Already delays in BFL shipment plans?

[creativex]

I'm sure many ordered from them unaware of their history of deceit or believing their statements that it'll be different THIS time. I went with another vendor because of their past, but if you ordered early in the year their weren't a lot of choices. Handing out zero interest loans isn't really my thing.

[Starlightbreaker]

I'm sure many ordered from them unaware of their history of deceit or believing their statements that it'll be different THIS time. I went with another vendor because of their past, but if you ordered early in the year their weren't a lot of choices. Handing out zero interest loans isn't really my thing.

or do like some of us do, order from both, but trust the one with proven track record more.
jally from bfl, bASIC from Tom.

minimize the losses.   


we'll see at the end of december, if i can say "fucking told you so" to the ones ordering from bfl only.

[Xian01]

* Goes out to the shed and starts sharpening his pitch fork *

[loshia]

or do like some of us do, order from both, but trust the one with proven track record more.
jally from bfl, bASIC from Tom.

minimize the losses.   


we'll see at the end of december, if i can say "fucking told you so" to the ones ordering from bfl only.

It may turn out that It works like LIFO - do not underestimate AVALON team also. They are local, have good background and have access to top manufacturing facilities with more than one machine also:)

[Unacceptable]

I'm sure many ordered from them unaware of their history of deceit or believing their statements that it'll be different THIS time. I went with another vendor because of their past, but if you ordered early in the year their weren't a lot of choices. Handing out zero interest loans isn't really my thing.

or do like some of us do, order from both, but trust the one with proven track record more.
jally from bfl, bASIC from Tom.

minimize the losses.   


we'll see at the end of december, if i can say "fucking told you so" to the ones ordering from bfl only.

I wish I had the money to order from both,oh well.................

Even if BFL ships second,they will still have the power use advantage.So in the longrun they win anyway 

[psilan]

2x BFL 2xbASIC. Both first run orders. I'll win the short and the long race no matter what .

[loshia]

2x BFL 2xbASIC. Both first run orders. I'll win the short and the long race no matter what .

Unless Avalon happen to be the first one:)

[psilan]

2x BFL 2xbASIC. Both first run orders. I'll win the short and the long race no matter what .

Unless Avalon happen to be the first one:)

True! But the quantity involved won't be too damaging. Unless a much larger personal farm for Avalon is made in the same run.

[loshia]

2x BFL 2xbASIC. Both first run orders. I'll win the short and the long race no matter what .

I am interested to win the short race. As we well know long race can not be won at all. I mean that we will have to reinvest everything again and again.
I can not predict what will happen in 1-2 years period at all. Even electricity costs=0, i am not sure what will be the profit of this units ....Not mentioning the fact that they probably will not have any resell value apart of the BTC community itself.

[creativex]

Even if BFL ships second,they will still have the power use advantage.So in the longrun they win anyway 

If the choice is a fairly modest power advantage(65nm vs 90nm) or having the ASIC just a couple weeks sooner, it's a no-brainer. Power consumption will matter down the road, but if BFL delays again and Tom does ship on time, some of those early bASIC customers would have an ROI measured in weeks. Don't think they'll care if their ASIC consumes 100w or 60.

Anyway BFL lied about both shipping dates and power consumption last product cycle. So far this time they've only lied about shipping dates, but their credibility is non-existent in my book. I'll believe those perfectly uniform power consumption numbers across their entire SC product line as soon as they're out in the wild.

[Starlightbreaker]

or do like some of us do, order from both, but trust the one with proven track record more.
jally from bfl, bASIC from Tom.

minimize the losses.   


we'll see at the end of december, if i can say "fucking told you so" to the ones ordering from bfl only.

It may turn out that It works like LIFO - do not underestimate AVALON team also. They are local, have good background and have access to top manufacturing facilities with more than one machine also:)

to be honest, avalon wasn't even in my radar, since they planned to ship on january when they start opening preorders.

That, and shipping from china can be quite..a pain in the ass.

BFL can't get shit straight for months, don't and never expect them to get shit straight until you see the proof of them TESTING and shipping stuff out.

haha, october my ass.

