Yesminer M20 / M10

[Xircom2]

How did they get my e-mail ?
You do not know what proof I have send and the only thing you do is bullying. I did send a sigend meassage, but he could not use the BTC adress since I have never posted my BTC adress...
But he got all my info re. correspondance with other forum members, forum members know my company e-mail adress and could send it to him as proof.... Stil do not get other people right to hack other peoples accounts just because they dislike what ever is said...

Of course I don't know what you sent, that's why I asked. So you don't have a known address and can't recover the account. That doesn't make everybody else guilty.

Why do you think "they" got your e-mail? Your password was changed, not reset via e-mail. Maybe you got keylogged, or brute forced, or perhaps you're just making up this whole conspiracy.

https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

http://i.snag.gy/rtgTq.jpg

It dosent matter what you think as long as I can proof that im the owner of Xircom and has always been Xircom. Why dodnt you just look back and see the posts from other members who knows me privately… they know me and my identity. Why the hell are you not just looking at my posts in ex. Selling mining gear or my talk about breakoutboards or reviews of SP20 or even pics of my SP20 farm. You just so not want to acknowledge that I'm am who I claim to be

So you're Xircom huh? you lost your account on the 23rd yes? and after that you signed up for Xircom2 on the 24th.

So, do you claim all posts on here as Xircom? Therefore you are Shilling for YM? and being the Shitlord who thinks unfavourably to any hobbyists miners and bitcoin enthusiasts because you invested 10s of thousands into hardware?

Or are you going to say "No that was Beliza who did that!"?

Aint it funny that the negative feedback I gave you suddenly is gone from your account.... probably you are the one shilling working with the hacker and moderator. Just a very funny coincedence that all your negative feedbacks just gone.
You are the scammer and bad for the whole community. I feel sorry for Bitcointalk that people like you are around.

[suchmoon]

Aint it funny that the negative feedback I gave you suddenly is gone from your account.... probably you are the one shilling working with the hacker and moderator. Just a very funny coincedence that all your negative feedbacks just gone.
You are the scammer and bad for the whole community. I feel sorry for Bitcointalk that people like you are around.

I think your paranoia is getting worse, consider seeing a doctor.

Back on topic, have you received your miners last week as you were adamant you would? A tracking number at least?

[AJRGale]

Aint it funny that the negative feedback I gave you suddenly is gone from your account.... probably you are the one shilling working with the hacker and moderator. Just a very funny coincedence that all your negative feedbacks just gone.
You are the scammer and bad for the whole community. I feel sorry for Bitcointalk that people like you are around.

I think your paranoia is getting worse, consider seeing a doctor.

Back on topic, have you received your miners last week as you were adamant you would? A tracking number at least?

Exactly! Lets see some real evidence on this hardware

[Darwin84]

Wouldn't it be funny if Xircom = Yesminers .. who knows I've been right about everything in this thread so far.  I got .05 coin either way that says Yesminer = 1 person. After seeing those youtube videos I still can't stop laughing.

[xoox]

My last email guys:

RE: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Contact Form
*************
09:23
A: YesMiners
Good morning,
I haven't any trace yet of my requested refunds.
Can you update me please?
I'm sorry but things seem going bad, I just want let you know that if I will not have my money back within thursday, I will be constrained to take legal measures (police and legal actions) against your company.
Sorry, but I have to be clear.
Otherwise, I wish you a good job.
Best regards,
Ing. ************

[notlist3d]

My last email guys:

RE: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Contact Form
*************
09:23
A: YesMiners
Good morning,
I haven't any trace yet of my requested refunds.
Can you update me please?
I'm sorry but things seem going bad, I just want  let you know that if I will not have my money back within thursday, I will be constrained to take legal measures (police and legal actions) against your company.
Sorry, but I have to be clear.
Otherwise, I wish you a good job.
Best regards,
Ing. ************

Sadly I think you will find it's hard to go after these scam companies.  They set up with a rendering and try to sell miners.  NEVER buy a miner based off a rendering from unknown company.

Best of luck with legal action, but I think you will find them hard to go after.   Most likely they ride into sunset with most of money sent to them.  I almost got taken by one once terrahash, but paypal saved me.  They had looked great at one time... but slowly it fell apart and they rode away with most of money.  A few sued don't know if they actually got anything.  Winning a case and getting money are also two different things.

[poodle63]

Any open box video review yet?! wondering!

