Satoshi dumped Bitcoin right after Gavin announced he was going to the CIA.

[IIOII]

People, please... There is no such thing as an "official" client in an open-source project. There might be a dominant client that is more popular than the others, but surely for software to be official, it would have to be closed-source?

Most of bitcoiners don't audit changes in the most popular client. Even if someone finds a backdoor and announces here, most of bitcoiners won't pay attention, they'll be listening to "The Bitcoin Foundation". That's why involvement of Gavin into "TBF" is very dangerous.

+1

This is not about theoretical possibilities - it's about the factual centralization of power to shape the future of Bitcoin.

I don't know why so many people here do not see the danger.

[The_Duke]

People, please... There is no such thing as an "official" client in an open-source project. There might be a dominant client that is more popular than the others, but surely for software to be official, it would have to be closed-source?

Most of bitcoiners don't audit changes in the most popular client. Even if someone finds a backdoor and announces here, most of bitcoiners won't pay attention, they'll be listening to "The Bitcoin Foundation". That's why involvement of Gavin into "TBF" is very dangerous.

This.

(at above poster: I stole your sig )

[Come-from-Beyond]

(at above poster: I stole your sig )

The same.

[IIOII]

(at above poster: I stole your sig )

The same.

You're welcome. 

Let's show at least the new members that not all people here are worshipping the same gods.

Bitcoin is not a institution/corporation/old pal's club!

[benjamindees]

I don't know why so many people here do not see the danger.

Frankly, I don't either.  I'd like to think that many of the early adopters are just hopelessly naive.  I can understand that many are blinded by greed.  But, at this point,  this constant seeking of approval and official recognition for Bitcoin can only be described as willful ignorance.  Only a handful remain in any position of authority who seem to have a serious grasp of the legal and philosophical issues surrounding Bitcoin, at least to the extent that Satoshi clearly did.

As for this forum, well, there are a few trolls here;  not as many as there once were, but a few.

But, for others, who knows.  It's been clear to me for almost a year now that the developers have, at the very least, been threatened over their role in Bitcoin.  Now, with "legitimate" businesses waving around the potential of millions of dollars in funding, we see a carrot as well.  I was holding out some hope that such crude tactics would not be effective.  But, I must admit, it is waning.

[cedivad]

People, please... There is no such thing as an "official" client in an open-source project. There might be a dominant client that is more popular than the others, but surely for software to be official, it would have to be closed-source?

Most of bitcoiners don't audit changes in the most popular client. Even if someone finds a backdoor and announces here, most of bitcoiners won't pay attention, they'll be listening to "The Bitcoin Foundation". That's why involvement of Gavin into "TBF" is very dangerous.

Why should ne harm the bitcoin project? Why should the bitcoin foundation be somehow corrupted? Sorry but I don't get it.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Most of bitcoiners don't audit changes in the most popular client. Even if someone finds a backdoor and announces here, most of bitcoiners won't pay attention, they'll be listening to "The Bitcoin Foundation". That's why involvement of Gavin into "TBF" is very dangerous.

Why should ne harm the bitcoin project? Why should the bitcoin foundation be somehow corrupted? Sorry but I don't get it.

He is a human.

[cedivad]

Most of bitcoiners don't audit changes in the most popular client. Even if someone finds a backdoor and announces here, most of bitcoiners won't pay attention, they'll be listening to "The Bitcoin Foundation". That's why involvement of Gavin into "TBF" is very dangerous.

Why should ne harm the bitcoin project? Why should the bitcoin foundation be somehow corrupted? Sorry but I don't get it.

He is a human.

Ok, but how should he profit? What are you afraid of?
Unfixed exploits?

[drekk]

I'm totally failing to see the point this thread tries to make.

[phantastisch]

The amount of tinfoilhat-wearers in this forum is too damn high.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Ok, but how should he profit? What are you afraid of?
Unfixed exploits?

I'm affraid that he will put a code that let CIA to track every satoshi sent thru Bitcoin network. I bet in a few months "TBF" will announce that they issue trust certificates for merchants using Bitcoin or something similar.

Every transaction is stored in the blockchain. Once CIA manage to connect ur address with ur real identity - u'll be on their hook.

[Come-from-Beyond]

The amount of tinfoilhat-wearers in this forum is too damn high.

The amount of asslickers as well.

[Bitcoin Oz]

Ok, but how should he profit? What are you afraid of?
Unfixed exploits?

I'm affraid that he will put a code that let CIA to track every satoshi sent thru Bitcoin network. I bet in a few months "TBF" will announce that they issue trust certificates for merchants using Bitcoin or something similar.

Every transaction is stored in the blockchain. Once CIA manage to connect ur address with ur real identity - u'll be on their hook.

Mt Gox already does this.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Ok, but how should he profit? What are you afraid of?
Unfixed exploits?

I'm affraid that he will put a code that let CIA to track every satoshi sent thru Bitcoin network. I bet in a few months "TBF" will announce that they issue trust certificates for merchants using Bitcoin or something similar.

Every transaction is stored in the blockchain. Once CIA manage to connect ur address with ur real identity - u'll be on their hook.

Mt Gox already does this.

Aye. That's why I trade using 10 mtgox accounts, so it looks like 10 different ppl operate with small amounts.

[greyhawk]

I'm affraid that he will put a code that let CIA to track every satoshi sent thru Bitcoin network.

blockchain.info is a CIA front

[Bitcoin Oz]

Ok, but how should he profit? What are you afraid of?
Unfixed exploits?

I'm affraid that he will put a code that let CIA to track every satoshi sent thru Bitcoin network. I bet in a few months "TBF" will announce that they issue trust certificates for merchants using Bitcoin or something similar.

Every transaction is stored in the blockchain. Once CIA manage to connect ur address with ur real identity - u'll be on their hook.

Mt Gox already does this.

Aye. That's why I trade using 10 mtgox accounts, so it looks like 10 different ppl operate with small amounts.

Thats why I have 0 Mt Gox accounts

[marcus_of_augustus]

It would not take much to turn bitcoin into the greatest honey-pot ever devised ... particularly if the eaves-dropping party had db's of large portions of users other Internet traffic to correlated with bitcoin traffic.

The resistance to strong anonymity being developed at the protocol level has always bothered me, saying that, it is a tough problem though.

[Bitcoin Oz]

It would not take much to turn bitcoin into the greatest honey-pot ever devised ... particularly if the eaves-dropping party had db's of large portions of users other Internet traffic to correlated with bitcoin traffic.

The resistance to strong anonymity being developed at the protocol level has always bothered me, saying that, it is a tough problem though.

There arent many core bitcoin devs who are anarchists 

[IIOII]

The amount of tinfoilhat-wearers in this forum is too damn high.

The amount of asslickers as well.

Just wanted to say the same.  

It is plain dumb to ignore the abusive potential that comes from a minority-controlled central entity that proclaims to push Bitcoin forward by openly admitting that Bitcoin is safer when it adheres to the principles of governmental regulation. Even if we assume that the members of The Bitcoin Foundation-club do not originally intent such, they serve as a perfect gateway for authoritarian control of the Bitcoin project.

In addition I have a bad feeling about the way they present themselves at their club - like heros from the corporate headquarter. I know a lot of successful projects where the founders do not engage in such a personality cult.

[Bitcoin Oz]

If moralfags like Luke-Jr wouldnt kill it with 51% attacks an anarcoin would be good.