Yesminer M20 / M10

[Xircom2]

Yes you are right, I have tons of Bitcointalk e-mails in my mailbox to my username Xircom and the same e-mail adress I have used for years.
I have no probem in providing all needed info to recover my account.
If you want to dig even more up then ask J4bberwok who I am, or ask Jeff from smartehash or look for a part sales of my farm on Iceland in the hardware section, that is now ruined due to this hack.

[AJRGale]

As i can see @beliza hacked his account and sold it to yesminers, fucking great! Check his trust!

Why is it so fucking great that my account got hacked ?
Just because you disagree with the things I say, dosent give you the right to hack my account.

You are right.Every member must be able to announce her/his opinions.If we will begin to hack each other just to bully, this indicated the maturity of our forum members.

Thanks, it just shows how unmature some forum users are. But it still dosent help me to get my account back from this @beliza who hacked me.

sent you some pm's with links on how to (supposedly) i assume you checked your spam email etc ..when an account pswd is changed i 'assume' they send you  a notice of such..perhaps that would help with proof

also set a 'secret password' like a 'childhood friend' etc (hell i just checked i did ..but damn'd if i remember doing it)

anyway all i have good luck let us know how it works out

(by the by....xircom2 sent me an email not a PM on this ..if that is any help.....so supposedly if it was not hacked they would not know my email..in that it was if i remember right a reply from my email to his email..thus ..he had to shoot me his email first..not vice versa...ie the spammer would know know it hacking his bitcointalk account)

again...assuming is it not the same bloke...but if it is not the same bloke and he had my email .i would 'suspect' some havoc on my toss away email account...so just saying..

lots of work to make up a story (or at least in my world seems to complicated to not be a hack)

but hell I belived BFL at one time..what do I know...but the above is outside of bitcointalk figured it was worth tossing it in the mix here for consideration of xircom's bona fides etc

irregardless of what you think by all means SET YOUR SECRET PASSWORD it has to help I'd think?

for what it is worth

Searing

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

[Searing]

As i can see @beliza hacked his account and sold it to yesminers, fucking great! Check his trust!

Why is it so fucking great that my account got hacked ?
Just because you disagree with the things I say, dosent give you the right to hack my account.

You are right.Every member must be able to announce her/his opinions.If we will begin to hack each other just to bully, this indicated the maturity of our forum members.

Thanks, it just shows how unmature some forum users are. But it still dosent help me to get my account back from this @beliza who hacked me.

sent you some pm's with links on how to (supposedly) i assume you checked your spam email etc ..when an account pswd is changed i 'assume' they send you  a notice of such..perhaps that would help with proof

also set a 'secret password' like a 'childhood friend' etc (hell i just checked i did ..but damn'd if i remember doing it)

anyway all i have good luck let us know how it works out

(by the by....xircom2 sent me an email not a PM on this ..if that is any help.....so supposedly if it was not hacked they would not know my email..in that it was if i remember right a reply from my email to his email..thus ..he had to shoot me his email first..not vice versa...ie the spammer would know know it hacking his bitcointalk account)

again...assuming is it not the same bloke...but if it is not the same bloke and he had my email .i would 'suspect' some havoc on my toss away email account...so just saying..

lots of work to make up a story (or at least in my world seems to complicated to not be a hack)

but hell I belived BFL at one time..what do I know...but the above is outside of bitcointalk figured it was worth tossing it in the mix here for consideration of xircom's bona fides etc

irregardless of what you think by all means SET YOUR SECRET PASSWORD it has to help I'd think?

for what it is worth

Searing

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

that is my 'assumption' in that I got the email asking for help on how to 'unhack' it....but irregardless of the truth ..yes miners is scam imho and xircom (got took it seems)

so whatever....was the only 'proof' i have unless this is a whole 'jekyel and hyde thing' (bitcointalk drama/fud/trolls/scammers)

anyway....if nothing else folk check your account that you have a 'decently hard' password and an 'obscure secret question' is about the only 'true' thing you can take off of

this

anyway ..it is "next week" as yesminers have said the 'equip' is in the mail...ie where is it???

(much like believing in faries/unicorns/magic/rainbows and kitty cat videos on youtube...I await a 'real yes miner' with the same childhood anticipation of Santa ..ie wtf no Santa
if i can remember my disillusionment correctly)

could make a country song.....yesminrer's you've done me wrong...(add yodeling here).......pause....I only have my dog and my pickup truck now..pause.....(all i got so far)

(well actually yesminer's has done me no wrong in that I did not order one...but then again most courntry super stars don't have a pickup truck have a Porsche imho)


 

[xoox]

