Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[Velvet78]

It is very difficult to rely on Juventus to win against Torino. The odds are also a good proof for that. Torino's current condition in the league is not much different than Juventus. There is only a two-point gap between them. The last time Torino beat Juventus was April 26, 2015. This is a really big domination by Juventus. But it is more like a draw game rather than being close to a Juventus win now. There are still significant defensive issues in Juventus defense line. I think Allegri's time is running out day by day so he should do his best to get into a better position in the Serie A at least.

I think that both teams to score is worth giving a shot. Its odd is 1.97 which is really tempting. 

[poodle63]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.

It seems like that juventus was making time trial for allegri to proves his realiability on juventus become even longer which is a non sense team for now. If that will be chelsea and allegri would be sacked after the lose for the second time lol. This team has become a poor team for now due to the financial problem. Juventus can't sacked and hire the new coach anytime. The end of juventus.

[Shasha80]

What about Torino - Juventus? I believe it will be an epic game since both teams are quite in the same level and the failure mode is activated there..

This match is very important for Juventus. Because in the last 5 matches they have managed to win only one match. If they can't get back on track yet, they won't be able to fight for Champions League qualification. Torino is not in good form. They have lost three and drawn one of their last four matches. If Juventus can't win against such a team then we won't see Juventus in the top 10 of the points table.

Juventus appearance is indeed very bad this season, Juventus has lost too many points. Next Juventus will face Torino, which Juventus should be able
to beat Torino easily. Because apart from Juventus having better quality players, the previous meeting Juventus managed to beat Torino. So indeed there is
no reason for Juventus to fail to win, if it turns out that Juventus failed to win against Torino. I think the condition of Juventus is really precarious and
sacking Allegri must be done immediately.

Because Juventus must be able to beat Torino to get back on the right track and restore the confidence of its players. So Allegri has to show his
seriousness that he wants to make Juventus bounce back by making Juventus beat Torino. I think the match Torino vs Juventus will be an important match
for the future of Juventus, we'll see if Juventus can bounce back or get worse. Even though I'm not a Juventus fan, but I'm quite sad that Juventus who have
a pretty good history in Serie A have to perform badly this season, I hope Juventus can beat Torino.

[AndySt]

Do they have the winning mentality to win it, or are they taking advantage of a season where the other teams are bad? That’s a big difference because in one of them they are winning and will keep on winning and they are going to be great, in the other we are talking about a team that would be losing a good chunk of games after the other teams gets better. So, I feel like we need to give napoli a bit more time to see how they will do, we still have absolutely no idea how they will do a month from now, or two months from now. If they stay at the top until the half of the season is over, then they can probably win the league title by keep playing that way.

I am not sure that even the leadership until the middle of the season will necessarily be provided by Scudetto Napoli, because we have already seen something like this last season and yet Napoli's efforts were not enough for the end of the season. On the other hand, when a team leads for the second consecutive season, it should have a positive effect on the team's self-confidence. Also, a lot depends on whether top teams like Inter, Milan and especially Juventus will be able to solve their mental problems and problems with the squad, because the current Napoli has enough potential at least to spend the season more smoothly and become a champion, unlike competitors. With all due respect to other clubs, I do not yet see them having the same potential as the above three to consistently spend the entire season among the leaders of the table. However, quite a few rounds have passed yet, and some estimates can be started only after at least the middle of the season.

[TopT3ns]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.

It seems like that juventus was making time trial for allegri to proves his realiability on juventus become even longer which is a non sense team for now. If that will be chelsea and allegri would be sacked after the lose for the second time lol. This team has become a poor team for now due to the financial problem. Juventus can't sacked and hire the new coach anytime. The end of juventus.

Allegri has a very difficult task because he has to improve a team that seems to have no enthusiasm to play and get a win, the teams at Juventus need full support that can inspire them to get back up and be eager to score goals, if not then then Juventus are struggling to recover and maybe Allegri will fail to fix Juventus.

[Rengga Jati]

and so many others already know that they are not fighting for the title, they are just fighting not to be relegated or to end up in a good position

I know your assumptions are justified. Some teams are not fighting for the title but they are fighting to stay in the highest competition in Italy (Serie A).
About the title race, I have to agree about Milan, Juventus, Inter and Napoli. But for the last team, I think they have failed a lot of seasons despite having managed to end the season in second place several times.

For matchday 10, I don't think there are many interesting matches. Many favorites will probably win their respective match, so I think the multy bet on matchday 10 is great.
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Serie A has indeed become one of the leagues that is quite impressive, it can be seen from the difference in points which is indeed quite a bit from rank to rank. Because of this, Serie A often surprises at the end of the season who holds the title. Right now, all still have a chance to be victorious.
Especially some teams like Juventus and Inter actually played quite well and they are now trying to take over the position above it. But it won't be easy either

[Ayers]

As I understand it, the clowning in Juventus continues - instead of dismissing the coach, he is given additional powers: Juventus goes into closed mode and the players will not leave the base until the next match against Torino  WTF? As I understand it, there is some kind of struggle within the team and management is on the side of the coach, but is it really possible to solve the problem with such methods? Now angry players can deliberately lose to Torino with some ridiculous score like 0-5. I won't be surprised.

