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October 01, 2012, 09:33:55 AM
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What will happen to all the "traditional" mines once the new ASIC based miners hit the market?

Apologies if there is already a thread on this but I searched and couldn't find it easily. I'm a slow reader Smiley

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October 01, 2012, 10:40:26 AM
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October 01, 2012, 02:00:01 PM
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lol @ greyhawk Smiley

so, market forces will just kill traditional GPU based mining pretty much overnight unless ASIC based is all just a scam?

i really do feel for those that have invested into GPU based mines although i suspect their investment is already paid back if they got into it early enough

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October 01, 2012, 02:11:41 PM
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so, market forces will just kill traditional GPU based mining pretty much overnight unless ASIC based is all just a scam?

There are many different ASIC development companies, it's implausible that all of them are scams. It's just a pretty straightforward but challenging process.

i really do feel for those that have invested into GPU based mines although i suspect their investment is already paid back if they got into it early enough

"if" is the key word. I suspect most mining operations have been a net loss, and it's probably a good indicator.

By the way, check out this thread. CoinLab is developing a platform that will rent your GPU for various tasks and pay you in BTC.
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October 01, 2012, 03:16:56 PM
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so, market forces will just kill traditional GPU based mining pretty much overnight unless ASIC based is all just a scam?

There are many different ASIC development companies, it's implausible that all of them are scams. It's just a pretty straightforward but challenging process.

i really do feel for those that have invested into GPU based mines although i suspect their investment is already paid back if they got into it early enough

"if" is the key word. I suspect most mining operations have been a net loss, and it's probably a good indicator.

By the way, check out this thread. CoinLab is developing a platform that will rent your GPU for various tasks and pay you in BTC.


I haven't seen that one before. Anyone had any luck using that pool? Seems like a neat idea to make some more money off my existing hardware.

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October 01, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
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October 01, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
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I haven't seen that one before. Anyone had any luck using that pool? Seems like a neat idea to make some more money off my existing hardware.

I've been using it for some time now. It's a very big challenge, I hope they succeed.
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October 01, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
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so, market forces will just kill traditional GPU based mining pretty much overnight unless ASIC based is all just a scam?

Other than CoinLab or other similar mining pools, it's quite probable most GPU mining will cease. There's no way even many of the top GPU rigs would be able to keep up with the power ASICs bring to the table.

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October 01, 2012, 04:42:35 PM
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we will see a flood of ATI GPU`s on ebay for sale.

and a lot of bitcoiners will end up with a big paypal balance  Grin
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October 01, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
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What will happen to all the "traditional" mines once the new ASIC based miners hit the market?

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...it's quite probable most GPU mining will cease. There's no way even many of the top GPU rigs would be able to keep up with the power ASICs bring to the table.

I couldn't said it better myself.

lol @greyhawk ; nice find.

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October 01, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
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Many people claim to have free electricity, or is a gamer so won't stop his GPU.

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October 01, 2012, 07:39:01 PM
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Many people claim to have free electricity, or is a gamer so won't stop his GPU.

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If i'm mining with 150GH/s of ASICs, why would I both doubling my power consumption for a measly 700MH/s from my 7970? Even if I did have free electric, the heat isn't worth the pennies I'll make in a day.

I can't wait for ASICs so I can turn my gaming computer off!

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October 01, 2012, 07:40:15 PM
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I'm surprised not more people are using Coinlab to hedge their GPU mining.
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October 01, 2012, 07:49:48 PM
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Many people claim to have free electricity, or is a gamer so won't stop his GPU.

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If i'm mining with 150GH/s of ASICs, why would I both doubling my power consumption for a measly 700MH/s from my 7970? Even if I did have free electric, the heat isn't worth the pennies I'll make in a day.

I can't wait for ASICs so I can turn my gaming computer off!

I agree, I have only have one GPU and I've ordered a couple of jalapeños, when received I'll stop mining with my GPU, even with free electricity, PC components will suffer working 24/7, and will not be payed with so little profit.

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October 01, 2012, 08:11:40 PM
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If i'm mining with 150GH/s of ASICs, why would I both doubling my power consumption for a measly 700MH/s from my 7970? Even if I did have free electric, the heat isn't worth the pennies I'll make in a day.

Exactly. And as vitruvio pointed out, even with free power, running your GPU 24/7 at near max power (or even overclocked) is far from beneficial to the hardware. Don't burn out the hardware in your sexy gaming PC just for a few more MH/s!  Cheesy

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October 01, 2012, 08:27:52 PM
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If i'm mining with 150GH/s of ASICs, why would I both doubling my power consumption for a measly 700MH/s from my 7970? Even if I did have free electric, the heat isn't worth the pennies I'll make in a day.

Exactly. And as vitruvio pointed out, even with free power, running your GPU 24/7 at near max power (or even overclocked) is far from beneficial to the hardware. Don't burn out the hardware in your sexy gaming PC just for a few more MH/s!  Cheesy

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October 01, 2012, 08:30:19 PM
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so, market forces will just kill traditional GPU based mining pretty much overnight unless ASIC based is all just a scam?

There are many different ASIC development companies, it's implausible that all of them are scams. It's just a pretty straightforward but challenging process.

Interesting tell me more.
It may be just that.
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October 01, 2012, 08:37:02 PM
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Judgement day perhaps?
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October 01, 2012, 08:41:35 PM
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Judgement day perhaps?

This!

On topic, I have sold all my GPU rigs and moved on to ASICs.

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October 02, 2012, 12:57:15 AM
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I'm surprised not more people are using Coinlab to hedge their GPU mining.
I'm not, they have stated their goal is distributed processing on nvidia hardware - ati wont be optimum for the work they are planning. 
99.99% of gpus on Bitcoin are ATI...


on topic my 6950s have well paid for themselves and I have sold the good ones off, my 7970s I could sell and they would cover their cost i.e. earnt Bitcoin + resale value
I have 2 FPGA that will run after I turn off GPUs, not sure if they will cover their costs, but being dev boards I can sell them to someone not planning to Bitcoin mine on them when thier time comes.
I was lucky enough to win a spot in the jalepeno que on a raffle - never trusted BFL enough to send them money, but gambling a few coins in a raffle? no worries Wink
I did order a bASIC and look forward to turning off my hot GPU's now that (my) summer is rapidly approaching Smiley

from what I see a lot of "traditional" mines are either stopping mining or moving to next generation mining hardware, everyone has their own situation to consider - hey, even today people still mine Bitcoins on CPU, I am sure in 6 months time there will be "free power" people claiming gpus still make them Bitcoins. which for the returns defies sense Smiley

The big change I see coming is newer miners wont be able to jump in and try on existing hardware, mining has brought a lot of people to Bitcoin, soon they will need to buy dedicated hardware to participate.

my 0.0000002BTC worth Smiley

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