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[Phinnaeus Gage]

Isn't the jalepeno supposed to be hot to the touch? Hence the "coffee warmer" part.

It will never be able to warm a cup of coffee, unless you like your coffee room temperature.

It wasn't meant to warm a cup of coffee, but to keep it warm, but you are correct in your assessment.

But let's now examine this from another angle. Why go through all the trouble of building a unit that exerts as little heat as possible, yet market it as an item to place a 180^o cup of coffee on, thus heating it up.

A coffee warmer is basically designed to keep a hot cup of coffee warm as long as possible, and not a heating device to warm/heat coffee starting at room temperature.

Therefore, from a marketing standpoint, I would have named it PepinoFrío.

[niko]

Isn't the jalepeno supposed to be hot to the touch? Hence the "coffee warmer" part.

It will never be able to warm a cup of coffee, unless you like your coffee room temperature.

It wasn't meant to warm a cup of coffee, but to keep it warm, but you are correct in your assessment.

But let's now examine this from another angle. Why go through all the trouble of building a unit that exerts as little heat as possible, yet market it as an item to place a 180^o cup of coffee on, thus heating it up.

A coffee warmer is basically designed to keep a hot cup of coffee warm as long as possible, and not a heating device to warm/heat coffee starting at room temperature.

Therefore, from a marketing standpoint, I would have name it PepinoFrío.

I guarantee 4.5W of power can heat up a cup of coffee. Hell, you could even get water to boil!  All that's needed is a little add-on gadget: a perfectly insulating tent. It's a box made of styrofoam, with IR-reflective coating on the inside. It's got inductively coupled connection for electrical power, and a wireless data passthrough. Open the box. Place your Jalapeno inside and hook it up. Place the cup on top. Close the lid and seal the box. Establish the connection and start mining.  After a week or so you will have mined 0.07 bitcoins, boiled a cup of water, and fried a jalapeno. Quite an accomplishment.

[scrybe]

I guarantee 4.5W of power can heat up a cup of coffee. Hell, you could even get water to boil!  All that's needed is a little add-on gadget: a perfectly insulating tent. It's a box made of styrofoam, with IR-reflective coating on the inside. It's got inductively coupled connection for electrical power, and a wireless data passthrough. Open the box. Place your Jalapeno inside and hook it up. Place the cup on top. Close the lid and seal the box. Establish the connection and start mining.  After a week or so you will have mined 0.07 bitcoins, boiled a cup of water, and fried a jalapeno. Quite an accomplishment.

That is instead of the Black Body heatsink, right?

[SysRun]

fried jalapenos, now there's a treat we can all enjoy!

[abeaulieu]

I guarantee 4.5W of power can heat up a cup of coffee. Hell, you could even get water to boil!  All that's needed is a little add-on gadget: a perfectly insulating tent. It's a box made of styrofoam, with IR-reflective coating on the inside. It's got inductively coupled connection for electrical power, and a wireless data passthrough. Open the box. Place your Jalapeno inside and hook it up. Place the cup on top. Close the lid and seal the box. Establish the connection and start mining.  After a week or so you will have mined 0.07 bitcoins, boiled a cup of water, and fried a jalapeno. Quite an accomplishment.

It's not 4.5W of thermal energy. It's 4.5W of electrical energy. So it largely depends on the efficiency of the components they are using.

You lose power in 3 main places of these designs: AC to DC conversion (line voltage to input, so this doesn't apply to the jalapeno), the power supply section (converting from input voltage to the supply voltages), and the high frequency computation (in this case the ASIC chips).

That being said, only a fraction of that power will pop out as heat.

[Soros Shorts]

I guarantee 4.5W of power can heat up a cup of coffee. Hell, you could even get water to boil!  All that's needed is a little add-on gadget: a perfectly insulating tent. It's a box made of styrofoam, with IR-reflective coating on the inside. It's got inductively coupled connection for electrical power, and a wireless data passthrough. Open the box. Place your Jalapeno inside and hook it up. Place the cup on top. Close the lid and seal the box. Establish the connection and start mining.  After a week or so you will have mined 0.07 bitcoins, boiled a cup of water, and fried a jalapeno. Quite an accomplishment.

It's not 4.5W of thermal energy. It's 4.5W of electrical energy. So it largely depends on the efficiency of the components they are using.

You lose power in 3 main places of these designs: AC to DC conversion (line voltage to input, so this doesn't apply to the jalapeno), the power supply section (converting from input voltage to the supply voltages), and the high frequency computation (in this case the ASIC chips).

That being said, only a fraction of that power will pop out as heat.

So what happens to the rest? I don't believe that hashes can be considered as "work" under the First Law of Thermodynamics.

[Shermo]

It will all be heat, unless it produces light or sound? 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

It will all be heat, unless it produces light or sound? 

But if you get it to vibrate, a whole new client base will pre-order the device, albeit LadyBytes, et al., will prefer to have it renamed Pepino.

[Fjordbit]

But if you get it to vibrate, a whole new client base will pre-order the device, albeit LadyBytes, et al., will prefer to have it renamed Pepino.

That kind of fits. There's already a popular device of that nature called the butterfly.

[niko]

But if you get it to vibrate, a whole new client base will pre-order the device, albeit LadyBytes, et al., will prefer to have it renamed Pepino.

That kind of fits. There's already a popular device of that nature called the butterfly.

