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[Cryptology]

Thanks for bringing this up. Clearly there is much more in the XT agenda than just block sizes.

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[danielW]

Somebody should post those quotes to the reddit crowd. (I dont have energy for that place anymore).

[Holliday]

Somebody should post those quotes to the reddit crowd. (I dont have energy for that place anymore).

Why bother. Reddit (as far as I am concerned) is a place where practically no valuable information is exchanged.

[sergio]

Bitcoin XT is all about centralization, and it is bound to die by itself. The problem is that it is causing a division in the  Bitcoin community and causing many of loyal Bitcoin users to lose lots of money situation which is not acceptable.

Furthermore the banning of IP address in the code is totally against the spirit of Bitcoin.

Lets all stick to bitcoin core and hope for the best, at least bitcoin core is about decentralization and financial freedom.

Consensus should have been respected, the reason sometimes consensus is hard to reach is because when it is not respected we have problems like the ones we are having now.

Lets hope Bitcoin does not fall bellow $200.

I predict Bitcoin Core will survive, after  all it is the honeybadger of money, but the honeybadger of money has been hurt very badly and this time it may take a long time to recover.

Bitcoin Core as it is currently and for many years to come works fine.

Now with the mess that bitcoin xt is causing the need for larger blocks goes down.

The reason bitcoin xt wil die on it own, is simple as the block reward goes down every 4 years and there is no reason to pay transaction fees, mining goes down as the block reward goes down, that in addition to the cost 20 times higher of keeping a database 20 times bigger, as mining goes down it is vulnerable to a 50% attack.

The reason bitcoin core does not have this problem, is that as block reward goes down, somehow that is compensated with mining fees going up, and to run a full node is 20 time cheaper due to the 20 times smaller database.

Mining fees going up it is not a problem since it is still a magnitude of times cheaper than paypal, visa, wester union, etc.
For micro transactions it is not a problem, since most people will not go though the trouble of a double spend to steal $1 dollar.



In regards to moorse law, it is valid for a given period of time, but not forever since after some time physical limitations imposed by mother nature are reached, like for example an electron can travel so fast, the max speed is the speed of light, and son on, as it can be seen with computers already over 10 years ago, every 2 years the speed was doubling, well now it is more like every 3 or 4 years for the speed of a cpu to double, or a hard disk to double in capacity.
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It really sucks what is going on.

Lets all stick to Bitcoin Core, it is not just money, it is financial freedom.
Bitcoin core is the revolution, Bitcoin xt is the counter revolution.
I would not be surprised if big brother was behind bitcoin xt.

[iCEBREAKER]

Any interest and or consideration I had for XT and the 'team' behind it just went out the window.

I will not touch XT and for that matter entertain anything coming from the XT 'team' anymore, no matter what explanation and or changes they come up with after this.

For me personally XT is as good as dead.

XT isn't dead until we lure it into NotXT's trap, then demonstrate why attempting a hard fork is a bad idea (especially for first movers).

[Thekool1s]

These things can through away Bitcoin into more problems.  So we must need to stick with Bitcoin Core.

I have been familiarizing myself with the issue and have to agree. Stick to core, there are many OTHER ways to achieve code fixes, larger block sizes, ect then a hard fork. The thought of this hard fork scares me to the point I'm ready to go into fiat until everything stablizes... It's making me sick....

Yup same thoughts here, thinking of selling btc right now and when we are the lowest buy again, Lets just hope bitcoin survives or else we can expect some altcoin which will take over probably litecoin etc.

[conspirosphere.tk]

XT isn't dead until we lure it into NotXT's trap, then demonstrate why attempting a hard fork is a bad idea (especially for first movers).

That is another false flag, cypherdoc.  A sign of desperation by your team.

[glub0x]

Just to clarify, changing the blocksize is a fundamental change, it changes the protocol Bitcoin.
It needs everybody to adopt it otherwise it won't work.

This doesn't, it changes one application but anyone could run a different application that would work as well without any problem.


That being said i think they should have only put the blocksize into this bitcoin xt fork. putting other change into XT is just giving the stick to be beaten.
I still support XT, if any anonimity problem should arise, anybody could write a new version without this tracking, it would work perfectly.

[Amph]

and what about dynamic IP? this thing can not work also blacklisting all ip may lead to some genuine users that were using the same malicious ip not for bad intentions

this change even more my view on the XT client, it's not something that i would call bitcoin anymore

[Mickeyb]

Damn guys, this gave me chills this morning when I read it. Is this 100% sure or is it just some kind of FUD to try and discredit the XT?

