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August 03, 2023, 01:44:12 PM
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I don't think if Juventus even think about Lukaku, because there was some news about Dušan Vlahović leaving this team soon to other teams and we know Dušan Vlahović is an important player for Juventus but since they don't have a good financial situation even Allegri did say a no when they asked him about Vlahović, he said rejecting some offers is impossible because of their current financial situation which means we are going to see Vlahović leaving Juventus soon and play in another team in the next season.

Dusan Vlahovic is indeed close to leaving Juventus. And his current goal is Chelsea. And the negotiation process has actually almost entered the final round. Juventus asked Chelsea to hand over Lukaku and also pay additional money of around 40 million euros to get Dusan Vlahovic's services. But at the moment there is no official decision. But he said Lukaku himself had agreed to move to Juventus. He will be contracted for 3 years and given additional options.
Chelsea may still have doubts about the money they have to spend. And everything will depend on Pochettino because it seems that the Chelsea club currently really entrusts almost everything to Pochettino.

Now Juventus are playing against Real Madrid and the surprise happened in the first minute. Because Juventus managed to lead by 1 goal at this time thanks to M.Kean who scored in the first minute of the match.

update: the score changed to 2-0 over the superiority of Juventus. (T.Weah added 1 goal in the 20th minute.)

Juventus was able humiliating madrid. Madrid is too dependent on vini. I don't even know how bad madrid without vini if he will be injured. Chelsea is still in talk with juventus over swap deal. It seems like that chelsea wants juventus to decrease its offer.
Chelsea is interesting with this negotiation but the problem if chelsea wants to add around 30 millions for vlahovic. Juventus really needs lukaku at this moment. There's no way for juventus to get him rather than doing swap transfer with chelsea.

It's a win win situation for both of clubs. I hope that juventus can reconsider chelsea's offer. Getting lukaku + 30 million is quite good for juventus rather than the club will not able to sell vlahovic caused by he has expensive price compared with another striker.

I think there will be a positive update that will come in the next days. I hope that chelsea will be able to get vlahovic soon with cheap price. Lukaku is not including in pochettino's plan.
Juventus is showing some improvement. Last season the team could not achieve the expected success. However, the team has started doing well in the beginning of this season Hopefully Juventus will have a good season.

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August 03, 2023, 01:46:15 PM
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- official or almost an agreement between Chelsea and Juventus for Lukaku and an exchange of player plus money”

Finally I think Chelsea will be able to fix the problem. The problem that they had regarding Lukaku. He was a close off headache for them for a long time. Now finally, it seems like the problem is going to be fixed.

Morata who will go to Rome

I was actually never a big fan of maraca. It appears to me that he’s like someone who possessed immense potential but was never able to unlock his full potential throughout his entire career. Hence, the news regarding him fails to captivate my attention.



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August 03, 2023, 02:11:16 PM
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Juventus is showing some improvement. Last season the team could not achieve the expected success. However, the team has started doing well in the beginning of this season Hopefully Juventus will have a good season.
To some extent, the team made an effort, but I believe they failed to overcome their obstacles last season, with the severe punishment they received from the court for breaking the law, points deducted from the league table, diminishing their ambition to contend for the scudetto this season. Despite the club's challenging circumstances, Juventus manager Massimiliano Allegri is doing everything he can to make things more efficiently. The Old lady's facing some significant obstacles this season, which is not a nice path to go, but in past friendly games, they stood out to win elite clubs.

