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May 16, 2021, 09:47:45 PM
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Napoli once more fought back and secured its position for the Champions League qualifier. The most pressing question will be what happens to Juventus Turin should they miss the Champions League?

Can you guys imagine Ronaldo kicking in the UEFA European League next year? I highly doubt he would even consider doing that? Pirlo's time will probably come to an end if he fails to qualify for the UCL. It may not be fair but missing the UCL is hard not only for the club, but also for the fans and all superstars. Who knows what's left of Juve in 6 weeks from now?
Let me fix this: Napoli secured temporarily a position for CL since if they lose their next game and Inter get a draw + Juve win then they are out.
For Juve, regarding Milan wasting 2 precious points and facing Atalanta next, then what a luck Pirlo has! Unless Napoli winning and Atalanta playing with its second team and their goalkeeper as striker, then getting a CL spot should be very possible for Juve.

Yes I meant temporarily, but I wasn't fully aware of the last play day. However, in the Series A what counts is head to head so Atalanta is qualified anyway because if Juventus wins their game they are on par with Atalanta if Atalanta loses. But then Atalanta wins head to head against Juve.

Napoli is likely to win and Milan definitely able to win against a team that doesn't have to win and is already celebrating the UCL qualification. Ultimately, Juventus also haven't their game yet. We know from this season that they are prone to negative surprises.

You are right though Juventus still has a decent chance, but if they don't take that opportunity a couple of changes will happen in Turin.

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May 16, 2021, 10:14:18 PM
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Napoli once more fought back and secured its position for the Champions League qualifier. The most pressing question will be what happens to Juventus Turin should they miss the Champions League?

Can you guys imagine Ronaldo kicking in the UEFA European League next year? I highly doubt he would even consider doing that? Pirlo's time will probably come to an end if he fails to qualify for the UCL. It may not be fair but missing the UCL is hard not only for the club, but also for the fans and all superstars. Who knows what's left of Juve in 6 weeks from now?
Let me fix this: Napoli secured temporarily a position for CL since if they lose their next game and Inter get a draw + Juve win then they are out.
For Juve, regarding Milan wasting 2 precious points and facing Atalanta next, then what a luck Pirlo has! Unless Napoli winning and Atalanta playing with its second team and their goalkeeper as striker, then getting a CL spot should be very possible for Juve.

Yes I meant temporarily, but I wasn't fully aware of the last play day. However, in the Series A what counts is head to head so Atalanta is qualified anyway because if Juventus wins their game they are on par with Atalanta if Atalanta loses. But then Atalanta wins head to head against Juve.

Napoli is likely to win and Milan definitely able to win against a team that doesn't have to win and is already celebrating the UCL qualification. Ultimately, Juventus also haven't their game yet. We know from this season that they are prone to negative surprises.

You are right though Juventus still has a decent chance, but if they don't take that opportunity a couple of changes will happen in Turin.
Milan fails to secure the qualifying card for the Champions League in this round now they are forced to beat Atalanta in Bergamo, the next round.
Juventus got their hopes up again after these clubs wanted them to fail against Inter early in this round.
A final round between Juventus, Milan and Napoli, and the fight will be the 2 remaining tickets for the Champions League !!
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May 16, 2021, 10:21:36 PM
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Milan lost some points today but I'm always pessimistic about it.
Napoli and Milan will go in Cl, and Juventus will go Europa league.

Milan need to play versus Atalanta but they will play 3 days before a final of Coppa Italia and they will be tired for the game with Milan.

