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October 14, 2022, 02:28:06 AM
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The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.
Date for him to get sack, not confident about that because there's still chances for him to back to winning streak. Allegri just trying his best to get Juventus back to winning ways but it seems his best is not good enough. He needs more players in the team because the ones available are either injured or not fit for games. The old lady's having a critical time presently and fans are enduring with them, but hopefully they can still bounced back to their best fo only if the keyplayers bounce back to fitness and physique pretty normal and working good.

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.

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October 14, 2022, 03:32:02 AM
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The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.
It sounds like a solid plan because if they sack him before the World Cup, they will have about 1 month as preparation for a new coach. 1 month is not to long but good enough especially in a middle of season.

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According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.
Conte is a good coach but it does not mean he will succeed if he returns to Juventus. Allegri is a similar example with more challenge in a second time he works with Juventus.

Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.
They indeed are considering a lot of scenarios. What will happen if they sack Allegri? From club performance to cost of compensation and more. What will happen if they give him more time, more chance and assess his work in next one or two months? I believe they are keen on the second scenario and of course they don't exclude a scenario to sack Allegri but after giving him more time but nothing will be improved.

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October 14, 2022, 06:17:53 AM
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The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.



According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.

the situation is critical for him yes, I don't think Juventus will recover by that date
but I honestly don't think another coach can work miracles

it's a stupid choice to take him away, it's not entirely his fault

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October 14, 2022, 06:37:31 AM
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Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.
Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.

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October 14, 2022, 06:54:50 AM
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The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.



According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.

the situation is critical for him yes, I don't think Juventus will recover by that date
but I honestly don't think another coach can work miracles

it's a stupid choice to take him away, it's not entirely his fault

Conte seems to have a problem with Juventus. I don't think Conte will be Juve's choice as rumored.
although acceptable to the club and the player. but not for the president of Juve. when Conte coached Milan, problems with the Juve president occurred.

Conte put Juve in good form when he took the lead. Naturally, if his name is mentioned will return to Juve when Juve's situation is getting worse.
if there is a possibility of this happening, I think Conte will ask the club for some conditions. and that's going to be quite difficult.

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October 14, 2022, 07:46:10 AM
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The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.



According to rumor the big plan is to have Conte back next summer.

the situation is critical for him yes, I don't think Juventus will recover by that date
but I honestly don't think another coach can work miracles

it's a stupid choice to take him away, it's not entirely his fault

Conte seems to have a problem with Juventus. I don't think Conte will be Juve's choice as rumored.
although acceptable to the club and the player. but not for the president of Juve. when Conte coached Milan, problems with the Juve president occurred.

Conte put Juve in good form when he took the lead. Naturally, if his name is mentioned will return to Juve when Juve's situation is getting worse.
if there is a possibility of this happening, I think Conte will ask the club for some conditions. and that's going to be quite difficult.


Conte is a whiner coach
just look at how he whimpered when he coached Inter
unfortunately he does not enjoy my respect, he is lucky, but luck cannot always make up for his skill

everyone attacks Allegri today, but look what team he has
they have not made a decent purchase campaign (indeed they have sold) Allegri cannot work miracles

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October 14, 2022, 08:06:53 AM
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The deadline for Allegri seems to be 13th November, it will be the last game before the world cup.

If the situation will be critical he will be sacked.
I think Juventus is already in an awful position and the situation can already be called critical. They are out of the Champions League knockout stages, and the way they are playing, it wouldn't be too big of a surprise if they finished bottom in their CL group and don't even reach the Europa League. This team doesn't have any chemistry, and a top 4 finish at the end of the season is a big question mark.

But I agree with the Viking Ultras that this is not entirely Allegri's fault. Things are rotten at the top. It began with Marotta not getting a deserved contract extension because he was against buying Cristiano for €100 million. Then the head of the scouting department left for Manchester United. After that, we lost Paratici and the management wasn't improved by bringing in better people. No. Agnelli brought in mediocre and inexperienced personnel obviously not fit for the task.

