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September 02, 2015, 06:30:50 PM
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Is Cuckoo currently used in any coin? sounds like a very fair distribution method.

No; it's not in use as far as I know.

As to fair distribution, that depends more on the reward schedule than on the PoW.
Nothing is fair when the majority of coins is released in a few weeks, or even a few days.

A fair distribution would start with negligible rewards, which slowly climb over a period
of months, to reach their peak in maybe a year, when mining software has had a chance to mature
and spread to many platforms (e.g. phones charging overnight), and then slowly decline over many years.


A lengthy pre-ann + linear rewards + a few weeks is decent IMO. It's not like alt-coin crowd will double in a year. I think whoever will ever participate in mining expanse are already monitoring this thread and other channels for the eventual non-ninja launch.
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September 02, 2015, 08:03:15 PM
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Guess EXP can learn from what Ethereum and SHF have made a mistake at; make things more user friendly to the masses. A gui wallet with a daemon running inside it and maybe a gui miner. Also, don't rush it, rather have a polish product than a heap of hot mess. I've mined both ETH and currently SHF, so far the same experience as far as mining goes. Strangely I get 71 MHS with SHF compared to 68 MHS on ETH with 3 HD 7970's. Hopefully DAPPS will be more simple to create in the future.

Couldn't agree more. Hope they take their time. the one with the larger user base will come out on top and for that it all needs to make sense to to the regular folk who will just want to use their hashing power without having to RTFM 17 times.

A lot of devs just assume that everyone that mines and/or involved in crypto are IT people, like myself in computer networking. But majority are just people that just know basic computer skills: ie. word, browser, gaming, etc.... What ever crypto can simplify adoption, is transparent in agendas, promotes well with great PR, truly democratic with no censorship, make a solid team and have a useful circulating currency will come on top of things, maybe even surpass BTC and other top digital currencies.

We will have a public mining test for anyone that wants to test mining before the launch. So everyone that needs to can learn how to set it up in a non competitive environment and be ready for the actual launch. As we are not ninja launching or instamining, or any of that sort of trickery, we can just have a totally fair launch where everyone that wants to be a part of it has a fair and equal start. Obviously if we do this with public test mining, that would be on a testnet and not be actual coins/tokens. We think it is very important to really include everyone that want to be a part of Expanse.

Right on....

Can't wait till this finally gets online... Cool

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September 03, 2015, 08:09:54 PM
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I'm glad to see everyones support, we should have some testnet testing pretty soon Smiley We dont wnt to be doing any "do overs".

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September 04, 2015, 12:24:51 AM
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I'm glad to see everyones support, we should have some testnet testing pretty soon Smiley We dont wnt to be doing any "do overs".

Relaunches are quite the bother most of the times...lol

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September 04, 2015, 01:02:57 PM
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Any news?
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September 04, 2015, 01:24:17 PM
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Is Cuckoo currently used in any coin? sounds like a very fair distribution method.

No; it's not in use as far as I know.

As to fair distribution, that depends more on the reward schedule than on the PoW.
Nothing is fair when the majority of coins is released in a few weeks, or even a few days.

A fair distribution would start with negligible rewards, which slowly climb over a period
of months, to reach their peak in maybe a year, when mining software has had a chance to mature
and spread to many platforms (e.g. phones charging overnight), and then slowly decline over many years.


A lengthy pre-ann + linear rewards + a few weeks is decent IMO. It's not like alt-coin crowd will double in a year. I think whoever will ever participate in mining expanse are already monitoring this thread and other channels for the eventual non-ninja launch.

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September 04, 2015, 09:49:03 PM
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Any news?

We are very close to the announcement now and should have it up within days. Sorry for the delays, but we want to get this done right.

There will be public test mining in advance of the actual launch so people can test and have everything ready, so that the actual launch will be as fair as possible for everyone.

There should be no problem with getting Expanse on a good exchange. Smiley

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September 04, 2015, 10:01:39 PM
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Any news?

We are very close to the announcement now and should have it up within days. Sorry for the delays, but we want to get this done right.

There will be public test mining in advance of the actual launch so people can test and have everything ready, so that the actual launch will be as fair as possible for everyone.