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August 03, 2023, 02:13:19 PM
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Victor Osimhen had the best season of his professional career last season and thanks to the coach and staff of Napoli for bringing our the best from the Nigeria international.
There's been several rumours about his future and the next football home of Osimhen which hasn't been confirmed by the player or the manager. That being said, I don't think Victor Osimhen wouldn't leave Napoli this summer for another Italian club
While the risk of Osimhen heading to Milan is still unknown it appears doubtful that Ac Milan will make a long term acquisition given their emphasis on accessible players. The player existing Napoli contract and the Saudi Arabian offers add to the difficulty of the situation. It is less likely that Napoli will release Osimhen as a free agent to Milan because of the president view of him as a valued asset and the leading goal scorer in Serie A. Napoli might instead decide to sell him to another team in order to make money. If Osimhen does join Milan it will surely improve their attacking capability but as of now it seems dubious that the rumour will come to pass.
I think Napoli not want their best striker move to a Serie A club, especially Milan because Milan is Napoli toughest rival so far. Also Osimhen contract with Napoli will ends in 2025 and maybe if his contract has ended, he will play in the Premier League because Osimhen also really want playing at there. Also maybe Manchester United still want his services, if they can bring Osimhen without a transfer fee that's good for they anyway. But for this season it is likely that Osimhen will still play with Napoli, meanwhile the offer made by Saudi rumored already rejected by Osimhen.

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August 03, 2023, 02:34:59 PM
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Juventus is showing some improvement. Last season the team could not achieve the expected success. However, the team has started doing well in the beginning of this season Hopefully Juventus will have a good season.
To some extent, the team made an effort, but I believe they failed to overcome their obstacles last season, with the severe punishment they received from the court for breaking the law, points deducted from the league table, diminishing their ambition to contend for the scudetto this season. Despite the club's challenging circumstances, Juventus manager Massimiliano Allegri is doing everything he can to make things more efficiently. The Old lady's facing some significant obstacles this season, which is not a nice path to go, but in past friendly games, they stood out to win elite clubs.
Their mentality must have been down when they were penalized last season, and they could have recovered the points they lost, but at the end of the season they had to actually get penalized for deducting points. When viewed from the game, actually they can't be said to be playing badly, it's just that maybe a little not optimal, especially at the beginning they lost a lot of players which in the end made them have to work extra. Slowly but surely they continue to improve.
The upcoming season is also not without problems, because they get a score not allowed to be in European competition. However, it could be an advantage because their schedule is not busier than usual. They must show that they can still rise despite repeated sanctions.

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August 03, 2023, 02:43:29 PM
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Juventus is showing some improvement. Last season the team could not achieve the expected success. However, the team has started doing well in the beginning of this season Hopefully Juventus will have a good season.
To some extent, the team made an effort, but I believe they failed to overcome their obstacles last season, with the severe punishment they received from the court for breaking the law, points deducted from the league table, diminishing their ambition to contend for the scudetto this season. Despite the club's challenging circumstances, Juventus manager Massimiliano Allegri is doing everything he can to make things more efficiently. The Old lady's facing some significant obstacles this season, which is not a nice path to go, but in past friendly games, they stood out to win elite clubs.
Their mentality must have been down when they were penalized last season, and they could have recovered the points they lost, but at the end of the season they had to actually get penalized for deducting points. When viewed from the game, actually they can't be said to be playing badly, it's just that maybe a little not optimal, especially at the beginning they lost a lot of players which in the end made them have to work extra. Slowly but surely they continue to improve.
The upcoming season is also not without problems, because they get a score not allowed to be in European competition. However, it could be an advantage because their schedule is not busier than usual. They must show that they can still rise despite repeated sanctions.
maybe indeed the mentality of the players will be disturbed due to the problems of last season but I see the players are still trying very hard to get tickets to the conference league even though there are a few matches left and in the end they succeeded. but what was very surprising after getting the ticket and the match approaching the schedule determined by Juventus got another violation and this really hit the mentality of the players because they had tried to fight hard but the results were in vain. and I have a little faith that even though they are not Juventus fans in this Serie A competition, Juventus players will try again to look good to get the best place in Serie A to get tickets to the European league or the next season Champions League.