Juventus always meant a core of hard-working Italian players who loved to be there. And a core for the Italian national team. That's gone now. Agnelli turned a sports club into a business with paid mercenaries. We see the results of that work now.   

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October 14, 2022, 08:13:08 AM
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What about Torino - Juventus? I believe it will be an epic game since both teams are quite in the same level and the failure mode is activated there..
This match is very important for Juventus. Because in the last 5 matches they have managed to win only one match. If they can't get back on track yet, they won't be able to fight for Champions League qualification. Torino is not in good form. They have lost three and drawn one of their last four matches. If Juventus can't win against such a team then we won't see Juventus in the top 10 of the points table.
Actually I want to confidently say that Juventus will be able to win but looking at their current state it seems to say they won this match is at its own risk,
Juventus are still struggling and now many people are starting to doubt and question why Allegri is still being kept even though the pressure for Allegri is obviously huge because many fans are not satisfied with Allegri's leadership.

I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.

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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus will fight against Torino on this day, next week they will fight against Empoli, two weeks later they will fight against Lecce, and the fourth they will against Inter Milan before the conclusion will be made about Allegri. I think the first 3 match Juventus either can win or at least draw, Inter Milan would be tough for them. Inter Milan even though doesn't in higher position, but their performance are good, they just not stable.

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October 14, 2022, 08:32:33 AM
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Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.
Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.
Currently Allegri still has a contract until 2025 and with his salary of 13 million per season it is clear that this is still a problem for Juventus if they do sack him now, especially at this time they still have a worrying financial condition.
With things like this, Juventus officials can only hope that Allegri will resign from his position voluntarily and let his salary for 4 years of his contract be removed, even though this sounds quite difficult to realize.

But if their condition continues like this, it will also be very unfortunate, especially since they currently have a squad that is actually quite capable of competing.

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Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.
Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.
Currently Allegri still has a contract until 2025 and with his salary of 13 million per season it is clear that this is still a problem for Juventus if they do sack him now, especially at this time they still have a worrying financial condition.
With things like this, Juventus officials can only hope that Allegri will resign from his position voluntarily and let his salary for 4 years of his contract be removed, even though this sounds quite difficult to realize.

But if their condition continues like this, it will also be very unfortunate, especially since they currently have a squad that is actually quite capable of competing.

Allegri will never resign and he is even more excited even though the Juventus team is not doing well and needs a more precise strategy to win. Allegri is excited that Juventus can still present the best match and improve things.
conditions like this are indeed a difficult condition for juventus, successive defeats will certainly make juventus eliminated and have no more chance. Juventus' next match will be against Torino, of course juventus must win, otherwise Juventus will miss many points and go down the standings.
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Giving him more time means if team was betting the reputation from the team. I meant if he can bring juventus to the win streak and that must not be a problem otherwise if juventus will face more lose streak and then he will put juventus into the worst situation.
It seems like management didn't even consider about this. that's why they are still believing in allegri. This may become a boomerang for allegri too. I think that this gonna be a problem for allegri if juventus will continue to show bad performance.
Honestly I have a big question why Juventus haven't decided how they are with Allegri, because if the situation gets worse it will be difficult for the new coach to fix it (if they decide to sack Allegri). I initially believed that Allegri still deserved to be given a chance, but I saw him unable to show improvement. Trust in Allegri is now shattered by what he did with Juventus.
Currently Allegri still has a contract until 2025 and with his salary of 13 million per season it is clear that this is still a problem for Juventus if they do sack him now, especially at this time they still have a worrying financial condition.
With things like this, Juventus officials can only hope that Allegri will resign from his position voluntarily and let his salary for 4 years of his contract be removed, even though this sounds quite difficult to realize.

But if their condition continues like this, it will also be very unfortunate, especially since they currently have a squad that is actually quite capable of competing.

