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September 28, 2012, 01:18:13 PM
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I think a potential danger is from politics, any kind of organization is facing this problem after the technology has reached certain level of complexity. Keep the client/protocol simple and stable is very important



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September 28, 2012, 01:23:32 PM
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In some ways, I can understand and agree what the OP is saying. But the bottom line is Satoshi took off and he left his project to the group. If he truly wanted his vision reached then his ass should have stuck around. As much as I would like to see the original "founder" here to keep us on track with his vision, we are stuck with Gavins vision. Hopefully it remains healthy for us all!
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September 28, 2012, 01:31:30 PM
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Well if the are going to leave Satoshi the founding seat on The Foundation board so could always just show up long enough to dissolve TBF out of existence and then disappear again .... just for laughs.

Hey I just noticed TBF is only a T away from being TBTF (too big too fail)

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September 28, 2012, 01:37:27 PM
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Some of you are sincere morons.  So not only is every government everywhere and everyone in power out to get everyone else but the developers of bitcoin are out to get you too.  I bet big media is out to get you too (well okay, it is, lol). Who isn't out to get you or an evil conspiracy leader?

For all the dumbass conspiracy nuts, here, let me explain you to you.  You're obsessed with the feeling of superiority over others by knowing something they don't or being able to figure something out that they couldn't.  Because of that, you see conspiracies everywhere and no matter what, the majority is ALWAYS wrong and you're ALWAYS right because that makes you feel special.  Take a pill and get off the forums, you fucktard wastes of space.

For the record, we need a limited amount of centralization to get bitcoin running and popularize it.  Without that it'd be chaos.  As soon as the system is widespread enough to not benefit from basically 1 giant controlling party, it will grow way out of their control regardless.  So no worries.
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September 28, 2012, 01:55:32 PM
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Some of you are sincere morons.

Constructive! Does it include yourself? Or do you consider yourself to be superior over others?

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You're obsessed with the feeling of superiority over others by knowing something they don't or being able to figure something out that they couldn't.

Ah, glad you know the psychological phenomenon you are suffering from Tongue

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For the record, we need a limited amount of centralization to get bitcoin running and popularize it. 

For the record, no we don't.

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September 28, 2012, 03:30:22 PM
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The fact is I want Satoshi back. He made this thing and I want him to represent it.


But if he never comes back, or is dead already, bitcoin has done well on its own. The power
is in the idea, which has taken off.


Bitcoin is following the "rules":

http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2011/11/bitcoin.html
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September 28, 2012, 03:37:48 PM
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I am against change without clear and comprehensive oversight.

Isn't that what the Foundation is there to provide?

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September 28, 2012, 03:47:09 PM
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Some of you are sincere morons.  So not only is every government everywhere and everyone in power out to get everyone else but the developers of bitcoin are out to get you too.  I bet big media is out to get you too (well okay, it is, lol). Who isn't out to get you or an evil conspiracy leader?

For all the dumbass conspiracy nuts, here, let me explain you to you.  You're obsessed with the feeling of superiority over others by knowing something they don't or being able to figure something out that they couldn't.  Because of that, you see conspiracies everywhere and no matter what, the majority is ALWAYS wrong and you're ALWAYS right because that makes you feel special.  Take a pill and get off the forums, you fucktard wastes of space.

For the record, we need a limited amount of centralization to get bitcoin running and popularize it.  Without that it'd be chaos.  As soon as the system is widespread enough to not benefit from basically 1 giant controlling party, it will grow way out of their control regardless.  So no worries.

The idea of a few people "representing" millions of other people is bogus and just leads to bad outcomes.

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September 28, 2012, 03:53:05 PM
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The idea of a few people "representing" millions of other people is bogus and just leads to bad outcomes.

Hee hee the old Democracy versus Republic debate. (Assuming by republic we mean voting for reps not on issues and by democracy we mean voting on actual issues, that is.)

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September 28, 2012, 04:16:31 PM
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Also, it seems Satoshi had something for online wallets. Something Gavin isn't really excited about.

New users wouldn't really even need the Bitcoin software.  They could download a miner, create an account on mtgox or mybitcoin, enter their deposit address into the miner and point it at anyone's pool server.  When the miner says it found something, a while later a few coins show up in their account.

