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October 03, 2012, 09:30:37 PM |
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Luke is still pushing his own idea of a symbol on wikipedia. It's getting silly.
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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October 03, 2012, 10:12:28 PM |
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There hasn't been much disagreement that Ƀ, the "Latin capital letter B with stroke" (Alt+0243) is a pretty decent symbol to use going forward.
I don't like it. It's too plain. My browser displays Luke's symbol alright, and it looks better than ฿ or Ƀ, but I just tried to paste it into the posting text box and it wasn't handled very well. Why not just use "BTC" in text and BTC in images? A symbol in text isn't really required. |
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giszmo
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October 03, 2012, 10:26:31 PM |
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Why not just use "BTC" in text and BTC in images? A symbol in text isn't really required.
It's not the first time we are discussing this and although "no authority in bitcoin" Atlas vs. "we always used ❏" Luke might most likely not be resolved ever, I'd love to see some definite preference of the bitcointalk.org users so at least we can silence this repetitive discussion here. |
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October 03, 2012, 11:22:54 PM |
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There hasn't been much disagreement that Ƀ, the "Latin capital letter B with stroke" (Alt+0243) is a pretty decent symbol to use going forward.
I don't like it. It's too plain. My browser displays Luke's symbol alright, and it looks better than ฿ or Ƀ, but I just tried to paste it into the posting text box and it wasn't handled very well. Why not just use "BTC" in text and BTC in images? A symbol in text isn't really required.I agree. Using "BTC" works just fine for the time being. The market will eventually decide on a universally agreed symbol. I don't see that there is a need to settle on any particular one at this time. |
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helloworld
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October 03, 2012, 11:50:55 PM |
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Not a fan of ฿.
More a fan of Ƀ.
Me too. I'd like to see that one used more often. |
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ralree
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October 04, 2012, 12:20:53 AM |
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This is what I see:  Mine doesn't look that bad, but it's close. |
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October 04, 2012, 12:33:39 AM |
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The Baht is not an appropriate symbol for Bitcoin. Each symbol represents a specific currency, and Bitcoin is not a baht.
¤ = currency (B¤: good bitcoin symbol)
$ = peso
€ = euro
£ = pound sterling
¥ = yuan
دينار = dinar
฿ = baht (bad bitcoin symbol)
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FLHippy
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October 04, 2012, 12:42:07 AM |
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Coming from someone promoting Bitcoin as a tool for illegal activities (and thus harming Bitcoin), I guess I should take this as a compliment...
You seem a little nutty to me... legal activities vary greatly from one place to the next and bitcoin is not limited to any single legal jurisdiction. morality is maybe you what you really mean, and bitcoin is morally neutral. I like nuts though. I always buy the chunky brand peanut butter and my parrot loves all kinds of nuts. |
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October 04, 2012, 02:13:58 AM |
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I kinda like Ƀ
Is this part of standard fonts? If it is, I like it and let use it! Yes - which is why we need to use it. There was an effort to design a bitcoin logo around it a few months back...something like a BTC50 bounty (of which I pledged BTC10). There was even a pretty good design, but, nothing really got a foothold. |
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October 04, 2012, 02:18:45 AM |
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Luke-Jr keeps changing it to some weird Russian symbol nobody uses on Wikipedia. It probably shows up as the Baht for him or something. Um, no, I changed it to the symbol every major Bitcoin website uses - including bitcoin.org, bitcoincharts, and these forums - at least in their favicon: B⃦ This is the standard Unicode symbol used for the B with double vertical strokes.  The forum has BTC using some CSS (embedded fonts) to workaround the fact that major fonts don't render it as nice, but it is the same symbol. Anyways, we generally use the Thai Baht for Bitcoins, right?
฿ <- that right there You must be confusing Bitcoin with Silk Road. The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?). |
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October 04, 2012, 02:24:46 AM |
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Luke-Jr keeps changing it to some weird Russian symbol nobody uses on Wikipedia. It probably shows up as the Baht for him or something. Um, no, I changed it to the symbol every major Bitcoin website uses - including bitcoin.org, bitcoincharts, and these forums - at least in their favicon: B⃦ This is the standard Unicode symbol used for the B with double vertical strokes. The forum has BTC using some CSS (embedded fonts) to workaround the fact that major fonts don't render it as nice, but it is the same symbol. Anyways, we generally use the Thai Baht for Bitcoins, right?
