The 2.0 throwdown thread

[Sebastien256]

Will try to update and add melodius soon, Sebastien256. What's the difference between NXT monetary system and assets in other platforms? Not sure I see distinction...

Hi jwinterm,

take a look at the section "highly customizable":
http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/

These are things you can't do with Nxt asset (except the "Exchangeable" features). For example, you can create a POW MS coins inside the Nxt ecosystem with only a few mouse clicks.

In the long term future, more functions will be given to the MS, such as the ability to use MS currency to buy and sell assets instead of only with NXT, such as it is the case for now.

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[runpaint]

Excellent topic, this is a great resource for the community. 

I also think we should add more feedback along the lines of "does it work?"

Some of these platforms could conceivably be used by your grandmother, while some of them are frustrating user experiences that aren't exactly ready for prime time.

[box0214]

Hi jwinterm,

Nice table so far.  
I like it.

Here are some more things on Nxt.

You can add in centralized apps:
http://melodius.me/
It an itunes type website that used the Nxt decentralized marketplace.

Nxt has also a built-in wallet decentralized Monetary system:
http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/

The last one is, afaik, an unique feature of Nxt.

Thank you.

Will try to update and add melodius soon, Sebastien256. What's the difference between NXT monetary system and assets in other platforms? Not sure I see distinction...

if you dive deeper into MS, there are certain things you cannot do vs assets. some just off the top of my head are:

Monetary System:
- Create Minable coins based off of (sha256/scrypt/keccka) as a way for distribution. (think sidechains)
- Crowdfunding
- Prevent the ability to exchange a coin with others except the owner

-- One scenario that can be played out is that one of the MScoins could potentially be worth more than nxt coins. Which will therefore solve the "initial distribution" people keep complaining about. If one of the mscoins were to be a main coin, and leave nxt coin as a "transaction" toll fee payment only. it can leave out  all the speculators that doesn't provide any improvement into the system and a potentially evolve the community into using this new coin instead of nxt. just an idea for now.



You can use my account to test out nxt features on testnet.
go here: http://goo.gl/sS96ue -- use the pass 321 -- if its empty i'll refill it.

Also this version i'm developing on is mobile responsive ready. so you can use it on your phone. i dont believe any other Core wallet is accessible using a smartphone with this many features. its still being worked on so its not 100% functional on every tab yet.

you should also add a new column for "mobile responsive ready?"... thats a major factor if you can access the core wallet on the phone or not.

[thezman007]

First of all, THANK YOU for this thread! It's awesome! I am going through all of these things (which just lead me farther down the rabbit hole LOL) and have seen a few changes since your latest update of Sep 1st. I don't own any XCR, as least not yet if I buy any, but it is apparently only closed source for about a quarter and THEN is released on GitHub. To call it completely closed source is not quite accurate. I was turned off by it at first as we all know that open source is really the only way to go, but can see where they are coming from to try and keep their "edge" from clones. I also agree with possibly dropping Burst as I can't see any real movement since what, April?

Just my .02

[jwinterm]

First of all, THANK YOU for this thread! It's awesome! I am going through all of these things (which just lead me farther down the rabbit hole LOL) and have seen a few changes since your latest update of Sep 1st. I don't own any XCR, as least not yet if I buy any, but it is apparently only closed source for about a quarter and THEN is released on GitHub. To call it completely closed source is not quite accurate. I was turned off by it at first as we all know that open source is really the only way to go, but can see where they are coming from to try and keep their "edge" from clones. I also agree with possibly dropping Burst as I can't see any real movement since what, April?

Just my .02

Thanks, it's been a busy few weeks between work (end of fiscal year) and kids (school starting), but I'll try and do a bit of an overhaul this weekend.

[BitcoinNational]

@J
agree cool thread "jw's throwdown000" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153740.new#new
fire up the old TALK wallet an PM me a tipping address //edit// no? okay i guess but still like this thread
Crypto-2.0 :: {data}  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206569.msg12666580#msg12666580

[jabo38]

Some people might be looking at this thread to see which projects to work on. 

NEM has some really amazing development going on with the core code with four talented main devs working on it daily.  

But NEM does need a really good UI and/or UX guy to work on the wallet.  

NEM also has very easy to use JSON API's with a lot of features to support different kinds of transactions types (NEM is a blockchain platform, not a coin), for third party devs to build apps on.  

If you are looking for a blockchain to work on, please send me a message.  

And here is the Github https://github.com/NewEconomyMovement

And here is some API documentation http://bob.nem.ninja/docs/ and https://www.krakenlabs.org/NCC/

[jwinterm]

Small update.

Removed the average block time as that was totally empty/question marks. I was thinking it would be cool to add a row for number of active nodes, but after looking into it for ten or fifteen minutes, that would have been all question marks too. I thought about adding number of wallets/accounts, but that seems a poor measure, as someone can programatically create thousands in a few minutes (for instance see wallets created on 10 Sept here: http://burstcoin.biz/ ).

Also, added some unique features for NEM and NXT.

BN, sorry, but deleted my TALK wallet many moons ago. You did give me an idea though, maybe if I can ever pick just one 2.0 system, then I'll create a BTCtalk asset to distribute

[Sebastien256]

As a new feature, the Shapeshift exchange is now integrated into the Nxt wallet.
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-6-1e/

[crypti PR]

Crypti is now Open Source!

[sidhujag]

Im a dev for syscoin.. we also do certs and aliases ontop of offers (marketplace)...

can you update?

[sebastien1234]

Yes, Jag Sidhu is correct (he should also be added to the development team for Syscoin), also the 18% premine was 15% ICO(mostly stolen from Moolah), 2% dev fund 1% bounties.

[jwinterm]

OK, will update syscoin and crypti in next few days.

[Sebastien256]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1213839.0

Coinoutlet use Nxt messaging in their backend.
This should be added as a centralized application.

TY

[crypti PR]

OK, will update syscoin and crypti in next few days.

Just a friendly reminder to note that Crypti is open source since a few weeks.

[jwinterm]

OK, will update syscoin and crypti in next few days.

Just a friendly reminder to note that Crypti is open source since a few weeks.

I know, I know, need to update. Have you guys gotten any good entries to DAPP contest yet?

[jwinterm]

OK, small update - Crypti is opensourced, Syscoin has beta marketplace, Nxt has some bitcoin atm using them as sidechain, and I updated my coins I own section.

[crypti PR]

OK, will update syscoin and crypti in next few days.

Just a friendly reminder to note that Crypti is open source since a few weeks.

I know, I know, need to update. Have you guys gotten any good entries to DAPP contest yet?

Don't worry. It was just a friendly reminder. Thank you for updating it.


We have about 5 developers asking us questions. We are ramping up the marketing on Node.js and JavaScript websites in the coming days. Right now we mostly advertised it on cryptocurrency sites.

[50cent_rapper]

Right now we mostly advertised it on cryptocurrency sites.

That is waste of time. 

[crypti PR]

Right now we mostly advertised it on cryptocurrency sites.

That is waste of time.