Quickseller and Tomatocage

[Hexcoin]

ok most users are all close minded, cant even dig deeper, found 1 clue and go for accusation.

[shorena]

May I get a copy of the proof?

4E32 814C 98C2 B12E C473 228B 940A 17DB BD6B 68E2

Right now Im not convinced, the blockchain evidence that is presented here[1] is very thin and would IMHO deserve a neutral rating at best.


[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108209.20

[tspacepilot]

May I get a copy of the proof?

4E32 814C 98C2 B12E C473 228B 940A 17DB BD6B 68E2

Right now Im not convinced, the blockchain evidence that is presented here[1] is very thin and would IMHO deserve a neutral rating at best.


[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108209.20

Once again, well done to Shorena for not getting caught up in the lynch-mob hype that often surrounds these sorts of events.  Being respectful and keeping the benefit of the doubt is something that Tomatocage once wrote to Quickseller as a standard for leaving feedback.

Shame on Quickseller for once again making an ass of himself as he posts encrypted "evidence" in order to try to mock someone that he's smearing.  If you actually have evidence and you're going to post it, post it.  If you don't have the evidence it's better to keep your mouth shut.  If you have the evidence and don't plan to post it, you should say that.  Posting this kind of taunting foolishness is the kind of thing done by vengeful teenagers not adults with self-repsect and with basic human respect for others.

Mods, you guys condone this kind of taunting?

Although, since you did not stipulate the format that you want the evidence posted in, I will post it below:

Code:

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I don't claim to know anything about hexcoin or whether or not he has alts.  But I do want to draw attention to the way that people are behaving in addressing this concern.

[qory]

Probably the addresses have never been used in the same transaction, but wallet explorer showed all addresses came from the same wallet.

[BadBear]

You probably don't know this tspacepilot, but you can encrypt messages with multiple recipients using GPG, I was able to decrypt it.

If you're going to ask people to not rush to judgement against Hexcoin, you should do the same for Quickseller and Tomatocage if you want to be taken seriously.

[shorena]

You probably don't know this tspacepilot, but you can encrypt messages with multiple recipients using GPG, I was able to decrypt it.

If you're going to ask people to not rush to judgement against Hexcoin, you should do the same for Quickseller and Tomatocage if you want to be taken seriously.

I dont see you adding a rating though it was encrypted for you and QS.

[BadBear]

I usually don't, I have enough on my plate. That's why I have them in my trust list.

He probably is.

[Tomatocage]

ok most users are all close minded, cant even dig deeper, found 1 clue and go for accusation.

When you're using the same Bitcoin address for all your alts, yeah that's kind of a dead give away, ya think?

[shorena]

I usually don't, I have enough on my plate. That's why I have them in my trust list.

He probably is.

Fair enough.

yenzae0215 claimed that an address that was posted by him belonged to coins.ph, and that was a lie. Since you are yenzae0215, and you knew that address does not belong to coins.ph, you know it is a lie, and I know it is a lie because I know which addresses belong to coins.ph

incase you really dont know and only "acting" you know everything

take a look

-picture-

Whats that supposed to show btw? That you have a coins.ph account?

[tspacepilot]

You probably don't know this tspacepilot, but you can encrypt messages with multiple recipients using GPG, I was able to decrypt it.

If you're going to ask people to not rush to judgement against Hexcoin, you should do the same for Quickseller and Tomatocage if you want to be taken seriously.

Thank you BadBear for the information.  I don't know if you're implying that QS encrypted that message in order for Hexcoin to read it, but given the taunting and mocking tone of QS' message, its hard to believe that his intention was to be helpful.

As for rushing to judgment, I'd hardly call the 5 months of mocking, taunting, sockpuppet lying negative ratings (three of them from three different accounts), and an inability to explain himself or a legitimate reason for his attack rushing to judgment.  With respect to tomatocage, my only gripe with him is that he seems to be vouching for this kind of behavior now.  Are you also vouching for this kind of behavior?