That's pretty much what I do with PPCoin since I can't figure out the command-line client for spit.

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September 28, 2012, 04:26:50 PM
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The fact is I want Satoshi back. He made this thing and I want him to represent it.

Be careful what you wish for. If Satoshi returns, you might find his decisions to be worse than Gavin's. I know I disagreed with him on some things.

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September 28, 2012, 04:32:40 PM
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The fact is I want Satoshi back. He made this thing and I want him to represent it.

I thought you were against having a single person, or small elitist group, representing and acting as an authority over Bitcoin and OUR money?    Cheesy
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September 29, 2012, 04:53:41 AM
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The fact is I want Satoshi back. He made this thing and I want him to represent it.

I thought you were against having a single person, or small elitist group, representing and acting as an authority over Bitcoin and OUR money?    Cheesy

I think it would be somewhat detrimental for Satoshi to 'return' and influence Bitcoin.
The fact that it is completely and utterly irrelevant 'who created bitcoin' is a major psychological selling point, which his/her/their return - would potentially compromise.
(Due to, for example, the excessive ability to influence/veto/override decisions by taking advantage of fawning religious-like admiration from the likes of Atlas - though hopefully the community as a whole is smarter than that)

I often say things to the effect - that it wouldn't matter if Bitcoin was created by the CIA, Mossad, Al-Qaeda or Batman.

Ding Dong Satoshi's dead!  (or preferably, enjoying well-earned hookers n blow - yay!)

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September 29, 2012, 06:42:44 AM
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Ding Dong Satoshi's dead!  (or preferably, enjoying well-earned hookers n blow - yay!)

Shouldn't be hard to tell.. How many of the first 1M coins have moved? And did any of them go to 1Dky? lol

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September 29, 2012, 06:47:07 AM
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I actually wasn't around the forums and stuff for several months and now I come back and I sincerely have no clue what the Bitcoin Foundation is Tongue is that a good enough sign? lol.  What do they do, donate bitcoins to orphans? Tongue
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September 29, 2012, 07:13:37 AM
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There is nothing in this world that isn't compromisable, this is just something you have to come to terms with. Bitcoin won't be around forever, but it's working great at the moment.
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September 30, 2012, 10:27:15 PM
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Ok, but how should he profit? What are you afraid of?
Unfixed exploits?
I'm affraid that he will put a code that let CIA to track every satoshi sent thru Bitcoin network. I bet in a few months "TBF" will announce that they issue trust certificates for merchants using Bitcoin or something similar.

Every transaction is stored in the blockchain. Once CIA manage to connect ur address with ur real identity - u'll be on their hook.
Dear CIA! My Bitcoin address is 1Aiq9FYv12GQjM9LeBHoNq9c3FfFaA4GTA please send few bitcoins to poor hacker and terrorist living in third world country so I can purchase drugs and maybe some explosives with these bitcoins.

You probably know that the bitcoin address can be generated easily and it can be linked to other random addresses when making transaction. Hope this will help CIA to determine if the transaction is going to payment for weapons or I'm just bored and play with instawallet or some other mixing service.

Please also send me few pictures of naked Obama next to F-19 Aurora.

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May 07, 2016, 03:05:30 PM
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Bumping a 4 y old topic as an excuse of parroting fags reporting dead cringe shit in newly created reddit thread. Seriously, who gives a fuck about andresen's involement when everyone knows he had met with cia before btc became what its now yet nobody has cared to revoke his access to github repo for a long while Satoshi must be kleiman and deceased from an uncurable disease lying onto a lump of fecali and old stuff sprinkled by his urine why would a deadman care about someone he gave keys long before andresen made it out of his infancy as a core contrbutor
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May 07, 2016, 05:17:12 PM
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If you believe the entire episode with Craig Wright is a huge FARCE, as I do, then there is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that Satoshi is dead. Satoshi remains anonymous. Thank you for creating Bitcoin Satoshi.

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May 07, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
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Also, it seems Satoshi had something for online wallets. Something Gavin isn't really excited about.

New users wouldn't really even need the Bitcoin software.  They could download a miner, create an account on mtgox or mybitcoin, enter their deposit address into the miner and point it at anyone's pool server.  When the miner says it found something, a while later a few coins show up in their account.

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