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July 30, 2015, 03:06:21 PM |
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Politicians using taxes to take wealth from poor to rich, only bitcoin can change that. What do you think?
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AtheistAKASaneBrain
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July 30, 2015, 03:10:39 PM |
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Politicians using taxes to take wealth from poor to rich, only bitcoin can change that. What do you think?
Somewhat true in most cases, because sadly the taxes are in a ton of times used by politicians for their personal use, usually involving fraud, cocaine and expensive prostitution. Can Bitcoin save us from taxes? I don't think so tho, as long as governments exist, they will want to regulate everything, including BTC. You can't live off BTC alone. If you buy a property the state will know you bought it because it's on several records. |
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July 30, 2015, 03:19:56 PM
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i'm against tax since ever, but not because they are legal stealing like you said, well maybe this is true in part, but because they are not transparent at all
i want to know for what my money that i send to them for this tax garbage are used, they should only be used to help the city growth and not to pay politicians like it usually happen...
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pitham1
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July 30, 2015, 03:21:21 PM |
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Politicians using taxes to take wealth from poor to rich, only bitcoin can change that. What do you think?
Tax evasion using bitcoins is still tax evasion. So bitcoin can't reduce taxes for people who want to play by the rules. |
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RodeoX
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July 30, 2015, 03:25:25 PM |
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Yeah, I hate it when thieves break into my house, steal my money; then use it to build roads, pay firefighters, and educate my kids. Fricken thieves.
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July 30, 2015, 03:35:33 PM |
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You didn't finish your thought.
When I ordered a round of beers at the pub last night, the tax came to about 100 millies. I don't feel this was robbery, in fact i was eager to pay the tax to support the establishment. If there is an institution you speak of that for which you are not eager to pay the tab, then name it. Otherwise you aren't saying anything specific enough to comment on.
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July 30, 2015, 03:37:25 PM |
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I am not completely against the taxing system but some countries are really abusing it and that is because their companies suck at manifacturing/innovation/sales.
So mr. president says, if you dumbasses don't produce anything valuable at all, then you have to pay extra moni for anything luxury you consume (like big cars, expensive jewelry bla bla bla) and more moni from everything you gain.
Tbh, i support taxes on luxury consumptions but income taxes?? No sir. That is my money. Stay the fuck away from it.
Max income tax percentage should be %20.
%10 from low gainers, %20 from whales. And that is because i am nice.
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July 30, 2015, 04:04:01 PM |
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i'm against tax since ver, but not because they are legal stealing like you said, well maybe this is true in part, but because they are not transparent at all
i want to know for what my money that i send to them for this tax garbage are used, they should only be used to help the city grow and not to pay politicians like it usually happen...
Hopefully in the future politicians will be forced to use a public Bitcoin address where we can see where all our funds go for. This would be ideal and would end corruption. Of course i doubt this will ever happen, who is going to force them to do so? They will simply get rid of cash and keep running their closed credits system, a dream for the corrupt elite, not even cash will make people free in next decade. |
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July 30, 2015, 04:47:40 PM |
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I am not against taxes as long as I am able to see that money from it are being used in a good way. I am tired of government wasting money and 'investing' it in a bad way.
Authorities behave like these money are theirs to waste on anything. I don't like that my money are used in a wrong way...
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RodeoX
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July 30, 2015, 04:58:29 PM |
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I am with you guys who think our taxes are often wasted, or spent on the wrong stuff. But the basic idea of taxation is a good one as long as the proceeds go toward the common good. IMO it's not robbery (yet) in the U.S., just poor governance.
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bojan92
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July 30, 2015, 05:10:32 PM |
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Yes the taxes are ripping us off. The big amounts of money collected with the taxes are used for our best sake, but also there is percentage that goes in the pockets of the politicians. That is the harsh truth, we vote them to represent us and they still our money.
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RodeoX
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July 30, 2015, 08:14:45 PM |
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Yeah, I hate it when thieves break into my house, steal my money; then use it to build roads, pay firefighters, and educate my kids. Fricken thieves.
