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September 11, 2015, 05:58:39 AM
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Very cliche, probably stated in this thread at least a few hundred times (lol), martingale. Most betting sites let you bet satoshi's at a time, so unless you flat out go on a 10+ losing streak, you can make money in short term. However, I'd only bet small amounts. I've been on dice sites too many times starting at .1 BTC trying to use the martingale strategy and I've hit some EXTREMELY bad losing streaks. Doubling your initial bet adds up very quickly, so start extremely low. Nothing above .01 imo.

Playing using martiangle eventually will lose. I'm ever doing martiangle with BTC 0.01 start from 1 satoshi. Guess what  Grin I'm let it bet with auto play for 30 minutes. First glance, I'm getting some profit but I'm looking for 2x profit so I let it bet for next 1/2 hour and finally house beat me down


That's why I suggest using it only for small amounts, adjusting to your own budget. Martingale will only earn you small amounts. If you set it on auto-bet you will lose 100 percent of the time, no matter what. You need to do it only in short bursts. Get a small bit of BTC, and cash out. If you expect to make multiple times your investment, martingale isn't for you.
what happens if you just lose the first 10 bets in a row as soon as you start then hmm? martingale isnt a strategy because it doesnt work, its something casinos make money off of when people dont know better and think that martingale will net them profit, that's why they have autobet features on there.

Losing first 10 bets is very common but most people think that after losing a bet or two, they can martingale their way out of the losses and break-even.

The strategy people use here is losing 10 times in a row on 50/50 and then betting that in the next 10 bets there will be more winners then losers.

10 losses in a row has a pretty low chance of happening, but its bound to happen eventually. the latter part of your post is known as gambler's fallacy, and is probably what leads to addiction and people digging themselves further down the hole theyve dug for themselves. unfortunately, the world doesnt maintain the balance of yin/yang when it comes to gambling as often as people would like.

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September 11, 2015, 06:20:19 AM
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Very cliche, probably stated in this thread at least a few hundred times (lol), martingale. Most betting sites let you bet satoshi's at a time, so unless you flat out go on a 10+ losing streak, you can make money in short term. However, I'd only bet small amounts. I've been on dice sites too many times starting at .1 BTC trying to use the martingale strategy and I've hit some EXTREMELY bad losing streaks. Doubling your initial bet adds up very quickly, so start extremely low. Nothing above .01 imo.

Playing using martiangle eventually will lose. I'm ever doing martiangle with BTC 0.01 start from 1 satoshi. Guess what  Grin I'm let it bet with auto play for 30 minutes. First glance, I'm getting some profit but I'm looking for 2x profit so I let it bet for next 1/2 hour and finally house beat me down


That's why I suggest using it only for small amounts, adjusting to your own budget. Martingale will only earn you small amounts. If you set it on auto-bet you will lose 100 percent of the time, no matter what. You need to do it only in short bursts. Get a small bit of BTC, and cash out. If you expect to make multiple times your investment, martingale isn't for you.
what happens if you just lose the first 10 bets in a row as soon as you start then hmm? martingale isnt a strategy because it doesnt work, its something casinos make money off of when people dont know better and think that martingale will net them profit, that's why they have autobet features on there.

Losing first 10 bets is very common but most people think that after losing a bet or two, they can martingale their way out of the losses and break-even.

The strategy people use here is losing 10 times in a row on 50/50 and then betting that in the next 10 bets there will be more winners then losers.

10 losses in a row has a pretty low chance of happening, but its bound to happen eventually. the latter part of your post is known as gambler's fallacy, and is probably what leads to addiction and people digging themselves further down the hole theyve dug for themselves. unfortunately, the world doesnt maintain the balance of yin/yang when it comes to gambling as often as people would like.

so if we mrtingle for 50 rolls only nd strt with  BTC ,then we cn mke some good profits ??
but cn lso get fucked (chnces r low)
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September 11, 2015, 06:28:26 AM
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playing dice game or gambling with it, almost likely lost everytime.
but some of strategies are spread away in the google.
such as martingale, reverse martingale etc. and many more,
and almost all gamblers already know this,. well this is usually
or originally use in roullete... but all i can say is never stick to one strategy.
it is better for you to use the chaos strategy. but it is difficult to understand to
normal people... Smiley oh well goodluck. when you won, stop it already.. Tongue

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September 11, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
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Very cliche, probably stated in this thread at least a few hundred times (lol), martingale. Most betting sites let you bet satoshi's at a time, so unless you flat out go on a 10+ losing streak, you can make money in short term. However, I'd only bet small amounts. I've been on dice sites too many times starting at .1 BTC trying to use the martingale strategy and I've hit some EXTREMELY bad losing streaks. Doubling your initial bet adds up very quickly, so start extremely low. Nothing above .01 imo.