Allegri will never resign and he is even more excited even though the Juventus team is not doing well and needs a more precise strategy to win. Allegri is excited that Juventus can still present the best match and improve things.
conditions like this are indeed a difficult condition for juventus, successive defeats will certainly make juventus eliminated and have no more chance. Juventus' next match will be against Torino, of course juventus must win, otherwise Juventus will miss many points and go down the standings.

In my opinion , Allegri should leave as soon as possible from Juve and start a new chapter in his coach life , away from Serie A , like Conte did. Rumors that Conte will be back are non-sense because he is super happy at Spurs and players already formed a shield upon him so he won't leave anytime soon from there + Spurs kept their important players for him by not selling neither Kane or Son. The best solution for Juve , would be to somehow bring Tuchel as a coach , but it's a difficult task as he doesn't want to coach right now.

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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus management is still cold to Allegri by giving him a chance despite the fact that he deserves to be fired from the Juventus coach. The bad results that Juventus continue to achieve due to Allegri not being able to mix up the Juventus squad properly, in the hands of Allegri Juventus are like without direction.

Juventus, who just got two painful blows in the away match, had to play the derby against Torino, and they will again play in the opponent's cage. Last week Juventus were defeated by AC Milan and after that in the middle of last week Juventus were again defeated by Maccabi Haifa in the UCL Group elimination, in these two matches Juventus lost with an identical score of 0-2. If in the away match this time Juventus again lost points, Allegri had to say goodbye to Juventus.

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October 14, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus management is still cold to Allegri by giving him a chance despite the fact that he deserves to be fired from the Juventus coach. The bad results that Juventus continue to achieve due to Allegri not being able to mix up the Juventus squad properly, in the hands of Allegri Juventus are like without direction.

Juventus, who just got two painful blows in the away match, had to play the derby against Torino, and they will again play in the opponent's cage. Last week Juventus were defeated by AC Milan and after that in the middle of last week Juventus were again defeated by Maccabi Haifa in the UCL Group elimination, in these two matches Juventus lost with an identical score of 0-2. If in the away match this time Juventus again lost points, Allegri had to say goodbye to Juventus.

Losing by Milan I can still accept, but losing by Maccabi Haifa was an unacceptable loss and should not have happened. Juventus are very patient and kind because there is still no decision or even rumors to sack Allegri, I don't know what they expect from Allegri because they still provide an opportunity to coach Juventus. The derby match can be a difficult match for Juventus with their condition like this, because Torino when against Juventus can be very strong even though they are ranked below Juventus. Therefore, I personally still don't believe Juventus will win in the derby match against Torino, and will try to choose Torino to win at this moment.

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Salvatore Bocchetti is the new coach of italian serie a club hellas verona, succeeding Gabriele Cioffi who was sacked on tuesday. after ending his playing career in 2021, S. Bocchetti worked as an assistant coach at verona last season. hellas announced the sacking of G. Cioffi on tuesday after a poor start to the season with just 1 win from 9 games.

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October 14, 2022, 11:17:53 AM
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I would say this match is more important for Allegri than Juventus. Because if Juventus is not able to win against a relatively weak team, the pressure on Allegri will increase. And Juventus management may now decide to fire him. Because, Juventus management has given Allegri enough opportunities. But Allegri has repeatedly failed. But it seems that Juventus will be able to win this time.
Juventus management is still cold to Allegri by giving him a chance despite the fact that he deserves to be fired from the Juventus coach. The bad results that Juventus continue to achieve due to Allegri not being able to mix up the Juventus squad properly, in the hands of Allegri Juventus are like without direction.

Juventus, who just got two painful blows in the away match, had to play the derby against Torino, and they will again play in the opponent's cage. Last week Juventus were defeated by AC Milan and after that in the middle of last week Juventus were again defeated by Maccabi Haifa in the UCL Group elimination, in these two matches Juventus lost with an identical score of 0-2. If in the away match this time Juventus again lost points, Allegri had to say goodbye to Juventus.