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May 16, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
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Milan lost 2 important points today and give a chance to juventes to get a place in CL.
I think juvi will be one of the top 4 if they win the next match against bologna, if  milan win or draw against atalanta juvi will pass to champions league.
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May 16, 2021, 10:36:20 PM
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Napoli once more fought back and secured its position for the Champions League qualifier. The most pressing question will be what happens to Juventus Turin should they miss the Champions League?
Can you guys imagine Ronaldo kicking in the UEFA European League next year? I highly doubt he would even consider doing that? Pirlo's time will probably come to an end if he fails to qualify for the UCL. It may not be fair but missing the UCL is hard not only for the club, but also for the fans and all superstars. Who knows what's left of Juve in 6 weeks from now?
Let me fix this: Napoli secured temporarily a position for CL since if they lose their next game and Inter get a draw + Juve win then they are out.
For Juve, regarding Milan wasting 2 precious points and facing Atalanta next, then what a luck Pirlo has! Unless Napoli winning and Atalanta playing with its second team and their goalkeeper as striker, then getting a CL spot should be very possible for Juve.
Juventus may miss the Champions League for another non-sporting reason, because the story with the Super League is still not over, Juventus has not announced its withdrawal from it, so it is not entirely clear how UEFA can punish the club. On the sporting side, of course, the big news is that Milan couldn't win against Cagliari, although I think Pirlo would have preferred Napoli to lose points against Fiorentina and leave Juventus in fourth place before the last round. And now it turns out that not everything depends on Juventus and a loss of points from Milan or Naples is necessary. It is symptomatic that Pioli does not rule out Milan's non-appearance in the top four and does not consider it a failure.
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May 16, 2021, 11:04:04 PM
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Milan lost some points today but I'm always pessimistic about it.
Napoli and Milan will go in Cl, and Juventus will go Europa league.

Milan need to play versus Atalanta but they will play 3 days before a final of Coppa Italia and they will be tired for the game with Milan.

Indeed. I was surprised that Milan did not score today , not even talking about taking the win but 0-0 ? I did not expect this at all.

With Juventus going to Europa League , I think it's the end of an era with Bonucci , Chelinni and Buffon all should retire in summer and Ronaldo should go and join United as they need him.

In the last game , Milan will go all-in trying to take at least 1 point or the win itself.

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May 16, 2021, 11:13:34 PM
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As a Milan fan I am extremely afraid that the following scheme will happen. The season is a huge fail for Juventus with or without the Cup therefore Atalanta will win it and in return they will do everything to beat us in the final game. Also we all know who runs the Italian football federation and that the refs will also play a part in the game if needed. But with our away form this season and the 0-3 loss against Atalanta earlier this season the revenge will come and Milan will be back in the Champions League.
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May 17, 2021, 03:02:38 AM
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Indeed. I was surprised that Milan did not score today , not even talking about taking the win but 0-0 ? I did not expect this at all.

With Juventus going to Europa League , I think it's the end of an era with Bonucci , Chelinni and Buffon all should retire in summer and Ronaldo should go and join United as they need him.

In the last game , Milan will go all-in trying to take at least 1 point or the win itself.
Bonucci can have a few seasons at top levels but he shown in AC Milan (with only one season) that he does not have ability to be a captain or a leader of defense system. If Juventus need a leader of defense system, they should give it to Mathis De Ligt. That guy is young and shown his leadership ability in Ajax and with his third season in Serie A and Juventus, I think he is adaptive enough to the league and become the core of Juventus defense system.

AC Milan has a challenge in the last day of Serie A and sure they have to begin that day with intention to win, not a draw.

Napoli yesterday managed to win their match and have control for the fourth position. Just win the last match and go to Champions League.

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May 17, 2021, 05:20:34 AM
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Milan lost some points today but I'm always pessimistic about it.
Napoli and Milan will go in Cl, and Juventus will go Europa league.

Milan need to play versus Atalanta but they will play 3 days before a final of Coppa Italia and they will be tired for the game with Milan.

The competition for the CL zone has not ended yet, we need to see the results of the last round (38th).
Atalanta vs Milan
Napoli vs Verona
Bologna vs Juventus

Juventus still has the chance if Milan and Napoli fail to win the last match. Atalanta is qualified already for the CL as even if they will lose against Milan and Juventus win against Bologna which means that they will have the same points at the end but Atalanta is better in head to head against Juventus. Interesting fact is about the game between Napoli vs Verona, because Napoli lost to Verona with 1-3 but Verona has a bad run in their last matches.

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May 17, 2021, 08:46:08 PM
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The competition for the CL zone has not ended yet, we need to see the results of the last round (38th).
Atalanta vs Milan
Napoli vs Verona
Bologna vs Juventus

Juventus still has the chance if Milan and Napoli fail to win the last match. Atalanta is qualified already for the CL as even if they will lose against Milan and Juventus win against Bologna which means that they will have the same points at the end but Atalanta is better in head to head against Juventus. Interesting fact is about the game between Napoli vs Verona, because Napoli lost to Verona with 1-3 but Verona has a bad run in their last matches.

Everything right, but Atalanta will play the final of Coppa Italia too this week so they will be tired and probably with few energies on their body compared to Milan player.

