Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[Boristhecat]

But even despite this defeat, not everything is so bad - Roma is still above both Juventus and Inter and is only one point behind Milan and Napoli. I think that Mourinho will benefit from this defeat by setting up the mind set of players correctly. Sometimes a major defeat is necessary in order to more objectively evaluate your strengths and work harder. I liked his interview after the game where he said that one 0-4 defeat is better than four 0-1 defeats.

As a matter of fact, I thought Roma was going to have a better result. There was even a chance that Roma could actually win this match. However, this did not end up happening. Roma suffered a very humiliating loss in this match. However, it is understandable why something like this happened. They had made some very rookie mistakes in that match. The mistakes that were made at this level cannot be forgiven. As a result of those mistakes, they were punished very badly. In that match, Roma had a few chances to make something out of those chances, but they were not able to take them. Hopefully, they are going to work on the problems that they have found in order to fix them. The team has only played five matches so far this season, so there is still a lot of room for improvement.

No one expected such a result, but for Serie A, unexpected failures of the leaders are already commonplace. I don't agree with your analysis, Roma didn't make any rookie mistakes. They were just unlucky with the fact that Udinese scored first and then just sat in defense and played counter attacks. This is a killer tactic against a team that must try to win at all costs. On this day the Udinese were lucky. This is a good lesson and Roma needs to get used to the fact that many opponents will play against it in this way.

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[KTChampions]

Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.

Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

As I said initially, Pogba took a big risk when he chose a conservative method of treatment instead of surgery - in the end he came to the very beginning, but lost a whole month.
Interestingly, different sources are now writing opposite things about his prospects - some news say that he will definitely miss the World Cup, and others that he will only be out for 6 weeks.

[boris singer]

Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.

Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

I just heard about this, did he really change his mind so he decided to have an operation because if I'm not mistaken he only decided on Rehabilitation a few weeks before?
With this the possibility when talking about him having to rest for 2 months hints his chances of being one of the players at the world cup has vanished because this will definitely be the focus of healing for Pogba.

[Alanaz]

In the second half of this match they looked like they wanted to be open and this is where their problem lies.
Precisely with their open game being one of the boomerangs in this match, they let their defense line not be too tightly guarded like in the first half which made 3 goals they had to accept in the second half.
This is something that is unexpected but still something that is understandable considering this is Serie A.

It's like that, I was surprised by the result shown by Roma, they lost very badly, well, but it's like they say, they have to recover and get ahead, the truth is I think Mou tried to put a team much more focused on the attack and wanted to have this formation but I think it's not the right one, the defense line looked very fragile and didn't have the right consistency, at this point they shouldn't lose anymore, I see Milan AC very strong and I don't know but they should react because another loss like This and it could mean very bad things for Mou and his team, I think what happened was a very bad decision in the change of strategy, and for more, it is an Italian team, its strong point has always been the defense.

Well, and at the press conference, one of Mou's words was:

"We had a good chance at the start with Dybala who was our best player tonight. But Udinese... every time they countered either they created a chance or they scored."

Mourinho added: "The referee? When you lose 4-0 you don't talk about the referee. I prefer to lose a game 4-0 rather than four games 1-0. This was ugly, both for us and the fans. But it's life, and we move on."

Also one of the words that I liked about this bitter pill was that he preferred to lose under such a wide score than to lose 4 games, because they have started the season with a very good run, but like everything in football things sometimes It doesn't go well and that gives them a clear message, that they have to raise the level more to be at the level of the best.
Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/roma-udinese-jose-mourinho-referee-27908141

This is normal in any team, Italy is a team that has a lot to show, there is still a lot left in Serie A, and I think that despite everything it is very interesting.

I like what Mou said in this press conference because indeed in this case he also realizes what he has to improve to make Roma bounce back, but is it true that with this he will return to using the same formation as 3-4-2-1 because if they wanted to attack maybe it would be better to put more pressure with 4-3-3 or maybe by putting pressure on 3-5-2 because in my opinion when you want to attack with a 3-4-2-1 formation, this is definitely enough. burden the defenders when receiving a quick counterattack.

[mamesso]

Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.

Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

As I said initially, Pogba took a big risk when he chose a conservative method of treatment instead of surgery - in the end he came to the very beginning, but lost a whole month.
Interestingly, different sources are now writing opposite things about his prospects - some news say that he will definitely miss the World Cup, and others that he will only be out for 6 weeks.

Paul Pogba who was expected to be new ammunition for Juventus had to be absent for months right before Serie A started. Juventus really hope Pogba recovers from his injury sooner than the appointed time, but Pogba's steps make Juventus worried because he prefers conservative treatment methods over surgery. Pogba's healing process is ongoing, but it is not certain when he will be able to return to play. Most likely he will miss the World Cup, because the World Cup will start on November 21 2022.

