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August 06, 2015, 02:22:59 AM |
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After some bids/talking around I'm trying to get $47,000. I can also teach you how to generate your own assets for a bit more profit, but it would take further investment into computing power -- which is completely optional -- and scalable to fit almost any starting budget. Remember, you are getting life time support here -- and a business-like-minded individual friend who does stuff like this for a living. This would add an estimated $500-$1000+/monthly profit easy. If you want 47K out of the website and it generates $500 min monthly then yearly you would be earning 6K Thats 3.91-7.83 years just to get your money back
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 06, 2015, 03:17:05 AM Last edit: August 06, 2015, 04:20:50 AM by ProfessionalGoogler |
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After some bids/talking around I'm trying to get $47,000. I can also teach you how to generate your own assets for a bit more profit, but it would take further investment into computing power -- which is completely optional -- and scalable to fit almost any starting budget. Remember, you are getting life time support here -- and a business-like-minded individual friend who does stuff like this for a living. This would add an estimated $500-$1000+/monthly profit easy. If you want 47K out of the website and it generates $500 min monthly then yearly you would be earning 6K Thats 3.91-7.83 years just to get your money back $2000-4000/month is the main profit without extra investments after purchase. $500-$1000/month is optional extra profit with extra investments. 0.78 years - 1.95 years payback but I predict more like 5-6 months -- even quicker than this if you advertise better. Of course I also accept offers to adjust the math.
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ranlo
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August 06, 2015, 05:54:57 AM |
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I want to reach out and state that if the site earns what OP claims it does, his price is along the lines of what would be expected. His calculations I saw earlier in the thread are spot on. Again, this is all assuming he's being honest about the site's earnings.
OP, if you'd be willing, you can send me the URL/verifying data (to show earnings over the past 12-24mo (longer is better)). I'll treat it as if we have an NDA (i.e., all information you send me is confidential). I will then report back to the thread with my personal findings/evaluation (without giving away specifics).
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 06, 2015, 06:04:31 AM |
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I want to reach out and state that if the site earns what OP claims it does, his price is along the lines of what would be expected. His calculations I saw earlier in the thread are spot on. Again, this is all assuming he's being honest about the site's earnings.
OP, if you'd be willing, you can send me the URL/verifying data (to show earnings over the past 12-24mo (longer is better)). I'll treat it as if we have an NDA (i.e., all information you send me is confidential). I will then report back to the thread with my personal findings/evaluation (without giving away specifics).
Perhaps you could act as a escrow if you are trusted on this forum. It would be the escrow job to collect the offer/payment in BTC and obtain everything including the domain name. Then this information would be further verified and the escrow would then transfer everything to the buyer and BTC to the seller minus what ever the escrow charges. I offer to pay all escrow fees.
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ranlo
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August 06, 2015, 06:07:51 AM |
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I want to reach out and state that if the site earns what OP claims it does, his price is along the lines of what would be expected. His calculations I saw earlier in the thread are spot on. Again, this is all assuming he's being honest about the site's earnings.
OP, if you'd be willing, you can send me the URL/verifying data (to show earnings over the past 12-24mo (longer is better)). I'll treat it as if we have an NDA (i.e., all information you send me is confidential). I will then report back to the thread with my personal findings/evaluation (without giving away specifics).
Perhaps you could act as a escrow if you are trusted on this forum. It would be the escrow job to collect the offer/payment in BTC and obtain everything including the domain name. Then this information would be further verified and the escrow would then transfer everything to the buyer and BTC to the seller minus what ever the escrow charges. I offer to pay all escrow fees.While I'm definitely reputable (and many would undoubtedly vouch for me), I'm really not feeling comfortable enough with handling escrows at this point. There's a failure point with regards to being an escrow that I just can't push myself to risk it with (i.e., "I sent you everything and now you're claiming you didn't get it," or false claims from one side against the other that I'd have to arbitrate through). It just seems like if something went wrong, I'd essentially be risking my reputation, which I'm not comfortable doing.
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 06, 2015, 06:10:01 AM |
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I want to reach out and state that if the site earns what OP claims it does, his price is along the lines of what would be expected. His calculations I saw earlier in the thread are spot on. Again, this is all assuming he's being honest about the site's earnings.
OP, if you'd be willing, you can send me the URL/verifying data (to show earnings over the past 12-24mo (longer is better)). I'll treat it as if we have an NDA (i.e., all information you send me is confidential). I will then report back to the thread with my personal findings/evaluation (without giving away specifics).