There should be no problem with getting Expanse on a good exchange. Smiley
I hope you start project without premain
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September 05, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
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Any news?

We are very close to the announcement now and should have it up within days. Sorry for the delays, but we want to get this done right.

There will be public test mining in advance of the actual launch so people can test and have everything ready, so that the actual launch will be as fair as possible for everyone.

There should be no problem with getting Expanse on a good exchange. Smiley

Good to hear the hard work and effort to make it a fair launch.

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September 05, 2015, 01:46:05 AM
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I'll mine this Smiley
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September 05, 2015, 01:48:18 AM
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I'll mine this Smiley

Me too definitely. I mined both ETH and SHF, but surely this too.... Cool

Nice to be back in the GPU mining gig....lmfao....Lucky I didn't sell all my gpu's away, especially AMD cards....lol

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September 05, 2015, 01:49:25 AM
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Hurry up before something else "SHIFT"s the momentum towards a different ethereum clone.

Good one Wink
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September 05, 2015, 01:51:53 AM
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Which implementation of the Ethereum will Expanse be based on?
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September 05, 2015, 01:53:36 AM
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Any news?

We are very close to the announcement now and should have it up within days. Sorry for the delays, but we want to get this done right.

There will be public test mining in advance of the actual launch so people can test and have everything ready, so that the actual launch will be as fair as possible for everyone.

There should be no problem with getting Expanse on a good exchange. Smiley
I hope you start project without premain

The upcoming plans requires a reserve and would not work without it, but we are avoiding ninja launches and instamines that go along with most zero premines, that in practice are usually not actually fair and favor the few that know the timing or initial settings to mine.

It will be an extremely fair launch this way without any person or group having an edge. There will even be a test launch so people less technical can set everything up in advance and be ready for it. So even the least technical people will have a fair shot at a time made clear well in advance.

As for the reserve, most of the reserve will be controlled by the community, and I think most people will find the design for this very innovative and original once they see it.

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September 05, 2015, 01:53:40 AM
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I'll mine this Smiley

Me too definitely. I mined both ETH and SHF, but surely this too.... Cool

Nice to be back in the GPU mining gig....lmfao....Lucky I didn't sell all my gpu's away, especially AMD cards....lol


AMD 270x's handle ETHASH very well!
What cards you running?
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September 05, 2015, 02:17:27 AM
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When is the launch date?
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I'll mine this Smiley

Me too definitely. I mined both ETH and SHF, but surely this too.... Cool

Nice to be back in the GPU mining gig....lmfao....Lucky I didn't sell all my gpu's away, especially AMD cards....lol


AMD 270x's handle ETHASH very well!
What cards you running?

Just 3x HD 7970's at them moment, hashing about 68~71 MH/s....Trying to get more cards at the moment, HD 7970, HD 7990, R9 280x or 295x2....

Think the 270x is pretty good and also the HD 7950/R9 280/R9 285.

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September 05, 2015, 03:48:01 AM
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Any news?

We are very close to the announcement now and should have it up within days. Sorry for the delays, but we want to get this done right.

There will be public test mining in advance of the actual launch so people can test and have everything ready, so that the actual launch will be as fair as possible for everyone.

There should be no problem with getting Expanse on a good exchange. Smiley
I hope you start project without premain

The upcoming plans requires a reserve and would not work without it, but we are avoiding ninja launches and instamines that go along with most zero premines, that in practice are usually not actually fair and favor the few that know the timing or initial settings to mine.

It will be an extremely fair launch this way without any person or group having an edge. There will even be a test launch so people less technical can set everything up in advance and be ready for it. So even the least technical people will have a fair shot at a time made clear well in advance.

As for the reserve, most of the reserve will be controlled by the community, and I think most people will find the design for this very innovative and original once they see it.

hmm... that is bad, how much will be premine?
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September 05, 2015, 04:19:29 AM
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Which implementation of the Ethereum will Expanse be based on?
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September 05, 2015, 04:20:27 AM
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When is the launch date?

We should have the announcement up in a day or two and then all the details will be out. Soon Smiley

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