As far as I understand and according to the rumours, Juventus did not sack Allegri because the compensation they had to pay was too big. As we know that Allegri is still under contract with Juventus until June 2025.
In addition, Agnelli also told the media that Juventus' poor performance this season cannot be blamed solely on Allegri, this is a problem for the team and the board of directors, so they will try to find the source of the problem and restore their spirits. Their game against Torino could probably be one that will prove how, and how far they have recovered.

I'm not sure if that's a good reason, because if Juventus lose their place in the Champions League next year, it will cost a lot more than any compensation for breaking the contract with Allegri.
All in all, I think that the game against Torino can confirm my suspicions - if the players want Allegri to be sacked, then we will see some amazing result.

I have been saying this for a long time ago and I really don't think the bad performance of Juventus is only because of the fault of Allegri. He did well to make a good team before the start of the season. But the players that he brought in getting injured. Now I really don't think that it's his fault.

I think that the team should have been performing well compared to what they have been doing anyway. It is not the fault of the coach that they are not being able to form any kind of coordinated attack on the field. Even if the coach is doing very bad with the tactics I think Juventus is a team that has the players to do much better.

Yes, Allegri is still the coach of Juventus just because they don't have enough money to sack him. But we have to understand that the coach is not going to go to the field and play for the players. And if we just look at how Juventus have been playing we have to agree that this is not because the coach set bad tactics only.

[hashrateproducts]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.

Date for him to get sack, not confident about that because there's still chances for him to back to winning streak. Allegri just trying his best to get Juventus back to winning ways but it seems his best is not good enough. He needs more players in the team because the ones available are either injured or not fit for games. The old lady's having a critical time presently and fans are enduring with them, but hopefully they can still bounced back to their best fo only if the keyplayers bounce back to fitness and physique pretty normal and working good.

[X-ray]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.

Date for him to get sack, not confident about that because there's still chances for him to back to winning streak. Allegri just trying his best to get Juventus back to winning ways but it seems his best is not good enough. He needs more players in the team because the ones available are either injured or not fit for games. The old lady's having a critical time presently and fans are enduring with them, but hopefully they can still bounced back to their best fo only if the keyplayers bounce back to fitness and physique pretty normal and working good.

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.

[hd49728]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.

It sounds like a solid plan because if they sack him before the World Cup, they will have about 1 month as preparation for a new coach. 1 month is not to long but good enough especially in a middle of season.

According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.

Conte is a good coach but it does not mean he will succeed if he returns to Juventus. Allegri is a similar example with more challenge in a second time he works with Juventus.

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.

They indeed are considering a lot of scenarios. What will happen if they sack Allegri? From club performance to cost of compensation and more. What will happen if they give him more time, more chance and assess his work in next one or two months? I believe they are keen on the second scenario and of course they don't exclude a scenario to sack Allegri but after giving him more time but nothing will be improved.

[babo]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.



According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.

the situation is critical for him yes, I don't think Juventus will recover by that date
but I honestly don't think another coach can work miracles

it's a stupid choice to take him away, it's not entirely his fault

[maju69]

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.

Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.

[Awaklara]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.



According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.

the situation is critical for him yes, I don't think Juventus will recover by that date
but I honestly don't think another coach can work miracles

it's a stupid choice to take him away, it's not entirely his fault

Conte seems to have a problem with Juventus. I don't think Conte will be Juve's choice as rumored.
although acceptable to the club and the player. but not for the president of Juve. when Conte coached Milan, problems with the Juve president occurred.

Conte put Juve in good form when he took the lead. Naturally, if his name is mentioned will return to Juve when Juve's situation is getting worse.
if there is a possibility of this happening, I think Conte will ask the club for some conditions. and that's going to be quite difficult.

[babo]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.



According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.

the situation is critical for him yes, I don't think Juventus will recover by that date
but I honestly don't think another coach can work miracles

it's a stupid choice to take him away, it's not entirely his fault

Conte seems to have a problem with Juventus. I don't think Conte will be Juve's choice as rumored.
although acceptable to the club and the player. but not for the president of Juve. when Conte coached Milan, problems with the Juve president occurred.

Conte put Juve in good form when he took the lead. Naturally, if his name is mentioned will return to Juve when Juve's situation is getting worse.
if there is a possibility of this happening, I think Conte will ask the club for some conditions. and that's going to be quite difficult.