Ok guys, maybe another victim here! Order #200000394, 100% paid via wire tranfer.
It's an M10 machine with the overclock included (100% paid as well!).
Now, let's note that an online shop http://www.gamma*******.ch  has removed the YM miners from its site this morning.
1+1=2 if the math is not an opinion!
So it's not difficult to say now that it's scam (poor me and others). I have no evidence of people posting YT videos where they show their M10/20 working... apart from those YM videos showing a led screen that's mining at 25 TH...
But I'm not worried because the payment method is totally traceable, so if these guys will not refund me I'll denounce them to the police and take legal action if necessary. And I'll do this this week already.
This would discredit the seriousness of the Germans as well.
Otherwise, if the goods were to get me, well what to say? I'll buy other machines.
Let's see and feel free to contact me if in the same condition!
SEEEYAAAAA

[adaseb]

Ok guys, maybe another victim here! Order #200000394, 100% paid via wire tranfer.
It's an M10 machine with the overclock included (100% paid as well!).
Now, let's note that an online shop http://www.gamma*******.ch  has removed the YM miners from its site this morning.
1+1=2 if the math is not an opinion!
So it's not difficult to say now that it's scam (poor me and others). I have no evidence of people posting YT videos where they show their M10/20 working... apart from those YM videos showing a led screen that's mining at 25 TH...
But I'm not worried because the payment method is totally traceable, so if these guys will not refund me I'll denounce them to the police and take legal action if necessary. And I'll do this this week already.
This would discredit the seriousness of the Germans as well.
Otherwise, if the goods were to get me, well what to say? I'll buy other machines.
Let's see and feel free to contact me if in the same condition!
SEEEYAAAAA

How much did you send them in total?

[ZipEyes]

Ok guys, maybe another victim here! Order #200000394, 100% paid via wire tranfer.
It's an M10 machine with the overclock included (100% paid as well!).
Now, let's note that an online shop http://www.gamma*******.ch  has removed the YM miners from its site this morning.
1+1=2 if the math is not an opinion!
So it's not difficult to say now that it's scam (poor me and others). I have no evidence of people posting YT videos where they show their M10/20 working... apart from those YM videos showing a led screen that's mining at 25 TH...
But I'm not worried because the payment method is totally traceable, so if these guys will not refund me I'll denounce them to the police and take legal action if necessary. And I'll do this this week already.
This would discredit the seriousness of the Germans as well.
Otherwise, if the goods were to get me, well what to say? I'll buy other machines.
Let's see and feel free to contact me if in the same condition!
SEEEYAAAAA

How much did you send them in total?

1800$ for miner and 200$ for upgrade.
Thats their price, if he didnt buy it from ebay voucher.

I wonder, how you havent made account in this forum before, newbie like me. If you have 2k$ to spend in crypto world you should be familiar with forums like this. Anywyas sorry for your loss and hope you search next time before making investments. Wish you luck.

[Gornidah]

Ok guys, maybe another victim here! Order #200000394, 100% paid via wire tranfer.
It's an M10 machine with the overclock included (100% paid as well!).
Now, let's note that an online shop http://www.gamma*******.ch  has removed the YM miners from its site this morning.
1+1=2 if the math is not an opinion!
So it's not difficult to say now that it's scam (poor me and others). I have no evidence of people posting YT videos where they show their M10/20 working... apart from those YM videos showing a led screen that's mining at 25 TH...
But I'm not worried because the payment method is totally traceable, so if these guys will not refund me I'll denounce them to the police and take legal action if necessary. And I'll do this this week already.
This would discredit the seriousness of the Germans as well.
Otherwise, if the goods were to get me, well what to say? I'll buy other machines.
Let's see and feel free to contact me if in the same condition!
SEEEYAAAAA

How much did you send them in total?

1800$ for miner and 200$ for upgrade.
Thats their price, if he didnt buy it from ebay voucher.

I wonder, how you havent made account in this forum before, newbie like me. If you have 2k$ to spend in crypto world you should be familiar with forums like this. Anywyas sorry for your loss and hope you search next time before making investments. Wish you luck.

That's exactly what I've done, registered here and searched for info about those miners.
Once I saw that it could be a scam, I lost interest, even if they look somehow legit and tempting...
Lets just hope that they will get punished for scamming people.

[xoox]

Ok guys, maybe another victim here! Order #200000394, 100% paid via wire tranfer.
It's an M10 machine with the overclock included (100% paid as well!).
Now, let's note that an online shop http://www.gamma*******.ch  has removed the YM miners from its site this morning.
1+1=2 if the math is not an opinion!
So it's not difficult to say now that it's scam (poor me and others). I have no evidence of people posting YT videos where they show their M10/20 working... apart from those YM videos showing a led screen that's mining at 25 TH...
But I'm not worried because the payment method is totally traceable, so if these guys will not refund me I'll denounce them to the police and take legal action if necessary. And I'll do this this week already.
This would discredit the seriousness of the Germans as well.
Otherwise, if the goods were to get me, well what to say? I'll buy other machines.
Let's see and feel free to contact me if in the same condition!
SEEEYAAAAA

How much did you send them in total?