[kano]

This code doesn't actually block anything, just marks it as being lower priority than non-Tor traffic. It should never do anything unless there's an active DoS attack via Tor. So perfect accuracy isn't really needed here: Tor access still works fine and will do even if you run a Bitcoin node and Tor node on the same machine.

That said, I'll make a mental note to switch to the second URL when I work on this code again (might be soon, given the ongoing DoS attacks via Tor we're seeing).

It explicitly says it disconnects addresses with low to negative priority.

This would be the first time in history that anyone was blacklisted from using Bitcoin if XT forks, it's a big deal and against the fundamental reasons Bitcoin is used.

Well, as long as you ignore what Luke-Jr put into the default Gentoo Bitcoin release switched on by default ...
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524512
Note, he repeated that again with a later version, so I guess XT would be the 3rd?

[JackH]

I think we can clearly see now that XT is just an altcoin and nothing but a hostile takeover from a few people that are most likely bought by an interest group. Stay away from XT, it is cancer to the Bitcoin community.

[ChetnotAtkins]

XT is a nebulous interest group's attempt to gain control over the development of the largest cryptocurrency. At this point, if you understand or care in any way about Bitcoin, you simply cannot support it.


It is really a shame that Gavin has chosen such a destructive path, I wonder how high the price of his moral integrity was.

[iGotSpots]

This is really fucked up. Basically a 'feature' like this is the anti-ethos to what Bitcoin was created for, just like increasing the blocksize squeezes out the users it was made to help most

Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..

[vgo]

You can not discuss this here. Please move to altcoin discussion.

Agree. This is not Bitcoin .

[alexr_96]

You can not discuss this here. Please move to altcoin discussion.

Agree. This is not Bitcoin .

Disagree, hard forks are part of bitcoin.

[Sector]

You can not discuss this here. Please move to altcoin discussion.

Agree. This is not Bitcoin .

Disagree, hard forks are part of bitcoin.

There are more than half of a million users on my sites, and I will never use an xt. It's not a Bitcoin.

[vgo]

You can not discuss this here. Please move to altcoin discussion.

Agree. This is not Bitcoin .

Disagree, hard forks are part of bitcoin.

Better call satoshi... 

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

This is really fucked up. Basically a 'feature' like this is the anti-ethos to what Bitcoin was created for, just like increasing the blocksize squeezes out the users it was made to help most

Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but its on the way for core too...

You have privacy issues but dont care about being vulnerable to DDos?

 set -listen=0
 set -disableipprio=0

Problem solved. Now, nobody will know where you are relaying from.

+void InitIPGroups(CScheduler *scheduler) {
+    // If scheduler is NULL then we're in unit tests.
+    if (scheduler) {
+        // Don't use in regtest mode to avoid excessive and useless HTTP requests, don't use if the user disabled.
+        if (GetBoolArg("-disableipprio", false) || Params().NetworkIDString() == "regtest" || !fListen)
+            return;
+        // If we have a proxy, then we are most likely not reachable from the internet, so don't use.
+        proxyType dummy;
+        if (GetProxy(NET_IPV4, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_IPV6, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_TOR, dummy))
+            return;
+    }

[iGotSpots]

This is really fucked up. Basically a 'feature' like this is the anti-ethos to what Bitcoin was created for, just like increasing the blocksize squeezes out the users it was made to help most

Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but its on the way for core too...

You have privacy issues but dont care about being vulnerable to DDos?

 set -listen=0
 set -disableipprio=0

Problem solved. Now, nobody will know where you are relaying from.

+void InitIPGroups(CScheduler *scheduler) {
+    // If scheduler is NULL then we're in unit tests.
+    if (scheduler) {
+        // Don't use in regtest mode to avoid excessive and useless HTTP requests, don't use if the user disabled.
+        if (GetBoolArg("-disableipprio", false) || Params().NetworkIDString() == "regtest" || !fListen)
+            return;
+        // If we have a proxy, then we are most likely not reachable from the internet, so don't use.
+        proxyType dummy;
+        if (GetProxy(NET_IPV4, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_IPV6, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_TOR, dummy))
+            return;
+    }

No, I personally do not care. My name and face are everywhere on Twitter and in altcoins

The potential loss of privacy, while a fairly big one, is not the main issue