Perhaps you could act as a escrow if you are trusted on this forum. It would be the escrow job to collect the offer/payment in BTC and obtain everything including the domain name. Then this information would be further verified and the escrow would then transfer everything to the buyer and BTC to the seller minus what ever the escrow charges. I offer to pay all escrow fees.While I'm definitely reputable (and many would undoubtedly vouch for me), I'm really not feeling comfortable enough with handling escrows at this point. There's a failure point with regards to being an escrow that I just can't push myself to risk it with (i.e., "I sent you everything and now you're claiming you didn't get it," or false claims from one side against the other that I'd have to arbitrate through). It just seems like if something went wrong, I'd essentially be risking my reputation, which I'm not comfortable doing. Nothing could go wrong if you obtain and verify assets from both sides. Agreements from both sides would agree to certain terms for the verification process. -- Like a YES/NO check list.
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ranlo
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August 06, 2015, 06:23:16 AM |
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I want to reach out and state that if the site earns what OP claims it does, his price is along the lines of what would be expected. His calculations I saw earlier in the thread are spot on. Again, this is all assuming he's being honest about the site's earnings.
OP, if you'd be willing, you can send me the URL/verifying data (to show earnings over the past 12-24mo (longer is better)). I'll treat it as if we have an NDA (i.e., all information you send me is confidential). I will then report back to the thread with my personal findings/evaluation (without giving away specifics).
Perhaps you could act as a escrow if you are trusted on this forum. It would be the escrow job to collect the offer/payment in BTC and obtain everything including the domain name. Then this information would be further verified and the escrow would then transfer everything to the buyer and BTC to the seller minus what ever the escrow charges. I offer to pay all escrow fees.While I'm definitely reputable (and many would undoubtedly vouch for me), I'm really not feeling comfortable enough with handling escrows at this point. There's a failure point with regards to being an escrow that I just can't push myself to risk it with (i.e., "I sent you everything and now you're claiming you didn't get it," or false claims from one side against the other that I'd have to arbitrate through). It just seems like if something went wrong, I'd essentially be risking my reputation, which I'm not comfortable doing. Nothing could go wrong if you obtain and verify assets from both sides. Agreements from both sides would agree to certain terms for the verification process. -- Like a YES/NO check list. Ahhh, got you. I think I could handle that then, if a buyer is interested.
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 06, 2015, 06:27:44 AM |
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I want to reach out and state that if the site earns what OP claims it does, his price is along the lines of what would be expected. His calculations I saw earlier in the thread are spot on. Again, this is all assuming he's being honest about the site's earnings.
OP, if you'd be willing, you can send me the URL/verifying data (to show earnings over the past 12-24mo (longer is better)). I'll treat it as if we have an NDA (i.e., all information you send me is confidential). I will then report back to the thread with my personal findings/evaluation (without giving away specifics).
Perhaps you could act as a escrow if you are trusted on this forum. It would be the escrow job to collect the offer/payment in BTC and obtain everything including the domain name. Then this information would be further verified and the escrow would then transfer everything to the buyer and BTC to the seller minus what ever the escrow charges. I offer to pay all escrow fees.While I'm definitely reputable (and many would undoubtedly vouch for me), I'm really not feeling comfortable enough with handling escrows at this point. There's a failure point with regards to being an escrow that I just can't push myself to risk it with (i.e., "I sent you everything and now you're claiming you didn't get it," or false claims from one side against the other that I'd have to arbitrate through). It just seems like if something went wrong, I'd essentially be risking my reputation, which I'm not comfortable doing. Nothing could go wrong if you obtain and verify assets from both sides. Agreements from both sides would agree to certain terms for the verification process. -- Like a YES/NO check list. Ahhh, got you. I think I could handle that then, if a buyer is interested. I opened a thread below -- for escrow offers from trusted members of this forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1145330.0
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Starin
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August 07, 2015, 11:34:38 PM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 08, 2015, 01:23:44 AM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
WoW was just an example and no. Also that has not effected the WoW market for profit for those who understand it best.
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ranlo
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August 08, 2015, 01:29:26 AM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
WoW was just an example and no. Also that has not effected the WoW market for profit for those who understand it best. Not to mention there's only ~2.8m real players regardless. The rest are dual-boxers, bots and farmers. At least, that's the ratio back when there were 13.2m. The recent drops don't tell anything -- it could be 50% of the players that left, 50% of the bots, or a mixture of the two. For example, when FFXI started banning bots proactively, their subscriber base plummeted. But their real player base grew.
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 08, 2015, 02:01:26 AM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
WoW was just an example and no. Also that has not effected the WoW market for profit for those who understand it best. Not to mention there's only ~2.8m real players regardless. The rest are dual-boxers, bots and farmers. At least, that's the ratio back when there were 13.2m. The recent drops don't tell anything -- it could be 50% of the players that left, 50% of the bots, or a mixture of the two. For example, when FFXI started banning bots proactively, their subscriber base plummeted. But their real player base grew. This sort of stuff just effects the bottors/farmers. The markets go through adjustments. (like real world economies) Marketing plays a bigger role. (and staying adaptive is key)
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ranlo
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August 08, 2015, 02:04:57 AM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
WoW was just an example and no. Also that has not effected the WoW market for profit for those who understand it best. Not to mention there's only ~2.8m real players regardless. The rest are dual-boxers, bots and farmers. At least, that's the ratio back when there were 13.2m. The recent drops don't tell anything -- it could be 50% of the players that left, 50% of the bots, or a mixture of the two. For example, when FFXI started banning bots proactively, their subscriber base plummeted. But their real player base grew. This sort of stuff just effects the bottors/farmers. The markets go through adjustments. (like real world economies) Marketing plays a bigger role. (and staying adaptive is key) I'm a huge game marketer myself, :p. I just meant that his data was worthless. It doesn't give anything of use and does nothing to show whether the game will weather over the years, or will grow as a result of change.
