Yesminer M20 / M10

[Xircom2]

As i can see @beliza hacked his account and sold it to yesminers, fucking great! Check his trust!

Why is it so fucking great that my account got hacked ?
Just because you disagree with the things I say, dosent give you the right to hack my account.

You are right.Every member must be able to announce her/his opinions.If we will begin to hack each other just to bully, this indicated the maturity of our forum members.

Thanks, it just shows how unmature some forum users are. But it still dosent help me to get my account back from this @beliza who hacked me.

sent you some pm's with links on how to (supposedly) i assume you checked your spam email etc ..when an account pswd is changed i 'assume' they send you  a notice of such..perhaps that would help with proof

also set a 'secret password' like a 'childhood friend' etc (hell i just checked i did ..but damn'd if i remember doing it)

anyway all i have good luck let us know how it works out

(by the by....xircom2 sent me an email not a PM on this ..if that is any help.....so supposedly if it was not hacked they would not know my email..in that it was if i remember right a reply from my email to his email..thus ..he had to shoot me his email first..not vice versa...ie the spammer would know know it hacking his bitcointalk account)

again...assuming is it not the same bloke...but if it is not the same bloke and he had my email .i would 'suspect' some havoc on my toss away email account...so just saying..

lots of work to make up a story (or at least in my world seems to complicated to not be a hack)

but hell I belived BFL at one time..what do I know...but the above is outside of bitcointalk figured it was worth tossing it in the mix here for consideration of xircom's bona fides etc

irregardless of what you think by all means SET YOUR SECRET PASSWORD it has to help I'd think?

for what it is worth

Searing

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

Yes, I got hacked, so if any post are done by my account Xircom, then you know its not me. Im trying to restore my account through Admin, but its a mess to provide proof enough that im the real Xircom, so people who knows me very very well, like J4bberwock, Jeff from Smarterhash and others, please send an e-mail to admin re restorring my account to my company e-mail adress, that you know, but the forum dosent as proof.

[smarterhash]

As i can see @beliza hacked his account and sold it to yesminers, fucking great! Check his trust!

Why is it so fucking great that my account got hacked ?
Just because you disagree with the things I say, dosent give you the right to hack my account.

You are right.Every member must be able to announce her/his opinions.If we will begin to hack each other just to bully, this indicated the maturity of our forum members.

Thanks, it just shows how unmature some forum users are. But it still dosent help me to get my account back from this @beliza who hacked me.

sent you some pm's with links on how to (supposedly) i assume you checked your spam email etc ..when an account pswd is changed i 'assume' they send you  a notice of such..perhaps that would help with proof

also set a 'secret password' like a 'childhood friend' etc (hell i just checked i did ..but damn'd if i remember doing it)

anyway all i have good luck let us know how it works out

(by the by....xircom2 sent me an email not a PM on this ..if that is any help.....so supposedly if it was not hacked they would not know my email..in that it was if i remember right a reply from my email to his email..thus ..he had to shoot me his email first..not vice versa...ie the spammer would know know it hacking his bitcointalk account)

again...assuming is it not the same bloke...but if it is not the same bloke and he had my email .i would 'suspect' some havoc on my toss away email account...so just saying..

lots of work to make up a story (or at least in my world seems to complicated to not be a hack)

but hell I belived BFL at one time..what do I know...but the above is outside of bitcointalk figured it was worth tossing it in the mix here for consideration of xircom's bona fides etc

irregardless of what you think by all means SET YOUR SECRET PASSWORD it has to help I'd think?

for what it is worth

Searing

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

Yes, I got hacked, so if any post are done by my account Xircom, then you know its not me. Im trying to restore my account through Admin, but its a mess to provide proof enough that im the real Xircom, so people who knows me very very well, like J4bberwock, Jeff from Smarterhash and others, please send an e-mail to admin re restorring my account to my company e-mail adress, that you know, but the forum dosent as proof.

email sent - I'm happy to help out.

[Xircom2]

As i can see @beliza hacked his account and sold it to yesminers, fucking great! Check his trust!