[zuzie]

AS Roma losing heavily to Udinese was a total disappointment to Jose Mourinho and the players. But it's a normal thing for a team to lose, moreover Juventus and several big clubs in Seria Often loss to average clubs. Even in other League like Bundesliga, Where Monchangladbach will beat almighty Bayern Munich. So I don't blame Jose Mourinho for their defeats, rather he needs more money to sign more defenders for the club because most of their problems is as a result to poor defense. AS Roma would be bounced back in their next game and this is probably one of Jose Mourinho worst defeats in the Seria A so far this new season.

On the other hand, I don't think Roma's defense is in serious trouble, we can see that since the new Serie A season start, this is the second time Roma's defense has been penetrated by opponents after Juventus, in the previous four match Roma's defense is really tough, even a team like Juventus who have gone through some change difficulty to get into the defense of Roma. I don't consider the recent 4-0 defeat to Udinese to expect Mourinho to get rid of some of their defenders, it was quite good and the chemistry between the defenders and the midfield was also very good. Overhauling the Roma defense will bring new problems and it will take time to rebuild the chemistry between players.

[BitcoinAccepted]

At the moment there is really only 1 team that has really been able to convince in my view and that is Atalanta Bergamo. They have been at the absolute top in Italy for a few years and have also once reached the quarter-finals / semi-finals of the Champions League. A logical step would be that they would become champions one day, even if individually, of course, they do not have the best team. Based on market value I don't think they are even in the top 10 but as a team they play great. Except for last season. It was good before that. They are now first, Inter Milan also have a bad start this season.

[S A KHAIR]

Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.
Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

As I said initially, Pogba took a big risk when he chose a conservative method of treatment instead of surgery - in the end he came to the very beginning, but lost a whole month.
Interestingly, different sources are now writing opposite things about his prospects - some news say that he will definitely miss the World Cup, and others that he will only be out for 6 weeks.

Paul Pogba who was expected to be new ammunition for Juventus had to be absent for months right before Serie A started. Juventus really hope Pogba recovers from his injury sooner than the appointed time, but Pogba's steps make Juventus worried because he prefers conservative treatment methods over surgery. Pogba's healing process is ongoing, but it is not certain when he will be able to return to play. Most likely he will miss the World Cup, because the World Cup will start on November 21 2022.

I see no reason to think that Juventus' performance will improve if Pogba returns to Juventus. We haven't seen any good performances from Pogba in the last few seasons. So even if he is with the Juventus squad, it won't have a big impact on their performance. I think he can fix his fitness before the World Cup. He continues to try his best to join the squad very quickly.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.
Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

As I said initially, Pogba took a big risk when he chose a conservative method of treatment instead of surgery - in the end he came to the very beginning, but lost a whole month.
Interestingly, different sources are now writing opposite things about his prospects - some news say that he will definitely miss the World Cup, and others that he will only be out for 6 weeks.

Paul Pogba who was expected to be new ammunition for Juventus had to be absent for months right before Serie A started. Juventus really hope Pogba recovers from his injury sooner than the appointed time, but Pogba's steps make Juventus worried because he prefers conservative treatment methods over surgery. Pogba's healing process is ongoing, but it is not certain when he will be able to return to play. Most likely he will miss the World Cup, because the World Cup will start on November 21 2022.

I see no reason to think that Juventus' performance will improve if Pogba returns to Juventus. We haven't seen any good performances from Pogba in the last few seasons. So even if he is with the Juventus squad, it won't have a big impact on their performance. I think he can fix his fitness before the World Cup. He continues to try his best to join the squad very quickly.

Basically cohesiveness that can improve team performance, indeed if one of the regular players is not on the lineup will slightly change the style of the game
By the way, if you want to see the players who contribute the most in each team we can check the list of assists  or top scores, well from there we can see who are the important players in the team.

[DU18]

At the moment there is really only 1 team that has really been able to convince in my view and that is Atalanta Bergamo. They have been at the absolute top in Italy for a few years and have also once reached the quarter-finals / semi-finals of the Champions League. A logical step would be that they would become champions one day, even if individually, of course, they do not have the best team. Based on market value I don't think they are even in the top 10 but as a team they play great. Except for last season. It was good before that. They are now first, Inter Milan also have a bad start this season.

Atlanta managed to be at the top of the Italian league standings by achieving positive results without even losing, without having many star players and also a market value that is far below that of teams such as Juventus and Intermilan, but in fact atlanta has been giving many surprises every seasons by being at big four of the standings, but even so, I have a little doubt that they will be able to win the scudetto this season, because as usual every mid-season atlanta will definitely experience a decline in performance so make they slowly move away from the scudetto.

