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August 19, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
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Winner = Ethereum clones.




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August 20, 2015, 01:44:24 AM
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Soooo, uh, is crypti closed source?

https://github.com/crypti?tab=repositories

Probably going to take it off list if there is no available source.
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August 20, 2015, 02:47:00 AM
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Table updated again. Changed a bunch of stuff to ? or Pending (needs link). Trying to be a bit more skeptical rather than just giving everything green check marks.

Still leaning towards leaving NuBits/NuShares and derivatives off. If it's only function is to maintain a market-peg, I don't think that really qualifies as a platform for decentralized trade and asset exchange. I guess I should be more specific about the requirements in the OP.

Thinking about removing Crypti if it's closed source.

Planning to add Syscoin, just haven't had a chance yet. If there's any other cryptos/coins/platforms/etc that you think should be considered, please let me know Smiley
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August 20, 2015, 03:26:56 AM
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I'm thinking I should separate automated transactions and Turing complete scripting into two categories. I've had some people tell me that as far as they know, only Ethereum really offers Turing complete scripting, and the automated transactions/scripting is (I guess) a subset of that.

As far as I understand, AT is a turing complete scripting as well as the Ethereum one.

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August 20, 2015, 04:37:56 AM
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I'm not sure if this is what is needed for the "market pegged asset" coinoUSD on the Nxt AE.
Here is a link:
https://coinomat.com/coinousd.php

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CoinoUSD is an asset tied to US dollar, 1 CoinoUSD = 1 dollar. CoinoUSD brings USD to NXT trading directly to NXT blockchain, without using exchanges. We maintain a gateway which allows to buy CoinoUSD asset for USD denominated payment systems. When you buy CoinoUSD asset is it transferred to you, and can be traded or sold back to us. It can even be withdrawn to your bank card!

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August 20, 2015, 07:54:49 AM
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I'm thinking I should separate automated transactions and Turing complete scripting into two categories. I've had some people tell me that as far as they know, only Ethereum really offers Turing complete scripting, and the automated transactions/scripting is (I guess) a subset of that.

As far as I understand, AT is a turing complete scripting as well as the Ethereum one.

AT = Smart contract (almost).

The only difference is the name and the approach. CIYAM named his AT's, no big deal. The Ciyam at's are just as good, if not better than ethereum's ones. See http://smartcontr.actor as well for an at generator (none of them are tested however, so use at own risk).
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August 20, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
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I'm not sure if this is what is needed for the "market pegged asset" coinoUSD on the Nxt AE.
Here is a link:
https://coinomat.com/coinousd.php

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What is CoinoUSD?
CoinoUSD is an asset tied to US dollar, 1 CoinoUSD = 1 dollar. CoinoUSD brings USD to NXT trading directly to NXT blockchain, without using exchanges. We maintain a gateway which allows to buy CoinoUSD asset for USD denominated payment systems. When you buy CoinoUSD asset is it transferred to you, and can be traded or sold back to us. It can even be withdrawn to your bank card!

Seems totally centralized (unlike bitshares approach). I guess I'll add it back with caveat about centralized and link to coino site.
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August 20, 2015, 01:37:04 PM
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I'm not sure if this is what is needed for the "market pegged asset" coinoUSD on the Nxt AE.
Here is a link:
https://coinomat.com/coinousd.php

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What is CoinoUSD?
CoinoUSD is an asset tied to US dollar, 1 CoinoUSD = 1 dollar. CoinoUSD brings USD to NXT trading directly to NXT blockchain, without using exchanges. We maintain a gateway which allows to buy CoinoUSD asset for USD denominated payment systems. When you buy CoinoUSD asset is it transferred to you, and can be traded or sold back to us. It can even be withdrawn to your bank card!

Seems totally centralized (unlike bitshares approach). I guess I'll add it back with caveat about centralized and link to coino site.

Yes, it is centralized and manage by coinomat.

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August 20, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
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Not sure if you're interested in this aspect of things, but BURST has a new Windows GUI wallet/plotter/miner

video with download links can be found here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FHvD3b30ks


Feel free to delete this post if you're not interested in this type of development for the coins.



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August 21, 2015, 12:25:05 PM
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I would suggest to add the date of the last modification to the chart. This could be usefull.