I still think there is 80% qualification for Milan and 20% for Juventus.

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May 18, 2021, 03:39:22 AM
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The competition for the CL zone has not ended yet, we need to see the results of the last round (38th).
Atalanta vs Milan
Napoli vs Verona
Bologna vs Juventus

Juventus still has the chance if Milan and Napoli fail to win the last match. Atalanta is qualified already for the CL as even if they will lose against Milan and Juventus win against Bologna which means that they will have the same points at the end but Atalanta is better in head to head against Juventus. Interesting fact is about the game between Napoli vs Verona, because Napoli lost to Verona with 1-3 but Verona has a bad run in their last matches.
Look at the fixture, AC Milan would have a difficult match with Atalanta but Atalanta don't have reason to fight more in Serie A. They already have a solid second position and a win in the last match does not change anything.

The final match in Coppa Italia is different because it can bring a title for Atalanta. I think they will focus their resources for that match, rather than the match with AC Milan.

Napoli will be able to win against Verona. Sum it up, Juventus will have small chance to take over AC Milan or Napoli position on the table.

These activities can be early signals for the transfer of Ronaldo out of Turin. I think Ronaldo should wait till the end of the season to do so if he really want to leave Juventus.

Cristiano Ronaldo fuels Juventus transfer speculation by moving his cars from Turin garage

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May 18, 2021, 02:55:34 PM
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Where is he going? Will you return to MU? He's old enough, he's retired. Maybe he will become unproductive again.

But I have heard that the problem has been a heavy burden for Juventus' finances. Because his achievements are not worth Ronaldo's price. Although jersey sales have increased, fans are happy with the title.

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May 18, 2021, 02:59:38 PM
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The competition for the CL zone has not ended yet, we need to see the results of the last round (38th).
Atalanta vs Milan
Napoli vs Verona
Bologna vs Juventus

Juventus still has the chance if Milan and Napoli fail to win the last match. Atalanta is qualified already for the CL as even if they will lose against Milan and Juventus win against Bologna which means that they will have the same points at the end but Atalanta is better in head to head against Juventus. Interesting fact is about the game between Napoli vs Verona, because Napoli lost to Verona with 1-3 but Verona has a bad run in their last matches.
Look at the fixture, AC Milan would have a difficult match with Atalanta but Atalanta don't have reason to fight more in Serie A. They already have a solid second position and a win in the last match does not change anything.

The final match in Coppa Italia is different because it can bring a title for Atalanta. I think they will focus their resources for that match, rather than the match with AC Milan.

Napoli will be able to win against Verona. Sum it up, Juventus will have small chance to take over AC Milan or Napoli position on the table.

These activities can be early signals for the transfer of Ronaldo out of Turin. I think Ronaldo should wait till the end of the season to do so if he really want to leave Juventus.

Cristiano Ronaldo fuels Juventus transfer speculation by moving his cars from Turin garage

You are missing the fact that Atalanta always play with the idea to destroy and humiliate Milan. Just watch their matches against us and against some other teams and you will understand what I mean. It will be battle until the final whistle and knowing that one certain team is backed by the federation it won't be a fair one. The good thing is that the match is in Bergamo.
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May 18, 2021, 03:08:59 PM
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We have Lazio - Torino today, odds are quite interesting (there is a trap maybe?) and since I prefer to see Torino staying in Serie A, I hope they can get at least 1 point. Lazio players has absolutely nothing to lose or win, dunno if they will play with complete first squad or give more time for other players, at the end they will stay 6th whatever their points will be in their 2 remaining games.

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May 18, 2021, 05:50:33 PM
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We have Lazio - Torino today, odds are quite interesting (there is a trap maybe?) and since I prefer to see Torino staying in Serie A, I hope they can get at least 1 point. Lazio players has absolutely nothing to lose or win, dunno if they will play with complete first squad or give more time for other players, at the end they will stay 6th whatever their points will be in their 2 remaining games.
Agree, but even though Torino lost this match I'm sure Torino will still be in Serie A because Torino will play against Benevento in his last match and that will still have a chance of getting points. In addition, Torino also won in terms of the number of goals from Benevento so yes, even though in these two matches Torino lost, Torino will still be in Serie A as well. Even so I still bet on this match for Over 2.5 goals @1.67, have a good match!