My goal in posting was to call attention to the respectful tone of Shorena, asking for information and avoiding drama, and to contrast it to that of Quickseller, who in his first post in the thread, replies with taunting hautiness.  This same taunting hautiness had had me harrassed by QS for 5 months now, as he exploded in rage on me when I dared to call him a hothead in late March---I thought it wasn't cool to call people idiots and fools just because they disagree with you, and I have paid the price for having crossed him.  The amazing thing to me is that apprantely this kind of behavior is now sponsored.

I can tell that you guys have warned him not to reply in my thread on his behavior, that if he does so he risks legitimizing my complaints, that if he wants to keep his many false ratings on me and stay on default trust he's going to have to avoid explaining himself (since, apparantely there is no explanation).  Anyway, I know nothing of hexcoin's situation, but I recognize the bile of Quickseller all too well, and I thought it was worth it to contrast its style with Shorena's.

[Tomatocage]

I think you're reading more into QS's messages than there actually is. Hexcoin's primary concern is not that he and his alt accounts were discovered -- it's how they were discovered and how he might avoid this with his next round of accounts. I don't have any more say over what QS writes than I do over which way the wind blows, but while he may offend some people, I much prefer that situation than the one where scammers slip through the cracks and end up stealing peoples' money. I hope you understand this.

[subSTRATA]

I think you're reading more into QS's messages than there actually is. Hexcoin's primary concern is not that he and his alt accounts were discovered -- it's how they were discovered and how he might avoid this with his next round of accounts. I don't have any more say over what QS writes than I do over which way the wind blows, but while he may offend some people, I much prefer that situation than the one where scammers slip through the cracks and end up stealing peoples' money. I hope you understand this.

i think the same, considering hexcoin is actively trying to purchase new accounts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151261.msg12136948#msg12136948

[Brewins]

I think you're reading more into QS's messages than there actually is. Hexcoin's primary concern is not that he and his alt accounts were discovered -- it's how they were discovered and how he might avoid this with his next round of accounts. I don't have any more say over what QS writes than I do over which way the wind blows, but while he may offend some people, I much prefer that situation than the one where scammers slip through the cracks and end up stealing peoples' money. I hope you understand this.

i think the same, considering hexcoin is actively trying to purchase new accounts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151261.msg12136948#msg12136948

quite dumb bid for accounts using his one, will only make people actively look for alts of him and he will have to trust the escrow and the seller to keep his secret

[tspacepilot]

@tspacepilot

It couldn't be any more that the all you are trying to do is attack Quickseller in your private little war because you earned some negative trust.

Defending Hexacoin is a really bad idea.

I would find another angle of attack if I were you.


~BCX~

Dear Hexacoin, I'm sorry to disappoint you in admitting that I'm not defending hexcoin.  I was drawing attention to the attack-dog mocking taunting style of Quickseller as contrasted with others in this forum.

You might not calling defending your reputation against slander a "little private war" if your hero had perpetrated on you what he's perpetrated on me.  Then again, maybe he won't be doing that to you because you seem to be his number one cheerleader and as far as I can tell, the reason he started all this trouble with me was because he couldn't handle my adult-criticism of his hot temper against several forum members so many months ago.  Be warned, if you do ever disagree with quickseller, tread with caution or you may end up like me.

[ndnh]

May I ask what the OP has done though? He's clearly been found to have those alts but what have these accounts done? Scammed people or what?

The OP is an alt of yenzae0215, and dznuts85. yenzae0215 defaulted on a loan in March from MadZ, and dznuts85 took money from girlbtc.com to manage their signature campaign but instantly ran away with the funds. It should also be noted that dznuts85 lied about his account being sold in an effort to get his negative trust removed, although this claim was quickly disproven.

lol why would anyone have trusted dznuts85 with an escrow? Anyways I agree QS does good for the community! Thanks for all the efforts in busting these scammers.

Not taking any sides here.

I had kept warning girlbtc.com right from the start about the possibility of getting scammed, about using escrow and related standard practices we generally follow. Even offered my help. None of the advice was taken but kept saying to post on the thread instead of using PM. And then she/he picks someone and does everything he asks without question. Funny, lol.

dznuts85 is a scammer. That is the part I am sure about.