[Furious 7]

At the moment there is really only 1 team that has really been able to convince in my view and that is Atalanta Bergamo. They have been at the absolute top in Italy for a few years and have also once reached the quarter-finals / semi-finals of the Champions League. A logical step would be that they would become champions one day, even if individually, of course, they do not have the best team. Based on market value I don't think they are even in the top 10 but as a team they play great. Except for last season. It was good before that. They are now first, Inter Milan also have a bad start this season.

Atlanta managed to be at the top of the Italian league standings by achieving positive results without even losing, without having many star players and also a market value that is far below that of teams such as Juventus and Intermilan, but in fact atlanta has been giving many surprises every seasons by being at big four of the standings, but even so, I have a little doubt that they will be able to win the scudetto this season, because as usual every mid-season atlanta will definitely experience a decline in performance so make they slowly move away from the scudetto.

But indeed this is still early although it is something good because the longer the focus of the big teams will be on the Europa League and Champions League but it is different from Atalanta now because indeed they are still focused on Serie A considering that now they are not in the Europa League and Champions League.
This is something that is quite good for them but on the other hand it depends on them who have to work hard because if you look at last season they lost because of a busy schedule so their rotation was messed up in the middle of the season, and now their schedule is still very safe whether they will mess up again like last season or not depends on the scheme that will be run later.

[blue Snow]

I like what Mou said in this press conference because indeed in this case he also realizes what he has to improve to make Roma bounce back, but is it true that with this he will return to using the same formation as 3-4-2-1 because if they wanted to attack maybe it would be better to put more pressure with 4-3-3 or maybe by putting pressure on 3-5-2 because in my opinion when you want to attack with a 3-4-2-1 formation, this is definitely enough. burden the defenders when receiving a quick counterattack.

Roma looks like a blunder when putting Tammy in front without Dybala as a supply. When I look at the previous how they win, Dybala is used as a shadow to mess up the defender, at this time I can't see them on Udinese. As I know, there is 1 lack of Mourinho, His strategy is very easy to read by opponents. He doesn't improve it on every match, so that the opponent can turn it off and surpass them whatever the formation.

[terrorJR]

I see no reason to think that Juventus' performance will improve if Pogba returns to Juventus. We haven't seen any good performances from Pogba in the last few seasons. So even if he is with the Juventus squad, it won't have a big impact on their performance. I think he can fix his fitness before the World Cup. He continues to try his best to join the squad very quickly.

We have to be able to tell the difference between the EPL and Serie A because it's clear they can't be compared.
Pogba's performance in the EPL did not go well because the tension and style of play did not fit him there. But the big chance for Serie A is clearly still there. The problem is we have to wait until January for this because I read that now Pogba has agreed to the operation and it will most likely take 2 months or more to fully recover.

[TopT3ns]

At the moment there is really only 1 team that has really been able to convince in my view and that is Atalanta Bergamo. They have been at the absolute top in Italy for a few years and have also once reached the quarter-finals / semi-finals of the Champions League. A logical step would be that they would become champions one day, even if individually, of course, they do not have the best team. Based on market value I don't think they are even in the top 10 but as a team they play great. Except for last season. It was good before that. They are now first, Inter Milan also have a bad start this season.

They still can't do good teamwork so it will still be difficult to get a win, so at least they should be able to control the problem first because it is the most important thing to still have good strength and it will be easy to get a win.

[hd49728]

Roma looks like a blunder when putting Tammy in front without Dybala as a supply. When I look at the previous how they win, Dybala is used as a shadow to mess up the defender, at this time I can't see them on Udinese. As I know, there is 1 lack of Mourinho, His strategy is very easy to read by opponents. He doesn't improve it on every match, so that the opponent can turn it off and surpass them whatever the formation.

Dybala adapted very well in Roma and he connected well enough with Tammy and other players. Tamny on the other hands, seems to be lack of both luck and accuracy for his shots. It is different than the past season but I think he will return to his best, with his skills, confidence and efforts as well as psychological support from Mourinho.

Roma needs their attacking players to minimize opportunity wasting because with Mourinho tactic, one goal is a big difference to become winner or loser. If Roma lets their opponents score leading goal first, they will be in more troubles. They should score leading goal and secure it to get three points.

[Sebas.tian]

At the moment there is really only 1 team that has really been able to convince in my view and that is Atalanta Bergamo. They have been at the absolute top in Italy for a few years and have also once reached the quarter-finals / semi-finals of the Champions League. A logical step would be that they would become champions one day, even if individually, of course, they do not have the best team. Based on market value I don't think they are even in the top 10 but as a team they play great. Except for last season. It was good before that. They are now first, Inter Milan also have a bad start this season.

