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October 06, 2015, 05:50:30 PM
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It's meaningless to "vote on the next move" given how many times participants have said "I wasn't expecting him to do that!"

You are right that some of us have been fooled already in the game, but I think we can predict a simple piece capture if we play Nxd7.

If there are better proposals for the current move I agree we should discuss them before we talk about the next move. I just have not seen any moves that appear to be better than Nxd7 yet.

Have any other ideas for the current move?
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October 06, 2015, 08:10:44 PM
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Just looked at the position some more. We are in trouble
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October 06, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
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I am going to start posting chess problems in this thread. The goal is to find the best continuation. I won't tell you in advance if the best continuation will lead to a win or a draw. Since the skill level in this thread varies greatly I will post problems of varying difficulty. If you are a strong player and the solution is a mate in one, please stay silent and let the beginners solve it. Some of the problems will be from real games or positions that could have occurred in real games. If you recognize the game and remember the solution, let someone else solve it.

Here is the first problem. Black to move. Enjoy

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October 07, 2015, 01:04:41 AM
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By taking his Knight, we allow him a free move of his Rook.

Let him come to us, we get to move our Bishop into the Knight's position.

It's meaningless to "vote on the next move" given how many times participants have said "I wasn't expecting him to do that!"

You are right that some of us have been fooled already in the game, but I think we can predict a simple piece capture if we play Nxd7.

If there are better proposals for the current move I agree we should discuss them before we talk about the next move. I just have not seen any moves that appear to be better than Nxd7 yet.

Have any other ideas for the current move?

My other idea would be to move the Knight 23(a) Nc3 which would block a downward move by his Rook...

and despite what the doom-sayers say, the "a" pawn isn't actually threatened by anything at this point, unless I'm missing something?

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October 07, 2015, 01:31:19 AM
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I am going to start posting chess problems in this thread. The goal is to find the best continuation. I won't tell you in advance if the best continuation will lead to a win or a draw. Since the skill level in this thread varies greatly I will post problems of varying difficulty. If you are a strong player and the solution is a mate in one, please stay silent and let the beginners solve it. Some of the problems will be from real games or positions that could have occurred in real games. If you recognize the game and remember the solution, let someone else solve it.

Here is the first problem. Black to move. Enjoy


I'm stumped, the safest move would be to move the Rook to c8 and blow raspberries at his Queen menacingly.

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October 07, 2015, 02:49:30 AM
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October 07, 2015, 05:45:01 AM
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I'm thinking it might worth looking at the ugly move f3 after he recaptures on d7.

23. Nxd7 Rxd7 24. f3 Rxd3 25.Rxd3 c4 still seems to work.

How about another ugly move? 24.Nc1 maybe? We are not doing well. For those that dislike 23. Nxd7 maybe 23. Nc1 could be another option.

I even looked at 23. Nf3 hoping he would play 23....Nf6 and we could repeat moves but 23. Nf3 c4 looks very good for him. After 24. dxc4 bxc4 we will end up losing our pawn on e4.




Lol indeed, I missed that  Tongue
I don't think we can avoid material loss at this point so we need to at least try and get a little counter play for it. I don't think we have any chance of winning this, I think a draw is the very best we can hope for  Smiley
What do you guys think of this -    23.Nxd7 Rxd7   24.Qd1 Rd8  25.Nc1 c4     then maybe look at ideas with Qg4 threatening Bxh6 (trying to infiltrate his king side with our queen while his is at the other side of the board)
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October 07, 2015, 06:44:42 AM
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Just looked at the position some more. We are in trouble

Indeed we are.

My vote is also for trading.

By the way, since yesterday I am official Chess Teacher 1.  Grin



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October 07, 2015, 10:09:42 AM
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Just looked at the position some more. We are in trouble

Indeed we are.

My vote is also for trading.

By the way, since yesterday I am official Chess Teacher 1.  Grin

That is great! Who are you teaching?

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October 07, 2015, 10:13:17 AM
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I'm thinking it might worth looking at the ugly move f3 after he recaptures on d7.

23. Nxd7 Rxd7 24. f3 Rxd3 25.Rxd3 c4 still seems to work.

How about another ugly move? 24.Nc1 maybe? We are not doing well. For those that dislike 23. Nxd7 maybe 23. Nc1 could be another option.

I even looked at 23. Nf3 hoping he would play 23....Nf6 and we could repeat moves but 23. Nf3 c4 looks very good for him. After 24. dxc4 bxc4 we will end up losing our pawn on e4.




Lol indeed, I missed that  Tongue
I don't think we can avoid material loss at this point so we need to at least try and get a little counter play for it. I don't think we have any chance of winning this, I think a draw is the very best we can hope for  Smiley
What do you guys think of this -    23.Nxd7 Rxd7   24.Qd1 Rd8  25.Nc1 c4     then maybe look at ideas with Qg4 threatening Bxh6 (trying to infiltrate his king side with our queen while his is at the other side of the board)

I like your idea to look for counter-play. I even looked at the crazy move 23.Ng6 fxg6 24. Qxe6+ Kf8 25.Qg6 but it won't work. We need more pieces near his king to mount an effective attack. Your idea seems better than my Ng6 idea. At least we will not lose a Knight right away! I will keep my 23.Nxd7 note

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October 07, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
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We are white in the game against OP and it is our move. If you are asking about the chess problem he just posted, it is black to move. Based on your comment I think you are referring to the puzzle and are suggesting knight to g5 (Ng5 not Kg5) for black. If you do that white will retreat his king to g2 and white is up too much material.