Losing by Milan I can still accept, but losing by Maccabi Haifa was an unacceptable loss and should not have happened. Juventus are very patient and kind because there is still no decision or even rumors to sack Allegri, I don't know what they expect from Allegri because they still provide an opportunity to coach Juventus. The derby match can be a difficult match for Juventus with their condition like this, because Torino when against Juventus can be very strong even though they are ranked below Juventus. Therefore, I personally still don't believe Juventus will win in the derby match against Torino, and will try to choose Torino to win at this moment.

@hahay my theory is that Juventus are giving him time till the World Cup begins, because even if they fire him now the new coach won’t have much time to galvanise this Juventus side. Furthermore I feel that his day’s are numbered and even if Juventus wins this game, he’ll yet be sacked by the start of the January window because they clearly need a new coach who can push them to reclaim their lost glory day’s.
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October 14, 2022, 11:49:42 AM
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Juventus had to be knocked out of the top flight and is now only ranked 8th in the standings. Very disappointing for this big team in Serie A. Allegri was in the spotlight of a series of bad results achieved by Juventus, many parties pressed for Juventus to immediately take a decision to fire Allegri. 2 defeats and 2 draws in the last 5 matches is a bad record for Juventus.

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October 14, 2022, 11:58:40 AM
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Juventus had to be knocked out of the top flight and is now only ranked 8th in the standings. Very disappointing for this big team in Serie A. Allegri was in the spotlight of a series of bad results achieved by Juventus, many parties pressed for Juventus to immediately take a decision to fire Allegri. 2 defeats and 2 draws in the last 5 matches is a bad record for Juventus.

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we have highly competitive and aggressive small teams
I would say they are doing badly, but it's not just their fault: D

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October 14, 2022, 01:39:14 PM
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I don't know what the Juventus owner saw in Allegri so he was not willing to change the Juventus coach until now, many great coaches can be obtained for free such as tuchel or zidane temporarily managing Juventus. Napoli's performance is so much better (in series A or in UCL) when compared to Juve and this is really beyond expectation.
Juventus has been making the worst decision by still allowing allegri to manage the club. I don't know what position that will be achieved by the club at the end of season. There's no reason for juventus to use allegri anymore. It seems like juventus will be sacked allegri if juventus will face another just like 5 -10 loses in a row. What a very bad decision by the club. This club just like a mediocre club.
That's right, Juventus in the Ionian season looked like an ordinary club even though the money they spent in the transfer market was not small and even Juventus are one of the teams that spend a lot of money to buy players and pay their players. In fact, I really salute Napoli and Atalanta, who don't spend a lot of money but have extraordinary quality of play, I'm sure this season belongs to Napoli, they will be the rulers of Serie A and maybe Napoli will be a big threat to the big teams who playing at UCL.

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October 14, 2022, 01:56:01 PM
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Allegri will never resign and he is even more excited even though the Juventus team is not doing well and needs a more precise strategy to win. Allegri is excited that Juventus can still present the best match and improve things.
conditions like this are indeed a difficult condition for juventus, successive defeats will certainly make juventus eliminated and have no more chance. Juventus' next match will be against Torino, of course juventus must win, otherwise Juventus will miss many points and go down the standings.

In my opinion , Allegri should leave as soon as possible from Juve and start a new chapter in his coach life , away from Serie A , like Conte did. Rumors that Conte will be back are non-sense because he is super happy at Spurs and players already formed a shield upon him so he won't leave anytime soon from there + Spurs kept their important players for him by not selling neither Kane or Son. The best solution for Juve , would be to somehow bring Tuchel as a coach , but it's a difficult task as he doesn't want to coach right now.
Juventus is difficult to fire Allegri, but Allegri also will not simply resign from his coaching chair. We do not blame who has to make the decision because it is a contract that has been agreed by both parties. I doubt Allegri will step down with nothing, because that would be a loss for him. On the other hand, if Juventus keep him I'm afraid they will sink further down the table. It is not easy to make a decision, unless both parties can negotiate and find the best way.

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