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August 03, 2023, 02:47:24 PM
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Juventus is showing some improvement. Last season the team could not achieve the expected success. However, the team has started doing well in the beginning of this season Hopefully Juventus will have a good season.
To some extent, the team made an effort, but I believe they failed to overcome their obstacles last season, with the severe punishment they received from the court for breaking the law, points deducted from the league table, diminishing their ambition to contend for the scudetto this season. Despite the club's challenging circumstances, Juventus manager Massimiliano Allegri is doing everything he can to make things more efficiently. The Old lady's facing some significant obstacles this season, which is not a nice path to go, but in past friendly games, they stood out to win elite clubs.
Their mentality must have been down when they were penalized last season, and they could have recovered the points they lost, but at the end of the season they had to actually get penalized for deducting points. When viewed from the game, actually they can't be said to be playing badly, it's just that maybe a little not optimal, especially at the beginning they lost a lot of players which in the end made them have to work extra. Slowly but surely they continue to improve.
The upcoming season is also not without problems, because they get a score not allowed to be in European competition. However, it could be an advantage because their schedule is not busier than usual. They must show that they can still rise despite repeated sanctions.
Because of the sanctions that befell them next season, Juventus should be able to focus on Serie A next season, but with the changes made by this team throughout the transfer market this summer, many people are pessimistic that they will be able to compete strictly to win the Scudetto next season, but Juventus are starting to prove themselves. slowly in the pre-season matches they are living, now they are playing very well even though it does not guarantee that they will play well in official competitions later but at least now many changes have occurred in this team.
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August 03, 2023, 02:59:39 PM
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I can see the great improvement in Juventus matches. They have performed brilliantly in the last few matches and have been able to score goals in the early stages. I hope the Juventus team will correct their mistakes and pass this season in a great way.
Juventus are starting to stick in after failing to finish in the best position last season, the positive results obtained in pre-season matches give an indication that Juventus strength has improved, they are ready to compete for the Scudetto this season. Juventus have returned to their best path based on the positive results obtained when they beat Real Madrid, although this result does not mean anything for the two teams, at least the cohesiveness that Juventus players need on the pitch is progress achieved after forming a squad in the transfer market.

Correcting last season mistakes is the main task of the coach, Massimiliano Allegri has made Juventus a team ready to compete at the top of the standings.

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August 03, 2023, 03:45:14 PM
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Their mentality must have been down when they were penalized last season, and they could have recovered the points they lost, but at the end of the season they had to actually get penalized for deducting points. When viewed from the game, actually they can't be said to be playing badly, it's just that maybe a little not optimal, especially at the beginning they lost a lot of players which in the end made them have to work extra. Slowly but surely they continue to improve.
The upcoming season is also not without problems, because they get a score not allowed to be in European competition. However, it could be an advantage because their schedule is not busier than usual. They must show that they can still rise despite repeated sanctions.
maybe indeed the mentality of the players will be disturbed due to the problems of last season but I see the players are still trying very hard to get tickets to the conference league even though there are a few matches left and in the end they succeeded. but what was very surprising after getting the ticket and the match approaching the schedule determined by Juventus got another violation and this really hit the mentality of the players because they had tried to fight hard but the results were in vain. and I have a little faith that even though they are not Juventus fans in this Serie A competition, Juventus players will try again to look good to get the best place in Serie A to get tickets to the European league or the next season Champions League.
Yes, after all, they will definitely feel sad, because their hard work for a full season can only leave the sanctions they get. I would put myself in their shoes, of course, even though many people say that they have to be professional and show their best, of course they can't easily do it. I'm also sure they will remain professional, but there are still many or few influences. And that's normal too because after all disappointment is part of emotions.




Because of the sanctions that befell them next season, Juventus should be able to focus on Serie A next season, but with the changes made by this team throughout the transfer market this summer, many people are pessimistic that they will be able to compete strictly to win the Scudetto next season, but Juventus are starting to prove themselves. slowly in the pre-season matches they are living, now they are playing very well even though it does not guarantee that they will play well in official competitions later but at least now many changes have occurred in this team.
Instead, with many doubting them, they must show that the doubts pinned on them by some people are wrong. That should be more motivation for them, because if they do pessimistic things, they are like justifying other people's judgment on them. and as a club, especially they are a big club, they should not do that. The ups and downs of the game are normal, but the point here is that they must be able to display a slick game.