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October 07, 2015, 12:13:16 PM
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Just looked at the position some more. We are in trouble

Indeed we are.

My vote is also for trading.

By the way, since yesterday I am official Chess Teacher 1.  Grin

That is great! Who are you teaching?

I am teaching the kids at our chess club. I have followed a course from the Dutch Chess Association to become a chess teacher. It was the first course, they also got some more courses to even become a better teacher.



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October 07, 2015, 03:41:40 PM
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I am going to start posting chess problems in this thread. The goal is to find the best continuation. I won't tell you in advance if the best continuation will lead to a win or a draw. Since the skill level in this thread varies greatly I will post problems of varying difficulty. If you are a strong player and the solution is a mate in one, please stay silent and let the beginners solve it. Some of the problems will be from real games or positions that could have occurred in real games. If you recognize the game and remember the solution, let someone else solve it.

Here is the first problem. Black to move. Enjoy


I'm stumped, the safest move would be to move the Rook to c8 and blow raspberries at his Queen menacingly.

Some clues:

1. Black can either force checkmate in three moves or force white to give up massive amounts of material to prevent it.
2. If you want to checkmate your opponent, identify possible escape square(s) for their king. Now figure out how to eliminate those escape square(s).
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October 07, 2015, 03:49:52 PM
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My vote for exchanging knights.
Not keeping score though, it seems to be unanimous.


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October 07, 2015, 04:50:41 PM
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Puzzle :  Qxf2 Nxf2   Nf4+ Kh4   Bg5#    if white doesn't capture the Queen then simply Ng5#   (didn't look at your clues either  Tongue)

Would definitely love more puzzles from you  Smiley
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October 07, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
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My vote for exchanging knights.
Not keeping score though, it seems to be unanimous.

Your move bitcointalk. You have the white pieces

The current position is updated below:

23.Nxd7   Rxd7


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Last edit: October 07, 2015, 08:22:49 PM by letsplayagame
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Some clues:

1. Black can either force checkmate in three moves or force white to give up massive amounts of material to prevent it.
2. If you want to checkmate your opponent, identify possible escape square(s) for their king. Now figure out how to eliminate those escape square(s).
3. Dxxlxxxxon



Puzzle :  Qxf2 Nxf2   Nf4+ Kh4   Bg5#    if white doesn't capture the Queen then simply Ng5#   (didn't look at your clues either  Tongue)

Would definitely love more puzzles from you  Smiley

Nice work! By now I am sure some of you realize my third clue was deflection (of whites knight from protecting the f4 square). The above solution is very aesthetically pleasing but some of the readers of this thread may still want to think about how black should respond if white plays Qc1 or Qd2 after black plays Qxf2.

Now that ObscureBean has solved the puzzle, I will provide a link to the game where it could have occurred:
http://chess-db.com/public/game.jsp?id=5202213.2016192.178568448.28893


In this position black played Be3 (also winning) instead of 29....h3+ 30.Kxh3 Rf2 31.Bxf2 which would have led to our problem position


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October 07, 2015, 11:23:07 PM
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Some clues:

1. Black can either force checkmate in three moves or force white to give up massive amounts of material to prevent it.
2. If you want to checkmate your opponent, identify possible escape square(s) for their king. Now figure out how to eliminate those escape square(s).
3. Dxxlxxxxon

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Puzzle :  Qxf2 Nxf2   Nf4+ Kh4   Bg5#    if white doesn't capture the Queen then simply Ng5#   (didn't look at your clues either  Tongue)

Would definitely love more puzzles from you  Smiley

Nice work! By now I am sure some of you realize my third clue was deflection (of whites knight from protecting the f4 square). The above solution is very aesthetically pleasing but some of the readers of this thread may still want to think about how black should respond if white plays Qc1 or Qd2 after black plays Qxf2.

Now that ObscureBean has solved the puzzle, I will provide a link to the game where it could have occurred:
http://chess-db.com/public/game.jsp?id=5202213.2016192.178568448.28893

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In this position black played Be3 (also winning) instead of 29....h3+ 30.Kxh3 Rf2 31.Bxf2 which would have led to our problem position


Please tell me you are Nakamura. This would make everything great. I really hope that you are. If not, don't tell me. Wink

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October 08, 2015, 12:26:34 AM
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I am teaching the kids at our chess club. I have followed a course from the Dutch Chess Association to become a chess teacher. It was the first course, they also got some more courses to even become a better teacher.

Good luck with the chess club!
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October 08, 2015, 12:30:25 AM
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What do you guys think of this -    23.Nxd7 Rxd7   24.Qd1 Rd8  25.Nc1 c4     then maybe look at ideas with Qg4 threatening Bxh6 (trying to infiltrate his king side with our queen while his is at the other side of the board)

24.Qd1 looks as good as any of the other options I can think of (like 24. Nc1). I can't find any way to solve our current problems. Every variation I see involves us losing a pawn sometime in the next several moves. After our d3 pawn is gone, suddenly his queen seems well developed on a8! Our e4 pawn is about to become a target.
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