Why is it so fucking great that my account got hacked ?
Just because you disagree with the things I say, dosent give you the right to hack my account.

You are right.Every member must be able to announce her/his opinions.If we will begin to hack each other just to bully, this indicated the maturity of our forum members.

Thanks, it just shows how unmature some forum users are. But it still dosent help me to get my account back from this @beliza who hacked me.

sent you some pm's with links on how to (supposedly) i assume you checked your spam email etc ..when an account pswd is changed i 'assume' they send you  a notice of such..perhaps that would help with proof

also set a 'secret password' like a 'childhood friend' etc (hell i just checked i did ..but damn'd if i remember doing it)

anyway all i have good luck let us know how it works out

(by the by....xircom2 sent me an email not a PM on this ..if that is any help.....so supposedly if it was not hacked they would not know my email..in that it was if i remember right a reply from my email to his email..thus ..he had to shoot me his email first..not vice versa...ie the spammer would know know it hacking his bitcointalk account)

again...assuming is it not the same bloke...but if it is not the same bloke and he had my email .i would 'suspect' some havoc on my toss away email account...so just saying..

lots of work to make up a story (or at least in my world seems to complicated to not be a hack)

but hell I belived BFL at one time..what do I know...but the above is outside of bitcointalk figured it was worth tossing it in the mix here for consideration of xircom's bona fides etc

irregardless of what you think by all means SET YOUR SECRET PASSWORD it has to help I'd think?

for what it is worth

Searing

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

Yes, I got hacked, so if any post are done by my account Xircom, then you know its not me. Im trying to restore my account through Admin, but its a mess to provide proof enough that im the real Xircom, so people who knows me very very well, like J4bberwock, Jeff from Smarterhash and others, please send an e-mail to admin re restorring my account to my company e-mail adress, that you know, but the forum dosent as proof.

email sent - I'm happy to help out.

Thanks Champ.

[suchmoon]

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

"Xircom" account hasn't posted anything since the password change. The shilling in this thread was done by the real "Xircom", not by the "hacker".

https://archive.is/hOiXx#selection-2989.0-2996.0
https://archive.is/G8Uix#selection-501.1-505.34

[adaseb]

Looks like they are still keeping up to date with the scam and everyday updating the order status dates.

[poodle63]

Looks like they are still keeping up to date with the scam and everyday updating the order status dates.

I'm wondering do they got physical miner? As my understand, 16nm chip is very expensive, and I didn't here any news from TSMC beside KNCminer.

[Gornidah]

Looks like they are still keeping up to date with the scam and everyday updating the order status dates.

Probably a script that do it automatically

[xoox]

Sorry, but what I don't understand is the fact that at this rithm (about 5 orders a day), since I'm at #393 in the queue I would have to wait other 66 days to have what I've paid for! Peter, you say that I will receive my goods very soon .
So what do you mean with "very soon"?
Please, I'm very confused give me a reason to thrust your Company.
Best regards,
**********i

From: Support@YesMiners.com
To: ***********************
Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: Contact Form
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:35:03 +0100

Dear ******,

yes, your order will be done very soon. You can check all dates right at our front page. If you like to cancel your order, please note, that you will be dropped from the queue as soon as we start the cancellation process. So please think about it and let us know your decision. Thank you.



Best regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Peter C. Winkler
YesMiners Customer Support
Support@YesMiners.com

YesMiners
Radickestraße 28
21079 Hamburg
Germany

I reported you my last 2 emails, the strange thing is that they still have this address in the email sign: Radickestraße 28
But in home/impressum ithe address is :

Impressum
YesMiners

PYC Pylon Consulting GmbH
Friedrichstraße 171
10117 Berlin
Deutschland

Telefon: Soon
Fax: Soon
Web: http://www.yesminers.com
E-Mail: support@yesminers.com