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 08, 2015, 02:13:47 AM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
WoW was just an example and no. Also that has not effected the WoW market for profit for those who understand it best. Not to mention there's only ~2.8m real players regardless. The rest are dual-boxers, bots and farmers. At least, that's the ratio back when there were 13.2m. The recent drops don't tell anything -- it could be 50% of the players that left, 50% of the bots, or a mixture of the two. For example, when FFXI started banning bots proactively, their subscriber base plummeted. But their real player base grew. This sort of stuff just effects the bottors/farmers. The markets go through adjustments. (like real world economies) Marketing plays a bigger role. (and staying adaptive is key) I'm a huge game marketer myself, :p. I just meant that his data was worthless. It doesn't give anything of use and does nothing to show whether the game will weather over the years, or will grow as a result of change. Yup.
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Starin
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August 08, 2015, 10:54:19 AM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
WoW was just an example and no. Also that has not effected the WoW market for profit for those who understand it best. Not to mention there's only ~2.8m real players regardless. The rest are dual-boxers, bots and farmers. At least, that's the ratio back when there were 13.2m. The recent drops don't tell anything -- it could be 50% of the players that left, 50% of the bots, or a mixture of the two. For example, when FFXI started banning bots proactively, their subscriber base plummeted. But their real player base grew. This sort of stuff just effects the bottors/farmers. The markets go through adjustments. (like real world economies) Marketing plays a bigger role. (and staying adaptive is key) I'm a huge game marketer myself, :p. I just meant that his data was worthless. It doesn't give anything of use and does nothing to show whether the game will weather over the years, or will grow as a result of change. Well, I know 2 sellers closed their shops because of the decline and you guys forgot to count Asian players, who mainly play pay for hour. If you look at the ownedcore markets, the selling is declining too. Either way, WoW is not the money maker for Blizzard anymore thus it's markets will and is declining. Can't speak for the other games, but it looks like they are making good profits through Heartstone, Destiny and HotS. Anyway, good luck with your sale.
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 09, 2015, 02:53:20 AM |
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If WoW is your mainstream profit maker, might I add that is in it's biggest decline at the moment. Lost %50 of its subscribers in the last 2 quarters.
WoW was just an example and no. Also that has not effected the WoW market for profit for those who understand it best. Not to mention there's only ~2.8m real players regardless. The rest are dual-boxers, bots and farmers. At least, that's the ratio back when there were 13.2m. The recent drops don't tell anything -- it could be 50% of the players that left, 50% of the bots, or a mixture of the two. For example, when FFXI started banning bots proactively, their subscriber base plummeted. But their real player base grew. This sort of stuff just effects the bottors/farmers. The markets go through adjustments. (like real world economies) Marketing plays a bigger role. (and staying adaptive is key) I'm a huge game marketer myself, :p. I just meant that his data was worthless. It doesn't give anything of use and does nothing to show whether the game will weather over the years, or will grow as a result of change. Well, I know 2 sellers closed their shops because of the decline and you guys forgot to count Asian players, who mainly play pay for hour. If you look at the ownedcore markets, the selling is declining too. Either way, WoW is not the money maker for Blizzard anymore thus it's markets will and is declining. Can't speak for the other games, but it looks like they are making good profits through Heartstone, Destiny and HotS. Anyway, good luck with your sale. Anyone using ownedcore forums as an example doesn't understand this market.
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gongomanny
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August 12, 2015, 05:23:25 PM |
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I know the main reason you are selling is for upfront money, but perhaps you would accept the payment in installments? I know many people may not have 36k in disposable income at the moment, but could probably pay it over the course of a couple months.
Also, is the c/o of 70BTC something you're still considering or is it too low?
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ProfessionalGoogler (OP)
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August 13, 2015, 01:45:52 AM |
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I know the main reason you are selling is for upfront money, but perhaps you would accept the payment in installments? I know many people may not have 36k in disposable income at the moment, but could probably pay it over the course of a couple months.
Also, is the c/o of 70BTC something you're still considering or is it too low?
No installments would be accepted, otherwise pointless to sell in the first place. I consider all offers, but at this time I would not accept 70 BTC as that is far too low to let this go.
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