Lets play a game of Chess

[languagehasmeaning]

I think I'd rather see us survive as long as possible, maybe go for 1/2-1/2 by getting stalemated or pulling the fifty move rule.

Coming from a chess player, the best chance we have (should we lose a pawn) is either opposite colored bishop ending or rook ending. Keep your eyes peeled for possible queen trades.

Though an endgame will be difficult against an experienced player, if we pool our resources together and pick the best moves, it will eventually turn into a draw.

Both 50 move rule and stalemate are extremely rare at high level.

I did find one very recent example (from World Cup) where 50 move rule should have ended the game until Bruzon blundered at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsHwPYjAPA

[actmyname]

Both 50 move rule and stalemate are extremely rare at high level.

I did find one very recent example (from World Cup) where 50 move rule should have ended the game until Bruzon blundered at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsHwPYjAPA

Reason why they're so rare? This should be obvious, but GMs already know if a game is drawn or not and they'll agree prior to any forced drawing conditions.

[languagehasmeaning]

Both 50 move rule and stalemate are extremely rare at high level.

I did find one very recent example (from World Cup) where 50 move rule should have ended the game until Bruzon blundered at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsHwPYjAPA

Reason why they're so rare? This should be obvious, but GMs already know if a game is drawn or not and they'll agree prior to any forced drawing conditions.

I agree with you. I just posted an interesting example of where it almost happened.

[XMRpromotions]

15. Bc7

You might ignore me since i am just found this thread. I usually play cheese so slow that my opponents gets sleepy. This 1 month game would be perfect for me.

I also play Cheese :-p

I have also looked at that move but it doesn't do that much. It would be better if the bishop could go to b6 after that but his knight defending that field.

I also vote 15. Bc7 because it does do something. If black plays Re8 or Rf8 we have gained time (forced a rook off its ideal file) and can play one of our other ideas

If 15. Bc7 Rdc8 we play 16. Bf4 again.

It may look like we have wasted a move, but we have not. The reason is simple. Black would like to play Rac8 developing his last rook and making room for his queen (Qa8 could be helpful to apply more pressure on the long diagonal).  Basically the goal is to make black move the d8 rook to c8 instead of the a8 rook. After black plays Rdc8 he has zero free squares to move his a8 rook or a7 queen

Of course in the line I proposed black could repeat, but I think a draw by repetition would be good for us here

15. Bc7 Rdc8
16. Bf4  Rd8
17. Bc7 Rdc8
18. Bf4  Rd8

If black does not like this he must find another plan..... and he will not be able to immediately move his a8 rook on c8 and leave his d8 rook on d8 (ideal squares) like he could if we make one of our other proposed moves (15. e4. 15. Rac1, 15. b3 etc)

[actmyname]

15. Bc7

You might ignore me since i am just found this thread. I usually play cheese so slow that my opponents gets sleepy. This 1 month game would be perfect for me.

I also play Cheese :-p

I have also looked at that move but it doesn't do that much. It would be better if the bishop could go to b6 after that but his knight defending that field.

I also vote 15. Bc7 because it does do something. If black plays Re8 or Rf8 we have gained time and can play one of our other ideas

If. 15. Bc7 Rdc8 we play 16. Bf4 again.

It may look like we have wasted a move, but we have not. The reason is simple. Black would like to play Rac8 developing his last rook and making room for his queen (Qa8 could be helpful to apply more pressure on the long diagonal).  Basically the goal is to make black move the d8 rook to c8 instead of the a8 rook. After black plays Rdc8 he has zero free squares to move his a8 rook or a7 queen

Of course in the live I gave below black could repeat, but I think a draw by repetition would be good for us here

15. Bc7 Rdc8
16. Bf4  Rd8
17. Bc7 Rdc8
18. Bf4  Rd8

If black does not like this he must find another plan..... and he will not be able to immediately move his a8 rook on c8 and leave his d8 rook on d8 (ideal squares) like he could if we make one of our other proposed moves (15. e4. 15. Rac1, 15. b3 etc)

Black can push c4 in that position, as well as play a quiet move like h6 and even g5 if he wants to play Rd8

[XMRpromotions]

15. Bc7

You might ignore me since i am just found this thread. I usually play cheese so slow that my opponents gets sleepy. This 1 month game would be perfect for me.

I also play Cheese :-p

I have also looked at that move but it doesn't do that much. It would be better if the bishop could go to b6 after that but his knight defending that field.

I also vote 15. Bc7 because it does do something. If black plays Re8 or Rf8 we have gained time and can play one of our other ideas

If. 15. Bc7 Rdc8 we play 16. Bf4 again.

It may look like we have wasted a move, but we have not. The reason is simple. Black would like to play Rac8 developing his last rook and making room for his queen (Qa8 could be helpful to apply more pressure on the long diagonal).  Basically the goal is to make black move the d8 rook to c8 instead of the a8 rook. After black plays Rdc8 he has zero free squares to move his a8 rook or a7 queen

Of course in the live I gave below black could repeat, but I think a draw by repetition would be good for us here

15. Bc7 Rdc8
16. Bf4  Rd8
17. Bc7 Rdc8
18. Bf4  Rd8

If black does not like this he must find another plan..... and he will not be able to immediately move his a8 rook on c8 and leave his d8 rook on d8 (ideal squares) like he could if we make one of our other proposed moves (15. e4. 15. Rac1, 15. b3 etc)

Black can push c4 in that position, as well as play a quiet move like h6 and even g5 if he wants to play Rd8

I don't see how we can stop c4 forever regardless.

h6 and g5 after (15. Bc7 Rdc8 16. Bf4) does look interesting with the idea of putting his rooks back on their ideal squares (c8 and d8). It does weaken his kingside but I admit I don't see an easy way to take advantage of his pawn structure.