฿ <- that right there You must be confusing Bitcoin with Silk Road. The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?). Two unicode symbols that look like one: B⃦. |
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October 04, 2012, 02:33:50 AM |
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The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?). Yep. Unicode defines symbols like this using "combining" characters (the "already combined" characters exist only for compatibility with legacy encodings such as Latin-1), so for B⃦ you do: This works to some extent for all possible combinations (apparently some people are getting blocks, though?). From there, fonts can specialize with "ligatures" (renderings that represent a sequence of characters) - which is where things can definitely use improvement. |
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nimda
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October 04, 2012, 02:57:48 AM |
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You guys... where can I get these fonts  All I see is the baht and the "currency symbol." The rest are boxes and B-boxes. |
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helloworld
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October 04, 2012, 04:08:28 AM |
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Coming from someone promoting Bitcoin as a tool for illegal activities (and thus harming Bitcoin), I guess I should take this as a compliment...
You seem a little nutty to me... [A little nutty] * [all the people who think he's a little nutty] = [a shitload of nutty] |
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October 04, 2012, 12:03:40 PM |
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Coming from someone promoting Bitcoin as a tool for illegal activities (and thus harming Bitcoin), I guess I should take this as a compliment...
You seem a little nutty to me... [A little nutty] * [all the people who think he's a little nutty] = [a shitload of nutty] If that's how it works, then I think I have a shitload of humanness. You guys... where can I get these fonts All I see is the baht and the "currency symbol." The rest are boxes and B-boxes. I didn't need to "get a font". Ubuntu 12.04, works out of the box. What OS are you using? |
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October 04, 2012, 02:28:12 PM |
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All of them suck IMHO because they resemble digit 8 too closely. When put next to amount, it takes a little bit of brain power to separate symbol from value:
฿485 - striked 8, still reads as 8, too busy in general
Ƀ249 - bit better as Ƀ is slightly taller than other chars
BTC853 - stands out only because it looks bolded, so sucks anyway (being an image earns three bonus sucks)
B⃦ sucks extra hard for being 2 chars (we invented new problems for you!) and not being displayed properly on my unicode friendly win7 machine, despite 64bit processor and 8gb of ram. /s
How about Bitcoin, the currency of unconditional love: ❤256
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October 04, 2012, 02:44:34 PM |
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BTC853 - stands out only because it looks bolded, so sucks anyway (being an image earns three bonus sucks) Technically speaking, BitcoinTalk is using a "webfont" for this, not a regular image. B⃦ sucks extra hard for being 2 chars (we invented new problems for you!) B⃦ is itself a single character, even if comprised of two codepoints. It's also the same character the forum is using a webfont to render in BTC. Using multiple codepoints for a single character is not new. and not being displayed properly on my unicode friendly win7 machine, despite 64bit processor and 8gb of ram. Obviously not very Unicode-friendly, if it can't display Unicode. |
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October 04, 2012, 02:54:56 PM |
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The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?). Yep. Unicode defines symbols like this using "combining" characters (the "already combined" characters exist only for compatibility with legacy encodings such as Latin-1), so for B⃦ you do: This works to some extent for all possible combinations (apparently some people are getting blocks, though?). From there, fonts can specialize with "ligatures" (renderings that represent a sequence of characters) - which is where things can definitely use improvement. Ok, so now I know why it looks shitty on my and many other systems. The vertical strokes are in different places depending on the program I use. In my chromium browser they are too far right and in gedit they are in addition to far right too short. Knowing it is actually a double-symbol makes me all the more favor any of the single-symbols that at least should look consistent on all systems that manage to display something: ฿ or Ƀ. The $ symbol being used for many many currencies should be reason enough to not have a problem recycling the Baht symbol for Bitcoin. Here in Chile they also use $ for Chilean Pesos. |
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October 04, 2012, 02:57:24 PM |
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We use Ƀ
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October 04, 2012, 03:03:45 PM |
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B⃦ is itself a single character, even if comprised of two codepoints.
It's also the same character the forum is using a webfont to render in BTC.
Using multiple codepoints for a single character is not new.
I am now on a completely different computer than yesterday. Your B-Box now shows up as a B with two feet. I have also had a look at your B-Box via Chrome on a GNex with Jelly Bean. Your B-Box there shows up as a B. Just a B. |
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