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April 30, 2020, 01:07:02 PM
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Man, does anyone else thinks that if Man City were the league leaders, the PL would've been canceled a long time ago? Mostly because a lot of teams would've pushed for it being voided since everyone hates City and petrodollars winning silverware  Lips sealed

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/29/premier-leagues-project-restart-what-is-it-and-is-it-feasible

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That is thought to include plans for players and officials being placed in lockdown at nominated hotels for up to six weeks. Each one would then travel to the stadium along a “sterile route” from the hotel before being tested.
Ok, this is just dumb. A "sterile route"? Really now?  Cheesy They can just use the same 'ol route, i mean, this isn't Chernobyl, or it's not like the bus is gonna pick someone randomly in the middle of road.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-man-utd-news-18175163

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The Premier League has advised its clubs, including Manchester City and Manchester United, to ensure that their players are back in the country as football looks to step up a return to action.

How did any of the players get out of the country in the first place?
the PL was "suspended" on March 13th but it wasn't until March 23th that the govt enforced a nationwide lockdown, so some players had plenty of time to return to their home countries.

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April 30, 2020, 05:13:28 PM
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Premier league seems to be one of the latest championships that is going to be continued.
In my opinion, players are going to start trainings at least the individual ones in the near future but the games are going to start again probably end of May - start of June.

At least it gives us something to look forward to in these boring times. I think I’m going made stuck in the house.

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April 30, 2020, 06:14:06 PM
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300 people a game makes sense a bit, you are underestimating the number of staff required for a team, between two teams it will be just 30+ people of players, with staff of coaches and trainers and physios and so forth they are going to have at least another 30-40 people there, and their employees as well, like assistants and so forth, and then you have stuff like from bus driver to maintenance at the stadiums to security and many other stuff, you can't just keep the players in stadium with 5 security, people will swarm there, so that means a lot of security as well.

So, 300 makes sense for each game. However I agree that travelling is not making any sense, since there is no fans watching there, there is really no home court, so maybe they could pick one place and play there.
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April 30, 2020, 07:02:34 PM
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German League to restart in a couple of weeks
Italian League planning to restart
EPL teams supposedly returning to training in a couple of weeks
The German government is still working on this time to continue the Bundesliga match and as such in the future they will make the right decision.
Hopefully there are no obstacles at that moment.

It is still rumored whether the Italian league will continue because covid19 there is indeed worst right now but maybe if the security is so tight this season it can be resumed.

Hear news like that that the club from EPL will soon practice, hopefully this will quickly start the EPL season.

LaLiga there is no clear info.

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April 30, 2020, 09:54:35 PM
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If the sporting matches are resumed they will have to go through strict controls ranging from tests, games without fans but they are not excepted that the fans wait for them outside the stadiums and the danger of contagion is latent. On the other hand, there is talk of a great economic loss of great concern, it is not easy because health must prevail for all.

Premier League wrestles with 'Project Restart' (30.04.2020)
https://www.worldfootball.net/news/_n4033324_/premier-league-wrestles-with-project-restart/

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May 01, 2020, 03:08:36 AM
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If the sporting matches are resumed they will have to go through strict controls ranging from tests, games without fans but they are not excepted that the fans wait for them outside the stadiums and the danger of contagion is latent. On the other hand, there is talk of a great economic loss of great concern, it is not easy because health must prevail for all.

Premier League wrestles with 'Project Restart' (30.04.2020)
https://www.worldfootball.net/news/_n4033324_/premier-league-wrestles-with-project-restart/

The Premier League season is hanging by a thread as pressure is mounting on the premier league organisers regarding players safety, and for this they’re planning to declare the results of the players within 48 hours which is a positive development in my personal opinion. Furthermore there’re concerns between various clubs to play at rivals grounds as they fear they’ll loose their home ground advantage, and this is a big concern which need to be addressed before this season can begin once again.

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52443200

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52478598

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8275809/Coronavirus-test-results-planned-fast-tracked-Premier-League.html


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May 01, 2020, 04:48:55 AM
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If the sporting matches are resumed they will have to go through strict controls ranging from tests, games without fans but they are not excepted that the fans wait for them outside the stadiums and the danger of contagion is latent. On the other hand, there is talk of a great economic loss of great concern, it is not easy because health must prevail for all.

Premier League wrestles with 'Project Restart' (30.04.2020)
https://www.worldfootball.net/news/_n4033324_/premier-league-wrestles-with-project-restart/

The same situation that we are undergoing right now is going to happen in autumn.
There will be very danger for the public health at that period of time as well.
If leagues will not start now - then I am sure that next seasons are not going to start on time as well.
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May 01, 2020, 07:30:43 AM
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See there is a "project restart"

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But with the English top-flight facing an eye-watering estimated loss of £1 billion ($1.25 billion) if no more football is played, there is a huge incentive to play the 92 remaining games if feasible.