[greenlion]

I think I'd rather see us survive as long as possible, maybe go for 1/2-1/2 by getting stalemated or pulling the fifty move rule.

Coming from a chess player, the best chance we have (should we lose a pawn) is either opposite colored bishop ending or rook ending. Keep your eyes peeled for possible queen trades.

Though an endgame will be difficult against an experienced player, if we pool our resources together and pick the best moves, it will eventually turn into a draw.

Both 50 move rule and stalemate are extremely rare at high level.

I did find one very recent example (from World Cup) where 50 move rule should have ended the game until Bruzon blundered at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsHwPYjAPA

I saved a game once at rated expert club level by claiming threefold repetition, but it was kind of not an obvious case (it was over the course of a lot of moves). The opponent was furious that I made the claim and even accused me of lying, until the TD came over and certified it during a clock stoppage.

[jjacob]

h6 and g5 after (15. Bc7 Rdc8 16. Bf4) does look interesting with the idea of putting his rooks back on their ideal squares (c8 and d8). It does weaken his kingside but I admit I don't see an easy way to take advantage of his pawn structure.

We can evaluate h4 if he plays h6.
Regardless, I don't think Bc7 has sufficient votes.

[languagehasmeaning]

I think I'd rather see us survive as long as possible, maybe go for 1/2-1/2 by getting stalemated or pulling the fifty move rule.

Coming from a chess player, the best chance we have (should we lose a pawn) is either opposite colored bishop ending or rook ending. Keep your eyes peeled for possible queen trades.

Though an endgame will be difficult against an experienced player, if we pool our resources together and pick the best moves, it will eventually turn into a draw.

Both 50 move rule and stalemate are extremely rare at high level.

I did find one very recent example (from World Cup) where 50 move rule should have ended the game until Bruzon blundered at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsHwPYjAPA

I saved a game once at rated expert club level by claiming threefold repetition, but it was kind of not an obvious case (it was over the course of a lot of moves). The opponent was furious that I made the claim and even accused me of lying, until the TD came over and certified it during a clock stoppage.

Congratulations! You opponent should be mad at himself not you. You just counted correctly.  Counting is easier if the repetitions are consecutive instead of spread out over many moves with lots of random maneuvering.

[Taras]

Update, assuming actmyname & languagehasmeaning just voted b3


b3-party is having a comeback!:

Thanks for the graph. I posted it on Twitter

https://twitter.com/ChessBTC/status/646172999905841152

No new votes since this graph. I think e4 is the community's choice

Followed on twitter

[Taras]

Also I made us a postcard so we can mail our grandparents about our soon-to-be victory against a GM

[letsplayagame]

Also I made us a postcard so we can mail our grandparents about our soon-to-be victory against a GM

Your move bitcointalk. You have the white pieces

The current position is updated below:

1. Nf3     d5
2. c4      e6
3. g3      Nf6
4. Bg2    dxc4
5. Qa4+  Nbd7
6. Qxc4   c5
7. 0-0     a6
8. d3      b5
9. Qc2    Bb7
10.Nc3    Be7
11.Bf4     0-0
12.Rfd1   Qb6
13.a4      Rfd8
14.a5      Qa7
15.e4      Rac8

[languagehasmeaning]

16. b3 looks good

We cant actually stop c4 but we can force him to recapture with his pawn instead of his rook.

One possible continuation is

16. b3      c4
17. bxc4   bxc4
18. d4

He will be on the attack but our center pawns are finally looking more aggressively placed

[dre1982]

16. b3 looks good

We cant actually stop c4 but we can force him to recapture with his pawn instead of his rook.

One possible continuation is

16. b3      c4
17. bxc4   bxc4
18. d4

He will be on the attack but our center pawns are finally looking more aggressively placed

Indeed b3 is a good move. with your line is even 18. Ld3 stronger I guess.

[languagehasmeaning]

16. b3 looks good

We cant actually stop c4 but we can force him to recapture with his pawn instead of his rook.

One possible continuation is

16. b3      c4
17. bxc4   bxc4
18. d4

He will be on the attack but our center pawns are finally looking more aggressively placed

Indeed b3 is a good move. with your line is even 18. Ld3 stronger I guess.

What is 18. Ld3?
Do you mean Bishop to e3? I know L means bishop in some languages. We cant move a bishop to d3 but we can move one to e3.

16. b3      c4
17. bxc4   bxc4
18. d4      Bb4 puts pressure on e4 by attacking our knight which defends it. If we have to play e5 then black will have nice d5 square for his knight

I thought some more about your comment (if 18 Ld3 means Be3 somehow). If we want to play Be3 on move 18 then maybe we should play dxc4 on move 17. That way if black captures our pawn he must capture cxb3 and allow Qxb3 which I think is a better square for our queen than if we allow cxd3 and Qxd3.

16. b3      c4
17. dxc4   bxc4
18. Be3    forcing black to retreat his queen or allow us to trade pieces on c5

[Foxpup]

I like 16. h3. Keeps the Black knight away from g4 for 17. Be3.

[fissionerosion]

i want also play someone.

[Timelord2067]

Knight takes pawn on b5 thank you.

[Foxpup]

Knight takes pawn on b5 thank you.

Then pawn takes knight on b5. Please try to think at least one move ahead.

[gotmilk_]

Knight to d2.