There must be a way to hash mechanically... A steampunk miner/vibrator. It's OrgASMIC! (Application-Specific Mining Integrated Circuit)

[ElectricMucus]

I guarantee 4.5W of power can heat up a cup of coffee. Hell, you could even get water to boil!  All that's needed is a little add-on gadget: a perfectly insulating tent. It's a box made of styrofoam, with IR-reflective coating on the inside. It's got inductively coupled connection for electrical power, and a wireless data passthrough. Open the box. Place your Jalapeno inside and hook it up. Place the cup on top. Close the lid and seal the box. Establish the connection and start mining.  After a week or so you will have mined 0.07 bitcoins, boiled a cup of water, and fried a jalapeno. Quite an accomplishment.

It's not 4.5W of thermal energy. It's 4.5W of electrical energy. So it largely depends on the efficiency of the components they are using.

You lose power in 3 main places of these designs: AC to DC conversion (line voltage to input, so this doesn't apply to the jalapeno), the power supply section (converting from input voltage to the supply voltages), and the high frequency computation (in this case the ASIC chips).

That being said, only a fraction of that power will pop out as heat.

So what happens to the rest? I don't believe that hashes can be considered as "work" under the First Law of Thermodynamics.

Exactly.

Short of electromagnetic losses and losses due to induction which are marginal under the circumstances of a IC all of the energy consumed by a chip will end as heat one way or the other.

[abeaulieu]

I guarantee 4.5W of power can heat up a cup of coffee. Hell, you could even get water to boil!  All that's needed is a little add-on gadget: a perfectly insulating tent. It's a box made of styrofoam, with IR-reflective coating on the inside. It's got inductively coupled connection for electrical power, and a wireless data passthrough. Open the box. Place your Jalapeno inside and hook it up. Place the cup on top. Close the lid and seal the box. Establish the connection and start mining.  After a week or so you will have mined 0.07 bitcoins, boiled a cup of water, and fried a jalapeno. Quite an accomplishment.

It's not 4.5W of thermal energy. It's 4.5W of electrical energy. So it largely depends on the efficiency of the components they are using.

You lose power in 3 main places of these designs: AC to DC conversion (line voltage to input, so this doesn't apply to the jalapeno), the power supply section (converting from input voltage to the supply voltages), and the high frequency computation (in this case the ASIC chips).

That being said, only a fraction of that power will pop out as heat.

So what happens to the rest? I don't believe that hashes can be considered as "work" under the First Law of Thermodynamics.

Exactly.

Short of electromagnetic losses and losses due to induction which are marginal under the circumstances of a IC all of the energy consumed by a chip will end as heat one way or the other.

True, electromagnetic energy loss is quite small compared to thermal energy lost. Light, even just a blinking LED, is actually more substantial. I guess what I meant to say is the heat you're generating will not be concentrated in a fashion that easily lends way to heating a cup of coffee, but I could be wrong.

[MrTeal]

I guarantee 4.5W of power can heat up a cup of coffee. Hell, you could even get water to boil!  All that's needed is a little add-on gadget: a perfectly insulating tent. It's a box made of styrofoam, with IR-reflective coating on the inside. It's got inductively coupled connection for electrical power, and a wireless data passthrough. Open the box. Place your Jalapeno inside and hook it up. Place the cup on top. Close the lid and seal the box. Establish the connection and start mining.  After a week or so you will have mined 0.07 bitcoins, boiled a cup of water, and fried a jalapeno. Quite an accomplishment.

It's not 4.5W of thermal energy. It's 4.5W of electrical energy. So it largely depends on the efficiency of the components they are using.

You lose power in 3 main places of these designs: AC to DC conversion (line voltage to input, so this doesn't apply to the jalapeno), the power supply section (converting from input voltage to the supply voltages), and the high frequency computation (in this case the ASIC chips).

That being said, only a fraction of that power will pop out as heat.

So what happens to the rest? I don't believe that hashes can be considered as "work" under the First Law of Thermodynamics.

Exactly.

Short of electromagnetic losses and losses due to induction which are marginal under the circumstances of a IC all of the energy consumed by a chip will end as heat one way or the other.

True, electromagnetic energy loss is quite small compared to thermal energy lost. Light, even just a blinking LED, is actually more substantial. I guess what I meant to say is the heat you're generating will not be concentrated in a fashion that easily lends way to heating a cup of coffee, but I could be wrong.

Most small display LEDs are going to be run at a few milliwatts, and even then the actual output of light will be lower. Only a fraction of the power will end up as heat, but it will be a very, very large fraction.

[Merrick]

But if you get it to vibrate, a whole new client base will pre-order the device, albeit LadyBytes, et al., will prefer to have it renamed Pepino.

That kind of fits. There's already a popular device of that nature called the butterfly.

There must be a way to hash mechanically... A steampunk miner/vibrator. It's OrgASMIC! (Application-Specific Mining Integrated Circuit)

I'd buy one...

[fcmatt]

So... Is everyone content that you will not see your bfl hardware until 2013?

[abeaulieu]

So... Is everyone content that you will not see your bfl hardware until 2013?

fcmatt is certainly not bitter because he didn't place an order.

[Badonkadonk]

So... Is everyone content that you will not see your bfl hardware until 2013?

i fell asleep on the couch earlyer and dremt my pre orders had just arrived.... man it SUCKS too wake up sometimes lol

[Jack1Rip1BurnIt]

So... Is everyone content that you will not see your bfl hardware until 2013?

Pretty much. Celebrate if we get them sonner but dont count on it so you wont be dissapointed when iit doesn't happen.

[SLok]

So... Is everyone content that you will not see your bfl hardware until 2013?

Haven't heard anyone of importance stating that, sofar.

[ElectricMucus]

I'll certainly be around to say: I told you that too.