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May 18, 2021, 06:04:46 PM
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We have Lazio - Torino today, odds are quite interesting (there is a trap maybe?) and since I prefer to see Torino staying in Serie A, I hope they can get at least 1 point. Lazio players has absolutely nothing to lose or win, dunno if they will play with complete first squad or give more time for other players, at the end they will stay 6th whatever their points will be in their 2 remaining games.

Yeah, the odds are really interesting but the reason is obvious also. Torino need to get at least one point to guarantee staying in the Serie A. Like you said, Lazio have no aim left from now on as they guaranteed qualifying for the EL and have no chance to climb up. I think that Torino will get the point needed for them to stay.

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May 18, 2021, 06:08:40 PM
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We have Lazio - Torino today, odds are quite interesting (there is a trap maybe?) and since I prefer to see Torino staying in Serie A, I hope they can get at least 1 point. Lazio players has absolutely nothing to lose or win, dunno if they will play with complete first squad or give more time for other players, at the end they will stay 6th whatever their points will be in their 2 remaining games.
Agree, but even though Torino lost this match I'm sure Torino will still be in Serie A because Torino will play against Benevento in his last match and that will still have a chance of getting points. In addition, Torino also won in terms of the number of goals from Benevento so yes, even though in these two matches Torino lost, Torino will still be in Serie A as well. Even so I still bet on this match for Over 2.5 goals @1.67, have a good match!

In my opinion, it is worth betting on the victory of Torino or a draw in the match against Lazio. Lazio has strengthened his position in European competitions for the next season. They will not rise above 6th place. And Torino needs to consolidate his place in Serie A for the next season. For this they need one point.
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May 18, 2021, 06:50:24 PM
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Lazio vs Torino will be an interesting match. Despite losing their last match to Roma, they are still keeping a large point gap from Roma. I don't think they can easily beat Torino today, because their last match against Torino was tough, although Lazio won after F. Caicedo scored their last goal 90+8 minutes into the game.
Torino are few points from the relegated zone, and won't want to lose the game, they have to win or draw against Lazio, in order to avoid getting into the relegation zone.



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May 18, 2021, 08:23:12 PM
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Napoli once more fought back and secured its position for the Champions League qualifier. The most pressing question will be what happens to Juventus Turin should they miss the Champions League?
Can you guys imagine Ronaldo kicking in the UEFA European League next year? I highly doubt he would even consider doing that? Pirlo's time will probably come to an end if he fails to qualify for the UCL. It may not be fair but missing the UCL is hard not only for the club, but also for the fans and all superstars. Who knows what's left of Juve in 6 weeks from now?
Let me fix this: Napoli secured temporarily a position for CL since if they lose their next game and Inter get a draw + Juve win then they are out.
For Juve, regarding Milan wasting 2 precious points and facing Atalanta next, then what a luck Pirlo has! Unless Napoli winning and Atalanta playing with its second team and their goalkeeper as striker, then getting a CL spot should be very possible for Juve.
Juventus may miss the Champions League for another non-sporting reason, because the story with the Super League is still not over, Juventus has not announced its withdrawal from it, so it is not entirely clear how UEFA can punish the club. On the sporting side, of course, the big news is that Milan couldn't win against Cagliari, although I think Pirlo would have preferred Napoli to lose points against Fiorentina and leave Juventus in fourth place before the last round. And now it turns out that not everything depends on Juventus and a loss of points from Milan or Naples is necessary. It is symptomatic that Pioli does not rule out Milan's non-appearance in the top four and does not consider it a failure.

I don't believe they will pull off the Super League. Look at the fan protests in Manchester. It's clear the fans don't want that and I can't see how it is supposed to work out when your fanbase is against you. I don't know what the attitude of Italian fans is towards the Super League, but I think the majority doesn't want it. It is similar to the Nations League. Who the heck watches the Nations League? I even forgot until recently that Portugal won it last time. I think I didn't watch a single game.

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May 18, 2021, 08:38:43 PM
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Where is he going? Will you return to MU? He's old enough, he's retired. Maybe he will become unproductive again.

But I have heard that the problem has been a heavy burden for Juventus' finances. Because his achievements are not worth Ronaldo's price. Although jersey sales have increased, fans are happy with the title.

He did in the past years too.
Apparently, he does this every year before the summer period to take his cars to his vacation spots. The truck is from a Portuguese company.
Probably if Juve will not be in the Champions Ronaldo will want to leave and will be sold, we will see less than a week left until the reckoning.

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