Yes

1800$ for miner and 200$ for upgrade.
Thats their price, if he didnt buy it from ebay voucher.

I wonder, how you havent made account in this forum before, newbie like me. If you have 2k$ to spend in crypto world you should be familiar with forums like this. Anywyas sorry for your loss and hope you search next time before making investments. Wish you luck.

That's exactly what I've done, registered here and searched for info about those miners.
Once I saw that it could be a scam, I lost interest, even if they look somehow legit and tempting...
Lets just hope that they will get punished for scamming people.

I never partecipated to a forum but from now it will be a must for me.
So, yes I will be more cautious in the future, but anyway I've paid via wire transfer to an gmbh company and that is a legal guarantee for me. Does anyone know which is the more efficient alternative miner (not scam  ) in commerce?
Seeya!
P.S.
I will keep an eye here and I'll update any information I can provide to share with you guys!

[mamadmankan]

Ebay vouchers cant be real, why would they sell miner worth of 4k€ sell it for 1k€. Also selling history is not correct. They sell everyday 1-2 miners and there is no record of it on listing. They are bidding themselves.

[Darwin84]

Hello are you guys just cluing in.  I've been on ebay since the 90's and that account stunk of fraud.  That is exactly how you do it. You create dozens of ID's . maybe even buy some 99 cent USB cables and then use those accounts to generate feedback for the new fraud account which you are starting. I can't believe you guys can't see this. (especially xircom1 & 2) .

[xoox]

Email received from YM at 19:33 :
Dear ****,

yes, your order will be done very soon. You can check all dates right at our front page. If you like to cancel your order, please note, that you will be dropped from the queue as soon as we start the cancellation process. So please think about it and let us know your decision. Thank you.
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What do you think guys?

[bittalc1]

Email received from YM at 19:33 :
Dear ****,

yes, your order will be done very soon. You can check all dates right at our front page. If you like to cancel your order, please note, that you will be dropped from the queue as soon as we start the cancellation process. So please think about it and let us know your decision. Thank you.
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What do you think guys?

Just cancel it while you can, i mean if you are not that scumbag yesminer and now trying to sell shit here again and again.

[poodle63]

They offer excellent customer service, according to my past experience,
People do not accept cancelation, especially small lot production.
Due to there is not much rooms for the profit margin, there is 2 posinleilitys according to this reply mail.

One is they are hot selling, so they don't care your cancelation, potential buyer were waiting.
The other is there is no miner at all, they just postpone till get money from bank and then run away.

[bittalc1]

They offer excellent customer service, according to my past experience,
People do not accept cancelation, especially small lot production.
Due to there is not much rooms for the profit margin, there is 2 posinleilitys according to this reply mail.

One is they are hot selling, so they don't care your cancelation, potential buyer were waiting.
The other is there is no miner at all, they just postpone till get money from bank and then run away.

Third is: xoox is account from Yesminers and trying to lure more shit here, looking all smiled and like he dont care for the money that he lost.

[suchmoon]

Careful with Xircom. He/she is known to shill for scams, MAT and hashra to name a couple. Together with Jeff Jennings/lifeforcepools/Smarterhash.

[xoox]

I reply to bittalc1.
No bittalc1 unfotunatelly (or fortunatelly) I'm not a YM member. I just asked you guys an opinion about what to do.
I'm very confused...
Indeed I asked you guys to suggest me another trustable ASIC as alternative.
Anyway you're free to think what you want..

[poodle63]

I reply to bittalc1.
No bittalc1 unfotunatelly (or fortunatelly) I'm not a YM member. I just asked you guys an opinion about what to do.
I'm very confused...
Indeed I asked you guys to suggest me another trustable ASIC as alternative.
Anyway you're free to think what you want..

You may wait bitfury, they are going to release 16 chip,

Or you can check Bitmain S7, now batch 9 availed within a week.

kncminer no longer to sale ASIC miners for individual customer.

Sf100 from Sfard sold out.

Bfls monarch, not stable, I used to purchase 9 units, 2 DOA and 3 dead at firth month, the other 4 units over heating,
And Butterfly labs not admit my RMA.

[xoox]

poodle63, thank you very much! Just a question : if I order from BITMAIN itself and I pay in BTC do I have to pay duty fees? And if yes how can I calculate them? (I'm in Italy)
Thanks for help!

[HagssFIN]

poodle63, thank you very much! Just a question : if I order from BITMAIN itself and I pay in BTC do I have to pay duty fees? And if yes how can I calculate them? (I'm in Italy)
Thanks for help!

You pay VAT (22% in Italy) only.

[xoox]

poodle63, thank you very much! Just a question : if I order from BITMAIN itself and I pay in BTC do I have to pay duty fees? And if yes how can I calculate them? (I'm in Italy)
Thanks for help!

You pay VAT (22% in Italy) only.

Thank you for the information HagssFIN.