Geschäftsführer: Marijo Ruf
Inhaber: Marijo Ruf

As other I had a look to google map street view and noticed that there is another Company named MC-Office GmbH & Co.
So I surfed on their website: http://www.mc-office.de/kontakt/ and asked them if they know this PYC Pylon Consulting GmbH.
But till now I haven't received any responses!
Ok, I'm ready to cancel my order and maybe to denounce them!
Please if anyone has other news or want to collaborate to investigate on them let me know!
Bye

[bittalc1]

Sorry, but what I don't understand is the fact that at this rithm (about 5 orders a day), since I'm at #393 in the queue I would have to wait other 66 days to have what I've paid for! Peter, you say that I will receive my goods very soon .
So what do you mean with "very soon"?
Please, I'm very confused give me a reason to thrust your Company.
Best regards,
**********i

From: Support@YesMiners.com
To: ***********************
Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: Contact Form
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:35:03 +0100

Dear ******,

yes, your order will be done very soon. You can check all dates right at our front page. If you like to cancel your order, please note, that you will be dropped from the queue as soon as we start the cancellation process. So please think about it and let us know your decision. Thank you.



Best regards, Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Peter C. Winkler
YesMiners Customer Support
Support@YesMiners.com

YesMiners
Radickestraße 28
21079 Hamburg
Germany

I reported you my last 2 emails, the strange thing is that they still have this address in the email sign: Radickestraße 28
But in home/impressum ithe address is :

Impressum
YesMiners

PYC Pylon Consulting GmbH
Friedrichstraße 171
10117 Berlin
Deutschland

Telefon: Soon
Fax: Soon
Web: http://www.yesminers.com
E-Mail: support@yesminers.com

Geschäftsführer: Marijo Ruf
Inhaber: Marijo Ruf

As other I had a look to google map street view and noticed that there is another Company named MC-Office GmbH & Co.
So I surfed on their website: http://www.mc-office.de/kontakt/ and asked them if they know this PYC Pylon Consulting GmbH.
But till now I haven't received any responses!
Ok, I'm ready to cancel my order and maybe to denounce them!
Please if anyone has other news or want to collaborate to investigate on them let me know!
Bye

There is full thread in german section in this forum about this SCAM. Here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1138601.1400;topicseen . if you dont understand deutsch just use google translate. I advise you to cancel the order if YOU can as soon as you can!!!

[alfacro]

Something is interesting here, every member on this forum who bought miner has order number #200000XXX.
Does anyone has order number #100000XXX, #300000XXX or #400000XXX ?

[carlosmnk]

Something is interesting here, every member on this forum who bought miner has order number #200000XXX.
Does anyone has order number #100000XXX, #300000XXX or #400000XXX ?

I can guess they "use" each one for each currency accepted: #1 GBP; #2 EUR; #3 CHF; #4 USD
To comprove that i must do 3 buys, and i don't want to do...  
If that is true, then i cannot imagine they sold as many orders in EUR than in CHF...  one more nosense...

BTW, the more i see from yesminer the more i think this is a total SCAM. There is no doubt (or not reasonable doubt)... But if somewho can show any proof of the REAL existence of this miners, i'll send my apologies to yesminers...

[xoox]

Something is interesting here, every member on this forum who bought miner has order number #200000XXX.
Does anyone has order number #100000XXX, #300000XXX or #400000XXX ?

I can guess they "use" each one for each currency accepted: #1 GBP; #2 EUR; #3 CHF; #4 USD
To comprove that i must do 3 buys, and i don't want to do...  
If that is true, then i cannot imagine they sold as many orders in EUR than in CHF...  one more nosense...

BTW, the more i see from yesminer the more i think this is a total SCAM. There is no doubt (or not reasonable doubt)... But if somewho can show any proof of the REAL existence of this miners, i'll send my apologies to yesminers...

I'm #400000XXX (Italy - Eur).
Can someone tell me if https://enshop.bitmain.com/product.htm is trustable? I'd like to order a couple of s7...
Many thanks....
I like this forum!
 

[willi9974]

yes you can trust!