Playing using martiangle eventually will lose. I'm ever doing martiangle with BTC 0.01 start from 1 satoshi. Guess what  Grin I'm let it bet with auto play for 30 minutes. First glance, I'm getting some profit but I'm looking for 2x profit so I let it bet for next 1/2 hour and finally house beat me down


That's why I suggest using it only for small amounts, adjusting to your own budget. Martingale will only earn you small amounts. If you set it on auto-bet you will lose 100 percent of the time, no matter what. You need to do it only in short bursts. Get a small bit of BTC, and cash out. If you expect to make multiple times your investment, martingale isn't for you.
what happens if you just lose the first 10 bets in a row as soon as you start then hmm? martingale isnt a strategy because it doesnt work, its something casinos make money off of when people dont know better and think that martingale will net them profit, that's why they have autobet features on there.

Losing first 10 bets is very common but most people think that after losing a bet or two, they can martingale their way out of the losses and break-even.

The strategy people use here is losing 10 times in a row on 50/50 and then betting that in the next 10 bets there will be more winners then losers.

10 losses in a row has a pretty low chance of happening, but its bound to happen eventually. the latter part of your post is known as gambler's fallacy, and is probably what leads to addiction and people digging themselves further down the hole theyve dug for themselves. unfortunately, the world doesnt maintain the balance of yin/yang when it comes to gambling as often as people would like.

so if we mrtingle for 50 rolls only nd strt with  BTC ,then we cn mke some good profits ??
but cn lso get fucked (chnces r low)
the chances are rather high imo as people tend to leave the autobet on thinking martingale will work for them indefinitely, which is completely untrue. sooner or later, probability says that you will go bust through a series of long red hits. assuming you start out with something ridiculous like a 10 satoshi bet, you might see some short term profit,, but that's just in the short term. with dice, theres no long term strategy that will work with the house edge in play.

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September 11, 2015, 06:51:33 AM
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Very cliche, probably stated in this thread at least a few hundred times (lol), martingale. Most betting sites let you bet satoshi's at a time, so unless you flat out go on a 10+ losing streak, you can make money in short term. However, I'd only bet small amounts. I've been on dice sites too many times starting at .1 BTC trying to use the martingale strategy and I've hit some EXTREMELY bad losing streaks. Doubling your initial bet adds up very quickly, so start extremely low. Nothing above .01 imo.

Playing using martiangle eventually will lose. I'm ever doing martiangle with BTC 0.01 start from 1 satoshi. Guess what  Grin I'm let it bet with auto play for 30 minutes. First glance, I'm getting some profit but I'm looking for 2x profit so I let it bet for next 1/2 hour and finally house beat me down


That's why I suggest using it only for small amounts, adjusting to your own budget. Martingale will only earn you small amounts. If you set it on auto-bet you will lose 100 percent of the time, no matter what. You need to do it only in short bursts. Get a small bit of BTC, and cash out. If you expect to make multiple times your investment, martingale isn't for you.
what happens if you just lose the first 10 bets in a row as soon as you start then hmm? martingale isnt a strategy because it doesnt work, its something casinos make money off of when people dont know better and think that martingale will net them profit, that's why they have autobet features on there.

Losing first 10 bets is very common but most people think that after losing a bet or two, they can martingale their way out of the losses and break-even.

The strategy people use here is losing 10 times in a row on 50/50 and then betting that in the next 10 bets there will be more winners then losers.

10 losses in a row has a pretty low chance of happening, but its bound to happen eventually. the latter part of your post is known as gambler's fallacy, and is probably what leads to addiction and people digging themselves further down the hole theyve dug for themselves. unfortunately, the world doesnt maintain the balance of yin/yang when it comes to gambling as often as people would like.

so if we mrtingle for 50 rolls only nd strt with  BTC ,then we cn mke some good profits ??
but cn lso get fucked (chnces r low)
the chances are rather high imo as people tend to leave the autobet on thinking martingale will work for them indefinitely, which is completely untrue. sooner or later, probability says that you will go bust through a series of long red hits. assuming you start out with something ridiculous like a 10 satoshi bet, you might see some short term profit,, but that's just in the short term. with dice, theres no long term strategy that will work with the house edge in play.

Doesn't always work short-term, either. I was doing bets at 1.02x on a provably fair site and hit a 5-streak loss within the first few minutes.

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September 11, 2015, 07:47:58 AM
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Very cliche, probably stated in this thread at least a few hundred times (lol), martingale. Most betting sites let you bet satoshi's at a time, so unless you flat out go on a 10+ losing streak, you can make money in short term. However, I'd only bet small amounts. I've been on dice sites too many times starting at .1 BTC trying to use the martingale strategy and I've hit some EXTREMELY bad losing streaks. Doubling your initial bet adds up very quickly, so start extremely low. Nothing above .01 imo.