Atlanta managed to be at the top of the Italian league standings by achieving positive results without even losing, without having many star players and also a market value that is far below that of teams such as Juventus and Intermilan, but in fact atlanta has been giving many surprises every seasons by being at big four of the standings, but even so, I have a little doubt that they will be able to win the scudetto this season, because as usual every mid-season atlanta will definitely experience a decline in performance so make they slowly move away from the scudetto.

I don't think, Atalanta will reduce their performance in this season because their coach has changed so many things from the team that will make them to finish this season well compared to last season that made their performance reduced at the end of the tournament. Now that Atalanta has moved to the top, I don't think they will drop down until they achieve this season title, because their strikers are well organized to work together to ensure they achieve many goals that will help them to remain unbeatable through out the tournament.

[babo]

Roma has one big problem: Jose Mourinho.
an inept and expensive technician
if he takes the money spent on this useless manager and spends it on players, he definitely does a better thing

it is no coincidence that the results are visible

Roma has one the worst defeat in early days of this season even few weeks back mostly peoples were feeling they are title race contender and in this match against Udinese they were better in all statics but sadly completely fail to convert any of their chance which is big setback for Mourinho and his team if they will take as lesson for them surely they are going to be had better results in coming matches because right now most of the teams at top in Serie A are struggling badly in quality as Inter, Juventus and now Roma but surely things will be clear soon.

Napoli and Atlanta are currently leading table even in last season these teams were at top and then slip most chances same results are going to have in this season as well because these teams fail to keep quality on same level which is big concern for them.

Atalanta last season went very badly, but it happens.
As a fan I understand and do not make problems of this.
This season will go better, they are first but the data is partial: it depends on which matches they played, maybe they were simple compared to the others.

[MCobian]

Roma looks like a blunder when putting Tammy in front without Dybala as a supply. When I look at the previous how they win, Dybala is used as a shadow to mess up the defender, at this time I can't see them on Udinese. As I know, there is 1 lack of Mourinho, His strategy is very easy to read by opponents. He doesn't improve it on every match, so that the opponent can turn it off and surpass them whatever the formation.

Dybala adapted very well in Roma and he connected well enough with Tammy and other players. Tamny on the other hands, seems to be lack of both luck and accuracy for his shots. It is different than the past season but I think he will return to his best, with his skills, confidence and efforts as well as psychological support from Mourinho.

Roma needs their attacking players to minimize opportunity wasting because with Mourinho tactic, one goal is a big difference to become winner or loser. If Roma lets their opponents score leading goal first, they will be in more troubles. They should score leading goal and secure it to get three points.

There is no doubt that Paulo Dybala has indeed managed to adapt to the Roma game, even in the previous game we could see Dybala's good
cooperation with other Roma players. The problem with Dybala is that Dybala's shooting accuracy is still poor, Mourinho acknowledged this after
Roma was defeated by Udinese. But I'm sure Dybala will be given special training by Mourinho, so that his shooting accuracy will improve and
I'm sure Dybala can do that.

I also agree with you that the weakness of Mourinho's strategy is that they prioritize winning and prefer to play defensively. So Roma is more waiting
for the opponent to attack and make mistakes. However, this strategy will be high risk if the opposing team manages to score a goal first. Usually
Roma players will panic and they will make a lot of mistakes. Mourinho should be more flexible with his strategy, facing weaker teams, Roma should
play more attacking and dare to put high pressure on opposing players. Moreover, the quality of Roma players allows Mourinho to carry out
an attacking strategy. But it seems difficult to expect Mourinho to change his strategy, because Mourinho is a stubborn person.

[blackbold]

Atalanta last season went very badly, but it happens.
As a fan I understand and do not make problems of this.
This season will go better, they are first but the data is partial: it depends on which matches they played, maybe they were simple compared to the others.

Atalanta have been very dangerous for several years only bad luck not going to the champions league this season. Even Pep when playing against atalanta praised the atalanta team and even lost many goals that should have been goals. Hopefully this season Atalanta will return to the UCL or other European zones.

[Kayeshlyn]

Bad news, Pogba goes under surgery, and he will stay out 2 months.

Meanwhile Atalanta won again and now they are in the top, I don't think it will last but whatever.

As I said initially, Pogba took a big risk when he chose a conservative method of treatment instead of surgery - in the end he came to the very beginning, but lost a whole month.
Interestingly, different sources are now writing opposite things about his prospects - some news say that he will definitely miss the World Cup, and others that he will only be out for 6 weeks.

Since moving to Juventus from Manchester United, Pogba has not yet participated in any competitive matches because of a meniscus injury to his knee.

In fact, Paul Pogba has chosen surgery after first opting for rehabilitation in order to compete in the World Cup in Qatar and maintain his spot on the French national squad. However, if it takes two months to recover from surgery, Pogba is probably going to miss the World Cup in Qatar.