

There's a way I learned in programming class that's much better and leaves your site google index-able.ably missing all service packs, lol.

Actually I am building CMS extensions that will generate real pages that can be indexed by Google, etc. (has just not been my priority).

[BCB]

I'm certain you could have public facing and searchable pages and use your encryption starting a log in.  Why would google need to index your protected pages as long as the public urls say where it is and what it does.

[hxtop]

There's a way I learned in programming class that's much better and leaves your site google index-able.ably missing all service packs, lol.

Actually I am building CMS extensions that will generate real pages that can be indexed by Google, etc. (has just not been my priority).

My website is the use of CMS
base PHP and ASP

[hxtop]

bitcoin has arrived in China long time just you never know it or less know it.

"Arrived" is also an American idiom that means, "has come of age" or "has come into its own".

It's a good thing.

China is a big market, any product can find business opportunities in China. BITCOIN precisely

[CIYAM]

I'm certain you could have public facing and searchable pages and use your encryption starting a log in.  Why would google need to index your protected pages as long as the public urls say where it is and what it does.

Yes - this is under development (just not a big priority yet).

[URSAY]

Could this have anything to do with the recent sell off?  

[CIYAM]

Could this have anything to do with the recent sell off?  

I very much doubt that - the volume on btcchina has been well under 1000 btc per day for quite a while.

[hxtop]

I'm certain you could have public facing and searchable pages and use your encryption starting a log in.  Why would google need to index your protected pages as long as the public urls say where it is and what it does.

Yes - this is under development (just not a big priority yet).

That a good idea if got any progress please note me.

[hxtop]

Could this have anything to do with the recent sell off?  

I very much doubt that - the volume on btcchina has been well under 1000 btc per day for quite a while.

By comparing last year's transaction data (btcchina.com)   1000 btc per day has been great progress.
That means the Chinese market gradually bigger .
dod't you think?

[CIYAM]

By comparing last year's transaction data (btcchina.com)   1000 btc per day has been great progress.
That means the Chinese market gradually bigger .
dod't you think?

For sure the volume has greatly increased since last year - but nothing has dramatically changed very recently (was actually a little surprised that the "memorydealers" visit seemingly had no effect this time when last time it caused a huge jump in volume).

[hxtop]

By comparing last year's transaction data (btcchina.com)   1000 btc per day has been great progress.
That means the Chinese market gradually bigger .
dod't you think?

For sure the volume has greatly increased since last year - but nothing has dramatically changed very recently (was actually a little surprised that the "memorydealers" visit seemingly had no effect this time when last time it caused a huge jump in volume).

China is a traditional country, and the country's legal and institutional severe restrictions "free", BITCOIN's spirit of freedom, so the national government can not let you "free".
But we will try to make more and more Chinese people receive BITCOIN and use it.
There is so much trading volume, and I think that also need more foreigners to cooperate or help us to open this big market in China.

[lebing]

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

That's not a weakness. It's a deal breaker.

Actually, google isnt the biggest engine in china...

[Raoul Duke]

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

That's not a weakness. It's a deal breaker.

Actually, google isnt the biggest engine in china...

If google can't index it neither can any other search engine.

[Otoh]

I'm sorry to hear it but to take a positive view, this means that bitcoin has arrived in China.

bitcoin has arrived in China long time just you never know it or less know it.

China <3 bitcoin long time http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/btcnCNY#igDailyztgSzm1g20zm2g50zvzl but mostly last June was the hottest

[Ubrixorg]

Linux r0x.

[Desolator]

Yeah, use parameters in the database and/or remove all double quotes from all input fields anywhere on the website.  Any site that gets hit by an SQL injection fired a programmer that graduated at least a decade ago because nobody these days is that stupid.

[n8rwJeTt8TrrLKPa55eU]

Yeah, use parameters in the database and/or remove all double quotes from all input fields anywhere on the website.  Any site that gets hit by an SQL injection fired a programmer that graduated at least a decade ago because nobody these days is that stupid.

Right, the history of programming incompetence at Bitcoin websites is astounding, especially for businesses dealing with money.  Assuming typical Microsoft service stack of 2003/SQL/IIS/ASP.NET, .NET has had a built-in query framework called LINQ for quite a few years, which does proper parametrization automatically.  I'm sure we will next hear that the hacked machine had a 100% hot wallet on it.