[bittalc1]

Something is interesting here, every member on this forum who bought miner has order number #200000XXX.
Does anyone has order number #100000XXX, #300000XXX or #400000XXX ?

I can guess they "use" each one for each currency accepted: #1 GBP; #2 EUR; #3 CHF; #4 USD
To comprove that i must do 3 buys, and i don't want to do...  
If that is true, then i cannot imagine they sold as many orders in EUR than in CHF...   one more nosense...

BTW, the more i see from yesminer the more i think this is a total SCAM. There is no doubt (or not reasonable doubt)... But if somewho can show any proof of the REAL existence of this miners, i'll send my apologies to yesminers...

I'm #400000XXX (Italy - Eur).
Can someone tell me if https://enshop.bitmain.com/product.htm is trustable? I'd like to order a couple of s7...
Many thanks....
I like this forum!
  

Let me remind you something

Ok guys, maybe another victim here! Order #200000394, 100% paid via wire tranfer.
It's an M10 machine with the overclock included (100% paid as well!).
Now, let's note that an online shop http://www.gamma*******.ch  has removed the YM miners from its site this morning.
1+1=2 if the math is not an opinion!
So it's not difficult to say now that it's scam (poor me and others). I have no evidence of people posting YT videos where they show their M10/20 working... apart from those YM videos showing a led screen that's mining at 25 TH...
But I'm not worried because the payment method is totally traceable, so if these guys will not refund me I'll denounce them to the police and take legal action if necessary. And I'll do this this week already.
This would discredit the seriousness of the Germans as well.
Otherwise, if the goods were to get me, well what to say? I'll buy other machines.
Let's see and feel free to contact me if in the same condition!
SEEEYAAAAA

[AJRGale]

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

"Xircom" account hasn't posted anything since the password change. The shilling in this thread was done by the real "Xircom", not by the "hacker".

https://archive.is/hOiXx#selection-2989.0-2996.0
https://archive.is/G8Uix#selection-501.1-505.34

yep, just double checked this, the logged password was changed on January 23, 2016, 12:05:27 PM, last Post from Xircom was January 22, 2016, 07:19:01 PM

There is no other logs in there with password changes Before the suspected "hack".

So..
A:  BTCT seclogs don't record password changes past certain dates(hold 1 month of records), it could of happened over a month back..
B: Xircom2 be lying about getting hacked.. worst case: could be a hacker themselves trying to pull some "Social Engineering" to hack the real Xircom? unlikely, probably just Xircom trying to cover up some mistakes..

or C: gotta live with the fact that there are asholes on here, that push my buttons

[suchmoon]

A:  BTCT seclogs don't record password changes past certain dates(hold 1 month of records), it could of happened over a month back..

I checked archives as far back as September, no password changes for Xircom.

https://archive.is/http://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

[AJRGale]

A:  BTCT seclogs don't record password changes past certain dates(hold 1 month of records), it could of happened over a month back..

I checked archives as far back as September, no password changes for Xircom.

https://archive.is/http://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

Yep, went though all the snapshots in that list, nothing other then the one presented.

[Xircom2]

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

"Xircom" account hasn't posted anything since the password change. The shilling in this thread was done by the real "Xircom", not by the "hacker".

https://archive.is/hOiXx#selection-2989.0-2996.0
https://archive.is/G8Uix#selection-501.1-505.34

yep, just double checked this, the logged password was changed on January 23, 2016, 12:05:27 PM, last Post from Xircom was January 22, 2016, 07:19:01 PM

There is no other logs in there with password changes Before the suspected "hack".

So..
A:  BTCT seclogs don't record password changes past certain dates(hold 1 month of records), it could of happened over a month back..
B: Xircom2 be lying about getting hacked.. worst case: could be a hacker themselves trying to pull some "Social Engineering" to hack the real Xircom? unlikely, probably just Xircom trying to cover up some mistakes..

or C: gotta live with the fact that there are asholes on here, that push my buttons

For fuck sake, I have been hacked. And it looks like moderator is in on it as well. Suddenly they are dead silence.
But heay, it just shows that some of the moderators are working with some of the forum members.
Im a private person and is not shilling, i'm just interested in a YM success sinces I have a bunch of money stock there.
I still do not get why people who dislike what ever can be aloud to get peoples e-mails and then hack. So in this case a moderator must have been working together with the hacker.
I give a damn if you believe its me or not, but i'm still fighting to get my account back.