[BitSyncom]

True! But the quantity involved won't be too damaging. Unless a much larger personal farm for Avalon is made in the same run.

Like I mentioned, we plan to release in smaller batch to avoid the whole back-order situation our competitor is running into, with that said, we expect all 300 units to finish shipping out before Jan ends, currently we are looking waterfall of 300 units every 2 weeks. This also means there will be a second batch soon after, with a shipping "zone" of 2 weeks from ordering.

[psilan]

Like I mentioned, we plan to release in smaller batch to avoid the whole back-order situation our competitor is running into, with that said, we expect all 300 units to finish shipping out before Jan ends, currently we are looking waterfall of 300 units every 2 weeks. This also means there will be a second batch soon after, with a shipping "zone" of 2 weeks from ordering.

Ahh cool. Did not notice that.
I'm pretty much risking all I want to on this game now anyway. I did try to get a Avalon initially, but missed out. Good luck .

[libertybuck]

That, and shipping from china can be quite..a pain in the ass.
 

To ship goods from China to US with DHL,  usually it will take 4 days or so to deliver goods to your hands.

[LiteBit]

Granted, the fact that October has come and gone and November is half done is driving me crazy!

But when I preordered, the delivery date wasn't the reason I bought. It was the hash power I could finally have in my hands at affordable costs. That hasn't changed and in fact was bolstered by the increase of 40% while I've been waiting.

Missing the halving is a tough pill to swallow and so is the sheer quantity of ASICs being preordered. Nevertheless, I'm glad I pulled the plug back in early July and wait anxiously for the black boxes to arrive on my doorstep.

Now hurry the FREAK up guys!

[Syke]

Missing the halving is a tough pill to swallow and so is the sheer quantity of ASICs being preordered. Nevertheless, I'm glad I pulled the plug back in early July and wait anxiously for the black boxes to arrive on my doorstep.

Price in Jul: $6/btc
Price in Nov: $12/btc

Had you invested by buying BTC instead of giving BFL a loan, you would have doubled your money. BFL thanks you greatly for the huge interest-free loan.

[crazyates]

Missing the halving is a tough pill to swallow and so is the sheer quantity of ASICs being preordered. Nevertheless, I'm glad I pulled the plug back in early July and wait anxiously for the black boxes to arrive on my doorstep.

Price in Jul: $6/btc
Price in Nov: $12/btc

Had you invested by buying BTC instead of giving BFL a loan, you would have doubled your money. BFL thanks you greatly for the huge interest-free loan.

It's well known that BFL uses Bit-pay, which automatically deposits USD at the time of purchase. BFL never actually holds any coins at any time.

[Meatball]

Missing the halving is a tough pill to swallow and so is the sheer quantity of ASICs being preordered. Nevertheless, I'm glad I pulled the plug back in early July and wait anxiously for the black boxes to arrive on my doorstep.

Price in Jul: $6/btc
Price in Nov: $12/btc

Had you invested by buying BTC instead of giving BFL a loan, you would have doubled your money. BFL thanks you greatly for the huge interest-free loan.

And had I bought a truckload of Twinkies last week I'd be rich today, what's your point?  BTC could have also been worth $1 today.  If I could predict the future I'd certainly have more than doubled my money in 5 months.

Not to mention, any time you pre-order anything you're giving someone an interest free loan.  Pre-Order anything off of Steam or any video games, there's an interest free loan.  Heck, buy any gift card in the world and you're giving that company an interest free loan.

[fcmatt]

Missing the halving is a tough pill to swallow and so is the sheer quantity of ASICs being preordered. Nevertheless, I'm glad I pulled the plug back in early July and wait anxiously for the black boxes to arrive on my doorstep.

Price in Jul: $6/btc
Price in Nov: $12/btc

Had you invested by buying BTC instead of giving BFL a loan, you would have doubled your money. BFL thanks you greatly for the huge interest-free loan.

Or kept mining with gpu for all thus time enjoying good profits... Plus not having cash tied up in bfl...

[bitsnpieces]

BFL never actually holds any coins at any time.

Oh? You speak on behalf of BFL? You work as an accountant or something like for them to know that for sure?

BFL might not hold coins - but they sure hold our (pre order) money. Lots.