[abokhalel2]

Guys, I suggest closing this topic, it drags newbies to this scam, and gives it free advertisement. Some people read the title, and just google the company right away.

If you insist discussing this topic, maybe opening a new topic titled "victims of Yesminer", and over there, we can discuss the number of those victims, the legal measures they took, and how far they got with their refund cases.

[suchmoon]

Guys, I suggest closing this topic, it drags newbie to this scam, and gives them free advertisement. Some people read the title, and just google the company right away.

If you insist discussing this topic, maybe opening a new topic titled "victims of Yesminer", and over there, we can discuss the number of those victims, the legal measures they took, and how far they got with their refund cases.

Creating multiple threads can only increase confusion. PM the OP of this thread with a suggestion for a better title but you can also enter your own title when replying and take care of google that way.

[xoox]

AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: Contact Form
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A: '**********'
Support@YesMiners.com
Da:    YesMiners (Support@YesMiners.com) Questo mittente è nel tuo elenco Posta protetta.
Data invio:   martedì 2 febbraio 2016 21:08:42
A:   '**********'

Dear ************,

please allow our accounting a few days to proceed your refund. When it is done, you will get a message.

Best regards, Mit freundlichen Gr??en

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Tomorrow is their last day! I won't reply to them.

[yxt]

If someone needs a lawyer in Germany.
I know one who is something familiar with BTC and has observed yesminers already for some time.

[Xircom2]

Just an update from me.
2 days ago I asked for a complete refund of +18k Euro and got excact same answer from Mr. Winkler as Marvin.
My laywers are already informed and YM has until tomorrow to send us our refund.
Time will tell, but I think its going to be a long haul...
According to insite knowledge from our hosting center on iceland YM does actually has reserved space for 500 pc M20 miners...
this confuses me big time.
R
Xircom

[atmtech]

How much were they charged to reserve the space?   
Bet it wasn't a lot even if it was 20-30 thousand it just the cost of doing business for the scammers.
The more of the little things they do make the scam look legit,,

[J4bberwock]

Just an update from me.
2 days ago I asked for a complete refund of +18k Euro and got excact same answer from Mr. Winkler as Marvin.
My laywers are already informed and YM has until tomorrow to send us our refund.
Time will tell, but I think its going to be a long haul...
According to insite knowledge from our hosting center on iceland YM does actually has reserved space for 500 pc M20 miners...
this confuses me big time.
R
Xircom

They reserved hosting space and electrical power.
Doesn't mean they will put M20 in. Maybe some Bitfury, or even some 28nm gear from Bitmain/Avalon, who knows.
What is pretty sure now is if they put some hardware there, it'll be bought with money stolen from customers.

It's very unlikely to happen, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they refund a few customers who publicly posted here to get some advertising just like BFL did.
"you see, we are honest, we even send refunds upon request if you don't want to wait for the delivery of our awesome miners"

[Xircom2]

could be you are right that my money is being used to sponsor those miners.
I still wonder what those 19 PH that was released on the network yesterday came from? Bitfury are not ready yet?

Did you get my PM?

[tmfp]

Bitfury are not ready yet?

Are you sure about that?
Unverifiable word says they are mining with 16nm right now.

I still wonder what those 19 PH that was released on the network yesterday came from?

One thing's for sure, it isn't, and never will be, Yesminer.

[J4bberwock]

could be you are right that my money is being used to sponsor those miners.
I still wonder what those 19 PH that was released on the network yesterday came from? Bitfury are not ready yet?

Did you get my PM?

not PM, email, but yes, answer on its way later tonight

[Xircom2]

Bitfury are not ready yet?

Are you sure about that?
Unverifiable word says they are mining with 16nm right now.

I still wonder what those 19 PH that was released on the network yesterday came from?

One thing's for sure, it isn't, and never will be, Yesminer.

I do not think bitfury are ready since then BW should be able to supply miners as well then..

[xoox]

They'll not refund anyone guys. On Monday I'll have an appointment with the postal police office ...it should have been today but I'm busy.
I just wanna say a couple of things:
1) We, YM victims should act together
2)Let's Post videos on youtube to unveil the truth and spread the thing on other forums.
I'll try my best.
Have a nice day.

[Xircom]

Hi Guys,

One happy man here. I got my account back… but unfortunate with negative trust 😡
Still no news of our miners or refund from YM….