Is it true that Vanillacoin uses the BTC code?

[HCLivess]

FWIW, I politely reported the copyright violation (the code being a copy of Bitcoin Core run through an auto-formatter with all the attribution removed) as an issue on the github for the project and john-connor accused me of stalking him and then hid the issue tracker on that github from public view. :-/

[monsterer]

FWIW, he did the same thing to me when I posted some issues on his whitepaper on github

[Wheatclove]

The level of professionalism that this dev displays is near zero. I don't care how good the tech is, I'll never buy into VNL due to his childish actions.

[P-Funk]

As a non-coder all I can tell you is it uses the same file names and structure as a Bitcoin-based coin would and also uses the same console/RPC commands.

[x0rcist]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

[Este Nuno]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

In terms of code? No, it's not.

In terms of general concept and idea? Probably.

[smooth]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

[nextgencoin]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

I would prefer to know if he really has solved double spend with zero confirmations more actually...cause if he has it wouldn't matter where the original code came from.

[smooth]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

I would prefer to know if he really has solved double spend with zero confirmations more actually...cause if he has it wouldn't matter where the original code came from.

I want to know both. Stealing code, reformatting it, and stripping out the attributions is reprehensible conduct even if the same person also  accomplishes something else of value.

I don't know if he did this, but I would like to find out.

[x0rcist]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

Spend your time on github for some due diligence instead of getting your opinion from what others tell you.

[smooth]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

Spend your time on github for some due diligence instead of getting your opinion from what others tell you.

Have you done this github due diligence yourself?

Can you say definitively that he did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

[x0rcist]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

Spend your time on github for some due diligence instead of getting your opinion from what others tell you.

Have you done this github due diligence yourself?

Can you say definitively that he did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

I always do my own due diligence, its one of the reasons i left the XMR team after a few weeks.

[smooth]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

Spend your time on github for some due diligence instead of getting your opinion from what others tell you.

Have you done this github due diligence yourself?

Can you say definitively that he did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

I always o my own due diligence, its one of the reasons i left the XMR team after a few weeks.

Let's try to stay on topic, though frankly I have no idea what you are going on about with XMR. I only know of seven team members that have ever existed, which did not include you.

Did your due diligence on VNL determine definitively that john-connor did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

[generalizethis]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

Spend your time on github for some due diligence instead of getting your opinion from what others tell you.

Have you done this github due diligence yourself?

Can you say definitively that he did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

I always o my own due diligence, its one of the reasons i left the XMR team after a few weeks.

Let's try to stay on topic, though frankly I have no idea what you are going on about with XMR. I only know of seven team members that have ever existed, which did not include you.

Did your due diligence on VNL determine definitively that john-connor did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

First we had a troll promoting gingeropolis to a Dev and now we have one promoting himself to a founding member. The first was funny, but this is sad.

[x0rcist]

Is it true BTC is based on Bitgold?

You realize that proposing such a ridiculous counterargument is close to an admission right?

Get your nose of out john-conners ass long enough to be objective please.

If he stole code, reformatted and it and removed attribution, then he is a scumbag and a scammer. Did that happen or did i not?

I don't want to hear about Bitgold and RPOW and David Chaum and Milton Friedman and John Nash. I want to hear about whether john-conner stole Bitcoin's code, reformatted it and stripped out the attributions.

Spend your time on github for some due diligence instead of getting your opinion from what others tell you.

Have you done this github due diligence yourself?

Can you say definitively that he did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

I always o my own due diligence, its one of the reasons i left the XMR team after a few weeks.

Let's try to stay on topic, though frankly I have no idea what you are going on about with XMR. I only know of seven team members that have ever existed, which did not include you.

Did your due diligence on VNL determine definitively that john-connor did not rip off the Bitcoin code, reformat it, and strip out the attributions?

I guess i still have founder access on the irc channel like eizh asked me some time ago, to bad i dont have my freenode account anymore to hand it over.. it was and still is a toxic community i dont want to be part off Anyway it was fun mining them on AWS the first few weeks and i had a great last year after i got rid of them on the ~ 0.01 pump

The crypto part is indeed based on bitcoin the keep it backward compatible but still its a full rewrite and has a totally different network stack. Go read the code instead of wasting your time here.

Thank you for your support

[americanpegasus]

 
 

[smooth]

I guess i still have founder access on the irc channel like eizh asked me some time ago, to bad i dont have my freenode account anymore to hand it over.. it was and still is a toxic community i dont want to be part off Anyway it was fun mining them on AWS the first few weeks and i had a great last year after i got rid of them on the ~ 0.01 pump

Oh I have no doubt you were around mining, I kind of even remember that. I just don't remember you being a team member, but maybe I missed that. Not so important now anyway.

Nice trade BTW. I sold some too when the idiots pumped it on the Mentpal thing.

The crypto part is indeed based on bitcoin the keep it backward compatible but still its a full rewrite and has a totally different network stack. ]

So you have in fact confirmed that it is a "compete rewrite" and not reformatted code where attributions were removed?

That would go a long way toward disproving these rumors, if true.

[rnicoll]

Define "uses". There's certainly structural similarities:

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/key.cpp vs
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/key.cpp#L16

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/utility.cpp vs https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/87f37e259d6deb52ee464edde7aece687eea97a5/src/main.cpp#L1094

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/block.cpp#L301 vs https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9/src/miner.cpp#L115

It's certainly no cleanroom implementation. IANAL, couldn't advise on whether that counts as use, though.

[smooth]

It's not so hard to spot the rewrite, example:

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/base58.cpp

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/base58.cpp

The question is not whether some parts are rewritten it is whether any parts are not.

[x0rcist]

It's not so hard to spot the rewrite, example:

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/base58.cpp

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/base58.cpp

The question is not whether some parts are rewritten it is whether any parts are not.

I think the post of rnicoll answers this question better then mine