The Premier League also appears to have the support of the government in Britain, which now has the third-highest death toll in the world from COVID-19.

Speaking in parliament last week, Oliver Dowden, Britain's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Secretary, said he had been in talks with league chiefs over getting football up and running again.

and there's the money too.


My friend is reliable to me and not a guy from the internet Wink (although I accept your point that's all I am)  if his friend is told they will be going back to train/work I trust him. Also I still said things change.
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May 01, 2020, 07:52:28 AM
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See there is a "project restart"

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But with the English top-flight facing an eye-watering estimated loss of £1 billion ($1.25 billion) if no more football is played, there is a huge incentive to play the 92 remaining games if feasible.

The Premier League also appears to have the support of the government in Britain, which now has the third-highest death toll in the world from COVID-19.

Speaking in parliament last week, Oliver Dowden, Britain's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Secretary, said he had been in talks with league chiefs over getting football up and running again.

and there's the money too.


My friend is reliable to me and not a guy from the internet Wink (although I accept your point that's all I am)  if his friend is told they will be going back to train/work I trust him. Also I still said things change.

I'm growing pessimistic daily about a successful restart happening, and I don't think it will happen at all, really! IMHO, It's a no brainier to restart the league by June, with no clear cut measures on curbing the Covid-19 spread.

As you've pointed out, there are solely motivated by the bottom, and a restart would simply there is no regard for the public health or players welfare, in as much as they get to fulfill their TV Rights obligations.

I miss football and would love to see it return, but not when it's not safe at all.

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May 01, 2020, 08:11:23 AM
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I think you can look at it 2 ways.

Pessimistic = no chance no way no safety no hope

Optimistic = I am standing with 200 people at the supermarket. Have been for a month. We aren't all dead yet.



If people in Tesco's and Walmart can still have to go to work with each other everyday and be around the PUBLIC MASSES then I am sure there is a way they can test 30 people and have a fairly well controlled situation.




For me the problem arises if they make a focal point for fans to gather around. Like in pubs before (now it would round a friends with Sky or something)

That's why they need to be free to air, to discourage a premiere restart party around peoples houses.



TV is running out of shows they can make about Covid19 and its affect on X or Y
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May 01, 2020, 09:03:43 AM
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If people in Tesco's and Walmart can still have to go to work with each other everyday and be around the PUBLIC MASSES then I am sure there is a way they can test 30 people and have a fairly well controlled situation


Actually this is kinda unrelated to EPL but yeah let me point few things about your mistake

It is good being optimistic but those people who works on store that provides basic necessities needs to open most of the time to avoid mass panic of the country

That being said, they need their worker. It is not about wether they got everything under control but rather they have to keep on being operational to not start a chaos within a country

Imagine what sort of things would happen if none of these stores open during pandemic, you wont be able to get all your necessities

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May 01, 2020, 09:23:14 AM
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If people in Tesco's and Walmart can still have to go to work with each other everyday and be around the PUBLIC MASSES then I am sure there is a way they can test 30 people and have a fairly well controlled situation


It is good being optimistic but those people who works on store that provides basic necessities needs to open most of the time to avoid mass panic of the country


would add that stores are essential, in the means of people living out in this situation, because of most of us do not have enough food for two months at home in each moment, and Premier league is not an essential thing for people to survive, it is good for fun and interesting to watch and people go to football matches, but everyone can live without, this is why they will postpone it until sure that virus is controllable or we have a cure/vaccine for it
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May 01, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
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The PL is going to get finished whether fans of teams who have nothing to play for like it or not.

Italian clubs just voted to finish Serie A, the PL will follow.




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May 01, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
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The PL is going to get finished whether fans of teams who have nothing to play for like it or not.

Italian clubs just voted to finish Serie A, the PL will follow.


Despite of some unknown solutions for leagues if after resumes with matches, there are players have positive tests. How to keep leagues going well and how to give solutions for clubs have positive players and their competitors. It is a very challenging question but leagues should be resumed and after one, two or three fixtures, we might see how it will go. At least the current season does not have too many unplayed matches.

Let's assume there will be positive players after next three fixtures finished, and PL will be postponed at least 2 weeks, I think we will still have open window to finish the season.
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If people in Tesco's and Walmart can still have to go to work with each other everyday and be around the PUBLIC MASSES then I am sure there is a way they can test 30 people and have a fairly well controlled situation.