Conte is a whiner coach
just look at how he whimpered when he coached Inter
unfortunately he does not enjoy my respect, he is lucky, but luck cannot always make up for his skill

everyone attacks Allegri today, but look what team he has
they have not made a decent purchase campaign (indeed they have sold) Allegri cannot work miracles

[Pmalek]

The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.

I think Juventus is already in an awful position and the situation can already be called critical. They are out of the Champions League knockout stages, and the way they are playing, it wouldn't be too big of a surprise if they finished bottom in their CL group and don't even reach the Europa League. This team doesn't have any chemistry, and a top 4 finish at the end of the season is a big question mark.

But I agree with the Viking Ultras that this is not entirely Allegri's fault. Things are rotten at the top. It began with Marotta not getting a deserved contract extension because he was against buying Cristiano for €100 million. Then the head of the scouting department left for Manchester United. After that, we lost Paratici and the management wasn't improved by bringing in better people. No. Agnelli brought in mediocre and inexperienced personnel obviously not fit for the task.

Juventus always meant a core of hard-working Italian players who loved to be there. And a core for the Italian national team. That's gone now. Agnelli turned a sports club into a business with paid mercenaries. We see the results of that work now.   

[S A KHAIR]

What about Torino - Juventus? I believe it will be an epic game since both teams are quite in the same level and the failure mode is activated there..

This match is very important for Juventus. Because in the last 5 matches they have managed to win only one match. If they can't get back on track yet, they won't be able to fight for Champions League qualification. Torino is not in good form. They have lost three and drawn one of their last four matches. If Juventus can't win against such a team then we won't see Juventus in the top 10 of the points table.

Actually I want to confidently say that Juventus will be able to win but looking at their current state it seems to say they won this match is at its own risk,
Juventus are still struggling and now many people are starting to doubt and question why Allegri is still being kept even though the pressure for Allegri is obviously huge because many fans are not satisfied with Allegri's leadership.

I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.

[Plaguedeath]

I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.

Juventus will fight against Torino on this day, next week they will fight against Empoli, two weeks later they will fight against Lecce, and the fourth they will against Inter Milan before the conclusion will be made about Allegri. I think the first 3 match Juventus either can win or at least draw, Inter Milan would be tough for them. Inter Milan even though doesn't in higher position, but their performance are good, they just not stable.

[Jody.Drummer]

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.

Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.

Currently Allegri still has a contract until 2025 and with his salary of 13 million per season it is clear that this is still a problem for Juventus if they do sack him now, especially at this time they still have a worrying financial condition.
With things like this, Juventus officials can only hope that Allegri will resign from his position voluntarily and let his salary for 4 years of his contract be removed, even though this sounds quite difficult to realize.

But if their condition continues like this, it will also be very unfortunate, especially since they currently have a squad that is actually quite capable of competing.

[kamvreto]

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.

Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.

Currently Allegri still has a contract until 2025 and with his salary of 13 million per season it is clear that this is still a problem for Juventus if they do sack him now, especially at this time they still have a worrying financial condition.
With things like this, Juventus officials can only hope that Allegri will resign from his position voluntarily and let his salary for 4 years of his contract be removed, even though this sounds quite difficult to realize.

But if their condition continues like this, it will also be very unfortunate, especially since they currently have a squad that is actually quite capable of competing.

Allegri will never resign and he is even more excited even though the Juventus team is not doing well and needs a more precise strategy to win. Allegri is excited that Juventus can still present the best match and improve things.
conditions like this are indeed a difficult condition for juventus, successive defeats will certainly make juventus eliminated and have no more chance. Juventus' next match will be against Torino, of course juventus must win, otherwise Juventus will miss many points and go down the standings.

[boltz]

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.

Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.

Currently Allegri still has a contract until 2025 and with his salary of 13 million per season it is clear that this is still a problem for Juventus if they do sack him now, especially at this time they still have a worrying financial condition.
With things like this, Juventus officials can only hope that Allegri will resign from his position voluntarily and let his salary for 4 years of his contract be removed, even though this sounds quite difficult to realize.

But if their condition continues like this, it will also be very unfortunate, especially since they currently have a squad that is actually quite capable of competing.

Allegri will never resign and he is even more excited even though the Juventus team is not doing well and needs a more precise strategy to win. Allegri is excited that Juventus can still present the best match and improve things.
conditions like this are indeed a difficult condition for juventus, successive defeats will certainly make juventus eliminated and have no more chance. Juventus' next match will be against Torino, of course juventus must win, otherwise Juventus will miss many points and go down the standings.

In my opinion , Allegri should leave as soon as possible from Juve and start a new chapter in his coach life , away from Serie A , like Conte did. Rumors that Conte will be back are non-sense because he is super happy at Spurs and players already formed a shield upon him so he won't leave anytime soon from there + Spurs kept their important players for him by not selling neither Kane or Son. The best solution for Juve , would be to somehow bring Tuchel as a coach , but it's a difficult task as he doesn't want to coach right now.