Playing using martiangle eventually will lose. I'm ever doing martiangle with BTC 0.01 start from 1 satoshi. Guess what  Grin I'm let it bet with auto play for 30 minutes. First glance, I'm getting some profit but I'm looking for 2x profit so I let it bet for next 1/2 hour and finally house beat me down


yes i know but what i mean is .. starting with  btc bet and ending on  bets total ...

as u r using bigger stakes u can get around 10 + coins profit in the seccion and also lesser chance to get 10= reds also..

That's why I suggest using it only for small amounts, adjusting to your own budget. Martingale will only earn you small amounts. If you set it on auto-bet you will lose 100 percent of the time, no matter what. You need to do it only in short bursts. Get a small bit of BTC, and cash out. If you expect to make multiple times your investment, martingale isn't for you.
what happens if you just lose the first 10 bets in a row as soon as you start then hmm? martingale isnt a strategy because it doesnt work, its something casinos make money off of when people dont know better and think that martingale will net them profit, that's why they have autobet features on there.

Losing first 10 bets is very common but most people think that after losing a bet or two, they can martingale their way out of the losses and break-even.

The strategy people use here is losing 10 times in a row on 50/50 and then betting that in the next 10 bets there will be more winners then losers.

10 losses in a row has a pretty low chance of happening, but its bound to happen eventually. the latter part of your post is known as gambler's fallacy, and is probably what leads to addiction and people digging themselves further down the hole theyve dug for themselves. unfortunately, the world doesnt maintain the balance of yin/yang when it comes to gambling as often as people would like.

so if we mrtingle for 50 rolls only nd strt with  BTC ,then we cn mke some good profits ??
but cn lso get fucked (chnces r low)
the chances are rather high imo as people tend to leave the autobet on thinking martingale will work for them indefinitely, which is completely untrue. sooner or later, probability says that you will go bust through a series of long red hits. assuming you start out with something ridiculous like a 10 satoshi bet, you might see some short term profit,, but that's just in the short term. with dice, theres no long term strategy that will work with the house edge in play.

Doesn't always work short-term, either. I was doing bets at 1.02x on a provably fair site and hit a 5-streak loss within the first few minutes.
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September 11, 2015, 08:17:15 AM
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Maybe there's a way to cheat in Dice games? Anybody knows if this is possible  Huh

exploiting the dice site is one way and actually this happened to primedice before, there's a guy on pd that made couple of thousands by exploting pd, i forgot what's his name though

That person is called "Hufflepuff" and has used some other accounts on Primedice such as "RobbinHood", "Nappa" and "Kane". If you are interested, you may want to check https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d for the official report by Stunna.

Many gambling sites have been hacked in the past, such as Dragon's Tale (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392.msg9626729#msg9626729) and FastSlots/Fastbets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786142.msg11004931#msg11004931) to name a few.

Having said that, it is in fact very unethical to exploit a bug, and also it is very hard for an ordinary user to find a bug, exploit it and leave no trace.


TL;DR: Forget it. You can't do it.

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September 11, 2015, 08:44:02 AM
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Maybe there's a way to cheat in Dice games? Anybody knows if this is possible  Huh

exploiting the dice site is one way and actually this happened to primedice before, there's a guy on pd that made couple of thousands by exploting pd, i forgot what's his name though

That person is called "Hufflepuff" and has used some other accounts on Primedice such as "RobbinHood", "Nappa" and "Kane". If you are interested, you may want to check https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d for the official report by Stunna.

Many gambling sites have been hacked in the past, such as Dragon's Tale (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392.msg9626729#msg9626729) and FastSlots/Fastbets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786142.msg11004931#msg11004931) to name a few.

Having said that, it is in fact very unethical to exploit a bug, and also it is very hard for an ordinary user to find a bug, exploit it and leave no trace.


TL;DR: Forget it. You can't do it.
i dont hink OP ever meant to HACK anything ..
AFAIK he was referring to strategies like martingale ..etc.
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September 11, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
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Very cliche, probably stated in this thread at least a few hundred times (lol), martingale. Most betting sites let you bet satoshi's at a time, so unless you flat out go on a 10+ losing streak, you can make money in short term. However, I'd only bet small amounts. I've been on dice sites too many times starting at .1 BTC trying to use the martingale strategy and I've hit some EXTREMELY bad losing streaks. Doubling your initial bet adds up very quickly, so start extremely low. Nothing above .01 imo.

Playing using martiangle eventually will lose. I'm ever doing martiangle with BTC 0.01 start from 1 satoshi. Guess what  Grin I'm let it bet with auto play for 30 minutes. First glance, I'm getting some profit but I'm looking for 2x profit so I let it bet for next 1/2 hour and finally house beat me down


That's why I suggest using it only for small amounts, adjusting to your own budget. Martingale will only earn you small amounts. If you set it on auto-bet you will lose 100 percent of the time, no matter what. You need to do it only in short bursts. Get a small bit of BTC, and cash out. If you expect to make multiple times your investment, martingale isn't for you.
what happens if you just lose the first 10 bets in a row as soon as you start then hmm? martingale isnt a strategy because it doesnt work, its something casinos make money off of when people dont know better and think that martingale will net them profit, that's why they have autobet features on there.