You can be around a public mass and be extremely cautious of making contact, maintaining reasonable distance and using a face mask, e.t.c, but how do you do that as Laporte or Toby Alderweireld with Salah or Aguero charging on you ? Do you think of preventing a goal or preventing yourself from a potential virus, It will be more about their mental health than it will be about the game itself.



The PL is going to get finished whether fans of teams who have nothing to play for like it or not.

Italian clubs just voted to finish Serie A, the PL will follow.



They players voted to finish league despite to Covid-19 Situation but not amid the Covid-19 the situation, I'd guess, Do you have a source to the full update, please ?

I'm also down for getting all leagues concluded, not matter how long we have to wait for, but I just hate to see it happen during this peak of the outbreak at all cost with almost zero guarantee of the players safety and mental health.

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May 01, 2020, 02:18:34 PM
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If people in Tesco's and Walmart can still have to go to work with each other everyday and be around the PUBLIC MASSES then I am sure there is a way they can test 30 people and have a fairly well controlled situation.
This comparison is not necessary, essential services have to be done regardless of the world situation, but this cannot be applied to every sector, judging by this every service with less than 30 people involved would make an argument to restart their business.
Both players, clubs, and fans are keen on seeing football resume but it should not be a gamble, you have to be able to ensure the players that their safety is assured and it would not have any ripple effect on the populace; some people could begin to reduce the relevance of the lockdown.

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May 01, 2020, 02:20:26 PM
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You can be around a public mass and be extremely cautious of making contact, maintaining reasonable distance and using a face mask, e.t.c,


Understand totally if that was the true reality. But its not, the supermarket is a free for all with idiots everywhere.

Yeah OK they queue up outside two meters apart.


Good luck with that inside. They couldn't seem to care less.


 And you still have people doing a family day out in there. Its quite shocking.


judging by this every service with less than 30 people involved would make an argument to restart their business.


That is what's happening, businesses are begging the government to be allowed to reopen. Its in discussion right now.
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This comparison is not necessary, essential services have to be done regardless of the world situation, but this cannot be applied to every sector, judging by this every service with less than 30 people involved would make an argument to restart their business.
Both players, clubs, and fans are keen on seeing football resume but it should not be a gamble, you have to be able to ensure the players that their safety is assured and it would not have any ripple effect on the populace; some people could begin to reduce the relevance of the lockdown.
What if the pandemic wont's end after the year 2020? What if the pandemic will keep exist next 2 years? If so, will governments and league presidents really want to prohibit leagues next 2 seasons? I don't believe they will react like that. What makes them hesitated so far is they think the pandemic will end in 2020, that is unrealistic, IMO then cancel one season (this one) won't have much bad impacts on the football leagues and the industry.

Unfortunately, it will likely not what we will have. The pandemic will highly exist next one or 2 years, I believe so.
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What if the pandemic wont's end after the year 2020? What if the pandemic will keep exist next 2 years? If so, will governments and league presidents really want to prohibit leagues next 2 seasons? I don't believe they will react like that. What makes them hesitated so far is they think the pandemic will end in 2020, that is unrealistic, IMO then cancel one season (this one) won't have much bad impacts on the football leagues and the industry.

Unfortunately, it will likely not what we will have. The pandemic will highly exist next one or 2 years, I believe so.
This pandemic is not something like a natural disaster that can be resolved in a targeted time. As long as the drug or vaccine cant be found, the incidence may still increase.

If the League continues with the assumption that the government can reduce the number of infections that might occur, then I think worse things can still happen for players, staff, football fans and various other industry sectors.

Cancellation of this season I think is something that can be considered to monitor developments regarding the pandemic and the League can still be continued for next season if the pandemic can be controlled. But for anyone involved in the sports industry, I dont think they will let the cancellation of the season happen because the thing that comes to mind is the deteriorating economy in this industrial sector. Lets hope for the best for all, hopefully staying safe and in control.

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 Thats like a toss up a coin (like the start of the games, god I miss them). You either wait for a cure and start when it happens so that it makes sense to restart, or you do not wait and you start but at the same time, why did you waited this much if you are not going to wait for it? So the teams are basically doing a thing that would help them get better view, wait just enough to see what the situation is like and sense if they could come back while protecting everyone.

 If you ask me if the leagues were not cancelled, just only go to no fans system, they would had a trouble, but they postponed and if they start early june for example they will basically be all prepared for it totally and can play. So I think the waiting time already happened and is enough, just give them one more month and start, they are going to protect the players for sure, I doubt there will be a trouble. Plus summer is 3 months long, I am sure they can spread it around as much as they want.

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