Are you socialist? Those thing can be paid without taxes Some socialist ideas make sense to me. It's situational. If I lived with 100 people on an island I think it would works fine, but socialism does not scale well, IMO. But mostly I'm not an anarchist. I have had the displeasure of living in an anarchy. Now could those things happen without taxes. Somewhat. Firefighting was a pay for use service in the U.S. 100 years ago. If you did not pay the firehouse, your house burned down. This system was replaced by public firefighting all over the world because it is better. Same with policing. You can have private police, but they are not going to enforce the law, just the laws their sponsors want. Private roads were also normal in the past. Which is why so few traveled in the 19th. century. The roads were not coordinated and it was extremely hard to even leave the county you were born in. When public highways emerged it was a key part of exploding the economy. Same with free public education. More than most any other factor it moved millions of people out of poverty and transformed our country for the better. That is because there is no model for profitably educating the poor. How would they pay? You may feel oppressed for paying taxes, but you would still pay. And you would still be oppressed. Without a government some other entity would fill the vacuum and simply take whatever they wanted from you. I know I would. I would kill anyone in my way and offer an AK-47 and a percentage of the loot to anyone who will join my raids. I would sell slaves, demand tribute, you would not like me.  |
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July 30, 2015, 09:25:03 PM |
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I'm not entirely sure how Bitcoin is nontaxable.
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July 30, 2015, 10:24:53 PM |
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i would like to know where the taxes i pay are spent soo maybe a blockhain or bitcoins could explain where government spent it,but wont happen politicians wont let that happen 100 % transparecen wont happen never they show what they wanna to show.
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misterycoins
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July 30, 2015, 11:20:16 PM |
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Politicians using taxes to take wealth from poor to rich, only bitcoin can change that. What do you think?
you're probably not going to convince a lot of people that taxing is robbery. that's an incredibly extreme point of view that is completely at odds with living in a developed industrial nation. |
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July 30, 2015, 11:26:26 PM |
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Please, not all taxes are legalized robberies!
I accept taxes to keep the streets safe and clean. The problem is that a very little part of the taxes I'm paying actually end up financing things I support. Just look at some public schools which turn good kids into socialist w*nkers who'll spend their entire lives begging for state money.
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I used to be a citizen and a taxpayer. Those days are long gone.
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CEG5952
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July 30, 2015, 11:28:05 PM |
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Politicians using taxes to take wealth from poor to rich, only bitcoin can change that. What do you think?
Nothing new here. Especially in my country. It's an open source of robbery if you'd ask me. They're everywhere even on the smallest things. |
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Miracal
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July 31, 2015, 08:58:10 AM |
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There are people out there who believe that bitcoin can help them avoid tax but that's false. You need to pay tax of bitcoin too whenever a taxing event occurs. Bitcoins are taxed as capital gains, usually. Capital gains is taxed depending on how long you’ve held the asset. If you’ve had the asset for a year or less then it’s a short-term capital gain. If you’ve held the asset for more than a year then you have a long-term capital gain.
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Mickeyb
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July 31, 2015, 09:24:49 AM |
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Politicians using taxes to take wealth from poor to rich, only bitcoin can change that. What do you think?
I am not sure bitcoin will change that. Countries will want to tax bitcoin as well as any Fiat money out there if they are going to recognize us. We will have to comply with their laws. If we reject this, than they will make us illegal. I am really not sure what is the best thing to do. Taxes are among us since forever, this is the way politicians live. Can we really stop taxes altogether? I don't believe so. Very tricky question! |
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HarHarHar9965
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July 31, 2015, 11:09:31 AM |
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Politicians using taxes to take wealth from poor to rich, only bitcoin can change that. What do you think?
I am not sure bitcoin will change that. Countries will want to tax bitcoin as well as any Fiat money out there if they are going to recognize us. We will have to comply with their laws. If we reject this, than they will make us illegal. I am really not sure what is the best thing to do. Taxes are among us since forever, this is the way politicians live. Can we really stop taxes altogether? I don't believe so. Very tricky question! The important question is why is everybody looking out to avoid taxes? if one want to revolutionize taxation and currencies, why not amend rules regarding taxation and currencies altogether? Also, there is already rules and regulations regarding taxes and most of us already do pay taxes when a transaction takes place, other than that they are treated as capital gains. There is a more detailed explanations on the internet, give it a read |
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