Losing first 10 bets is very common but most people think that after losing a bet or two, they can martingale their way out of the losses and break-even.

The strategy people use here is losing 10 times in a row on 50/50 and then betting that in the next 10 bets there will be more winners then losers.

10 losses in a row has a pretty low chance of happening, but its bound to happen eventually. the latter part of your post is known as gambler's fallacy, and is probably what leads to addiction and people digging themselves further down the hole theyve dug for themselves. unfortunately, the world doesnt maintain the balance of yin/yang when it comes to gambling as often as people would like.

10 losses in a row is pretty high for me thats why I always stop it when it near 8 or 9 losses in a row. This gambling moreover dice is really depends on luck and some balance too. Sometimes with a good balance you will end up some cash too
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September 11, 2015, 12:50:34 PM
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There is no strategy in dice. One just need to hope that they are lucky with a winning streak before they cash out from the dice site. Dice and casino games are designed to make all players lose in the long run so you may be lucky and win something but if you keep playing then you will loose all of your money at end.
There is no real strategy in dice game just luck required if you are unlucky then please stay away.
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September 11, 2015, 03:26:19 PM
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There is no strategy in dice. One just need to hope that they are lucky with a winning streak before they cash out from the dice site. Dice and casino games are designed to make all players lose in the long run so you may be lucky and win something but if you keep playing then you will loose all of your money at end.
There is no real strategy in dice game just luck required if you are unlucky then please stay away.


There is strategy in dice sites. The problem is how long will this strategy stay and how much can you earn from this strategy. It will really depends on your luck and your greediness. Btw how can you define your unlucky? You wont even know when you are lucky or not if you are not trying
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you need luck,not strategy.. lol
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September 11, 2015, 11:46:11 PM
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There is no strategy in dice. One just need to hope that they are lucky with a winning streak before they cash out from the dice site. Dice and casino games are designed to make all players lose in the long run so you may be lucky and win something but if you keep playing then you will loose all of your money at end.
There is no real strategy in dice game just luck required if you are unlucky then please stay away.

this exactly. i really dont understand why people cant seem to grasp the part bolded. anyone who says there is a "guaranteed strategy" or "profitable martingale" or some other bs is delusional. gambling is about pure chance when there is no skill involved and the games are vs the house. the only time when gambling can be profitable in the long run is when it is player vs player, where skill is a factor.

There is strategy in dice sites.
no.

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September 12, 2015, 12:07:10 AM
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you need luck,not strategy.. lol

That is only true when you don't play as much. But we are talking about stragiest after taking > 10,000 of rolls or so and trying to get an edge to make an income. This is where probability help us.
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September 12, 2015, 05:03:42 AM
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try to use diff strategy each time you play dice..

to avoid house of edge...and back to luck again...no one can survive in the long run..

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September 12, 2015, 06:56:17 AM
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you need luck,not strategy.. lol

Yeah luck is the thing we need in all gambling site, but without some strategy you wont get some cash to earn. Sometimes this strategy will lead you into loss and sometimes win so it depends on your luck too so strategy play a role too in gambling like dice
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September 12, 2015, 08:20:14 AM
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you need luck,not strategy.. lol

That is only true when you don't play as much. But we are talking about stragiest after taking > 10,000 of rolls or so and trying to get an edge to make an income. This is where probability help us.

You won't find a strategy because you'll hit the maximum bet and/or the maximum win at some point, after which you're unable to re-gain your losses since you can't bet more than they'll allow.

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September 18, 2015, 12:57:08 PM
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you need luck,not strategy.. lol

That is only true when you don't play as much. But we are talking about stragiest after taking > 10,000 of rolls or so and trying to get an edge to make an income. This is where probability help us.

You won't find a strategy because you'll hit the maximum bet and/or the maximum win at some point, after which you're unable to re-gain your losses since you can't bet more than they'll allow.

In fact, there isn´t any strategy at all!
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September 23, 2015, 09:00:48 PM
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you need luck,not strategy.. lol

That is only true when you don't play as much. But we are talking about stragiest after taking > 10,000 of rolls or so and trying to get an edge to make an income. This is where probability help us.

No, it doesnt? The more you play the closer you will get to the odds, really the more you play the more chances you have to lose.

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September 24, 2015, 04:00:31 AM
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Well, I lost my first million satoshi by using martingale  in a extreme lost streak of 20 bad rolls.  A losing testing play which taught me that there's no strategy at all but pure random luck.
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