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August 21, 2015, 01:30:02 PM
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I would suggest to add the date of the last modification to the chart. This could be usefull.

Good point. I'll try to update this evening and add "last modified:xxxx-xx-xx" at the end.
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August 21, 2015, 04:27:35 PM
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Soooo, uh, is crypti closed source?

https://github.com/crypti?tab=repositories

Probably going to take it off list if there is no available source.

No reason to take it off the list. Sources for v0.1.9 will be released shortly. The later sources are coming step-by-step. Crypti is more like a startup, we are developing it with a team in the background. Not with an open source collective.

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August 21, 2015, 09:21:46 PM
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Great summary!

Qora's founder is not anonymous anymore.
He revelead its identity some months ago.
His name is Jelle Bourdeaud'hui, a Belgium programmer.
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August 22, 2015, 06:18:02 AM
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Great summary!

Qora's founder is not anonymous anymore.
He revelead its identity some months ago.
His name is Jelle Bourdeaud'hui, a Belgium programmer.

Is qora's source open? Can you give me the link? Smiley

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August 22, 2015, 08:10:32 AM
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Great summary!

Qora's founder is not anonymous anymore.
He revelead its identity some months ago.
His name is Jelle Bourdeaud'hui, a Belgium programmer.

Is qora's source open? Can you give me the link? Smiley

Complete open source, yes! Code can be found here https://github.com/Qoracoin/Qora

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August 22, 2015, 08:19:36 AM
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Qora's founder is not anonymous anymore.
He revelead its identity some months ago.
His name is Jelle Bourdeaud'hui, a Belgium programmer.

If no one can pronounce his name, does it still qualify as not anonymous?

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August 22, 2015, 12:54:34 PM
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If no one can pronounce his name, does it still qualify as not anonymous?
If his name were related to the topic, would the topic be called the "2.0 throwdown thread"?

Qora is a great coin Cheesy AT's before ETH.

Burst DOES have turing complete AT's, if you would actually read http://ciyam.org/at. I don't know who is saying the at's aren't turing complete....whoever is saying that needs to go and rtfm

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Automated Transactions (AT) is a technology created by CIYAM Developers which provides "Turing complete smart contracts" for any blockchain that implements it.

Burst implemented it, and so did Qora, however Burst was first to do so.
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August 22, 2015, 12:59:36 PM
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If no one can pronounce his name, does it still qualify as not anonymous?
If his name were related to the topic, would the topic be called the "2.0 throwdown thread"?

Qora is a great coin Cheesy AT's before ETH.

Burst DOES have turing complete AT's, if you would actually read http://ciyam.org/at. I don't know who is saying the at's aren't turing complete....whoever is saying that needs to go and rtfm

But I'll make it easy for you all:

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Automated Transactions (AT) is a technology created by CIYAM Developers which provides "Turing complete smart contracts" for any blockchain that implements it.

Burst implemented it, and so did Qora, however Burst was first to do so.

Is there a cross chain decentralized exchange available for Burst/Qora?

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August 22, 2015, 01:09:37 PM
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Not yet, as far as I know. But it is to be planned for the upcoming releases. I'll ask a Qora developer.

If no one can pronounce his name, does it still qualify as not anonymous?
If his name were related to the topic, would the topic be called the "2.0 throwdown thread"?

Qora is a great coin Cheesy AT's before ETH.

Burst DOES have turing complete AT's, if you would actually read http://ciyam.org/at. I don't know who is saying the at's aren't turing complete....whoever is saying that needs to go and rtfm

But I'll make it easy for you all:

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Automated Transactions (AT) is a technology created by CIYAM Developers which provides "Turing complete smart contracts" for any blockchain that implements it.

Burst implemented it, and so did Qora, however Burst was first to do so.

Is there a cross chain decentralized exchange available for Burst/Qora?
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August 22, 2015, 02:55:09 PM
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Thanks for info and suggestions Smiley

Table updated with Syscoin, CoinoUSD, Qora founder, and I also added some links at the bottom of the table (and date of last update).

I'm still thinking about removing Crypti since it's closed source. I don't think any of the technology can really be verified if the source isn't available. I will try and see what the timeframe is for them to release source code.

Lemme know if you have any other info, suggestions, suggested reading, cat pictures, links, corrections, etc.
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