I was warned by more and more big players to get out of the forum, since its runned more and more like the wild west. Sorry that the forum has become like that, but it has been fun for years to make reviews and stuff.

[xoox]

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

"Xircom" account hasn't posted anything since the password change. The shilling in this thread was done by the real "Xircom", not by the "hacker".

https://archive.is/hOiXx#selection-2989.0-2996.0
https://archive.is/G8Uix#selection-501.1-505.34

yep, just double checked this, the logged password was changed on January 23, 2016, 12:05:27 PM, last Post from Xircom was January 22, 2016, 07:19:01 PM

There is no other logs in there with password changes Before the suspected "hack".

So..
A:  BTCT seclogs don't record password changes past certain dates(hold 1 month of records), it could of happened over a month back..
B: Xircom2 be lying about getting hacked.. worst case: could be a hacker themselves trying to pull some "Social Engineering" to hack the real Xircom? unlikely, probably just Xircom trying to cover up some mistakes..

or C: gotta live with the fact that there are asholes on here, that push my buttons

Omg, yes! Sorry! I was wrong...
This is what is displayed on my "Recent Orders" list:

200000475    1/7/2016    **********    €112.81    Paid    
View Order
200000395    12/18/2015    **********    €2,007.56    Paid    
View Order
200000394    12/18/2015    **********    €2,007.56    On Hold    
View Order
200000393    12/18/2015    **********    $2,195.67    On Hold    
View Order
...note that the last row is in $....

And guys I wanna share with you the last @ received from YM:

AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Contact Form
YesMiners
Aggiungi ai contatti
27/01/2016
[Mantieni il messaggio nella parte superiore della Posta in arrivo]
A: '************'
Support@YesMiners.com

Dear *********,

please do not only check the order numbers. One number can be 1 miner, but also 100 miners for example. Right now we have shipped/hosted ~40% of all orders in 11 days. So the following ~60% will be done also quickly. You can check anytime you like all the dates at the front page.

Very soon means really quickly, but I do not have an exactly date yet, because our system is managing all the dates.

This is what they say....

...and thx willi9974!
Bye

[adaseb]

So what am I missing here? Is it that Xircom is a hacked account, and what was written here by Xircom is false?
or is the hack after that fact?

"Xircom" account hasn't posted anything since the password change. The shilling in this thread was done by the real "Xircom", not by the "hacker".

https://archive.is/hOiXx#selection-2989.0-2996.0
https://archive.is/G8Uix#selection-501.1-505.34

yep, just double checked this, the logged password was changed on January 23, 2016, 12:05:27 PM, last Post from Xircom was January 22, 2016, 07:19:01 PM

There is no other logs in there with password changes Before the suspected "hack".

So..
A:  BTCT seclogs don't record password changes past certain dates(hold 1 month of records), it could of happened over a month back..
B: Xircom2 be lying about getting hacked.. worst case: could be a hacker themselves trying to pull some "Social Engineering" to hack the real Xircom? unlikely, probably just Xircom trying to cover up some mistakes..

or C: gotta live with the fact that there are asholes on here, that push my buttons

Omg, yes! Sorry! I was wrong...
This is what is displayed on my "Recent Orders" list:

200000475    1/7/2016    **********    €112.81    Paid    
View Order
200000395    12/18/2015    **********    €2,007.56    Paid    
View Order
200000394    12/18/2015    **********    €2,007.56    On Hold    
View Order
200000393    12/18/2015    **********    $2,195.67    On Hold    
View Order

So you just sent this company $6,000 USD or so without any actual proof that they exist?

I feel really bad for everybody that was scamed by this company.