[hxtop]

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

That's not a weakness. It's a deal breaker.

Actually, google isnt the biggest engine in china...

Actually, google isnt the biggest engine in china...
that correct google.com can not be accessed because of a national firewall in China, Chinese users can only access with google.cn, however, limited functionality, a lot of good foreign websites are filtered!

[MemoryDealers]

For sure the volume has greatly increased since last year - but nothing has dramatically changed very recently (was actually a little surprised that the "memorydealers" visit seemingly had no effect this time when last time it caused a huge jump in volume).

I actually wasn't able to go earlier this moth as I had planned.
I'm sure I will make another visit to China again soon.

[flower1024]

If you are interested in having a website that is SQL injection proof and cannot have source code stolen then you might be interested in the technology that I've developed (all back end code is compiled C++, all queries are via an abstraction layer that ensures SQL injection is impossible and all URLs cannot be tampered with due to checksum protection).

The one weakness at this stage with the technology is that Google can't even search your site (all queries are through the main website URL).

how are you doing this?

select * from users where user='flower' and pwd='flower'
select * from users where user='flower' and pwd='flower' or ''=''

how does your layer detect the second fraudulent call?

[CIYAM]

select * from users where user='flower' and pwd='flower'
select * from users where user='flower' and pwd='flower' or ''=''

how does your layer detect the second fraudulent call?

There are no SQL queries manually coded anywhere in my system - all SQL is generated by the application server so the above simply could not occur.

A big advantage to this approach (apart from security) is that fields can be renamed without having to manually change any code (after renaming a "regenerate" performs all require changes).

[flower1024]

select * from users where user='flower' and pwd='flower'
select * from users where user='flower' and pwd='flower' or ''=''

how does your layer detect the second fraudulent call?

There are no SQL queries manually coded anywhere in my system - all SQL is generated by the application server so the above simply could not occur.

A big advantage to this approach (apart from security) is that fields can be renamed without having to manually change any code (after renaming a "regenerate" performs all require changes).

ok, but this requires a rewrite of all sql statements of the existing site.
so their is no need for your layer - just go with named parameters then and you are fine

[CIYAM]

ok, but this requires a rewrite of all sql statements of the existing site.
so their is no need for your layer - just go with named parameters then and you are fine

Well not a rewrite of SQL statements (as there are none in my system) but it would be an entirely new application so I do understand that it's probably more likely that some sort of minimal approach (as you suggest) to fixing things up would be taken.

[flower1024]

ok, but this requires a rewrite of all sql statements of the existing site.
so their is no need for your layer - just go with named parameters then and you are fine

Well not a rewrite of SQL statements (as there are none in my system) but it would be an entirely new application so I do understand that it's probably more likely that some sort of minimal approach (as you suggest) to fixing things up would be taken.

ah ok now understand you.
you offer a middleware/appserver which exposes some functions (like Authenticate(user, pwd)) and you do all the fancy sql stuff in there?

personally i dont like seperate server (esp. not if using asp.net), but anyhow its a working solution.

[CIYAM]

It's perhaps a little more like a complete platform (such as Ruby on Rails) and sure I understand not everyone wants to learn how to work with such a beast.

The really good thing about the system/platform is that you can build complete web applications without writing code at all.

[flower1024]

The really good thing about the system/platform is that you can build complete web applications without writing code at all.

thats the reason i dont like it

but anyway: good work; if you could make it bitcoin aware (eg provide functions/triggers which communicate directly with bitcoind) i might take a look instead of reinventing the wheel.

[CIYAM]

but anyway: good work; if you could make it bitcoin aware (eg provide functions/triggers which communicate directly with bitcoind) i might take a look instead of reinventing the wheel.

Thanks - I will be adding support for "bitcoind" calls as part of the first application I intend to promote with the launch of the system later this year (can't say much about the application itself).

Apart from the "secret application" it already has Forum and Blog packages and it will also have a complete webmail application as well (with GPG support).

[the_thing]

Could this have anything to do with the recent sell off?  

No. The recent sell off has been caused by finding out that BFL is a scam and there will be no ASIC.

[flower1024]

Could this have anything to do with the recent sell off?   

No. The recent sell off has been caused by finding out that BFL is a scam and there will be no ASIC.

LoL