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August 03, 2023, 03:52:10 PM
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Juventus is showing some improvement. Last season the team could not achieve the expected success. However, the team has started doing well in the beginning of this season Hopefully Juventus will have a good season.

No, Juventus haven't had any actual matches, they've only played friendly match and I think that's not an effective reference because both Juventus and their opponents must beused a game that's not as usual because this is a test how far they have succeeded in making changes throughout season break. I need to see how they start Serie A before comment on Juventus' performance

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August 03, 2023, 03:59:48 PM
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Victor Osimhen had the best season of his professional career last season and thanks to the coach and staff of Napoli for bringing our the best from the Nigeria international.
There's been several rumours about his future and the next football home of Osimhen which hasn't been confirmed by the player or the manager. That being said, I don't think Victor Osimhen wouldn't leave Napoli this summer for another Italian club
While the risk of Osimhen heading to Milan is still unknown it appears doubtful that Ac Milan will make a long term acquisition given their emphasis on accessible players. The player existing Napoli contract and the Saudi Arabian offers add to the difficulty of the situation. It is less likely that Napoli will release Osimhen as a free agent to Milan because of the president view of him as a valued asset and the leading goal scorer in Serie A. Napoli might instead decide to sell him to another team in order to make money. If Osimhen does join Milan it will surely improve their attacking capability but as of now it seems dubious that the rumour will come to pass.

Selling them to other teams to make money? Then, if Napoli sells him to Milan it doesn't make money? I wonder why if Napoli sells Osimhen to Milan, then Napoli doesn't get any money from the sale. Because after all, everywhere whose name is selling is of course making money, unless they release it because the contract has ended, then that cannot be said to be selling but releasing it. After all, apart from all that basically Osimhen is still young and of course, Osimhen will continue to pursue his career in Europe and will not play in the Saudi Professional League at a young age.

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August 03, 2023, 04:33:52 PM
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Juventus and chelsea are so desperate to sell their useless strikers. Vlahovic already made personal agreement with PSG but juventus wants him to be exchanged for lukaku from chelsea + additional funds.
I think that vlahovic can reject it and the transfer will not happen.

Dusan Vlahovic is not a useless striker. He is just going through hard times in Juventus. He doesn't have good relationships with the coach which has led to his underperformance. In Fiorentina, Dusan had a very good time scoring many goals for the Italian outfit. He is still young and can improve under a good coach that understands his style of play. Chelsea is expected to get him under a swap deal with Lukaku. Chelsea has Jackson and Nkunku, Dusan might be another viable addition.

Buffon was well performing and legendary player and in the last years of playing for Prama he could even have the better performance we know from Buffon, other than this some players sell the end of their careers for money and they will try to play in the team where they can earn more money but the good thing about players like Buffon is they choose to get tried in the team they like not for money, that's another reason to say Buffon was respectable player, he usually had good behavior with other players.
Now I think we should wait to see Buffon coaching younger players and helping them, and maybe will start his career in Prama.

It is rare to find such players like the legendary Gianluigi Buffon. I had expected him to add one or two years to his football career and make some money from the Saudi Arabia league. But he had decided to retire as a passionate player that is not driven by financial gains. He has achieved so much with Juventus, PSG, and the Italian national team as a player and leader. At 45 he thinks it is time to rest and spend more time with his family. I wish the legendary goalkeeper all the best in his future endeavors.

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August 03, 2023, 04:48:39 PM
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I think Napoli not want their best striker move to a Serie A club, especially Milan because Milan is Napoli toughest rival so far. Also Osimhen contract with Napoli will ends in 2025 and maybe if his contract has ended, he will play in the Premier League because Osimhen also really want playing at there. Also maybe Manchester United still want his services, if they can bring Osimhen without a transfer fee that's good for they anyway. But for this season it is likely that Osimhen will still play with Napoli, meanwhile the offer made by Saudi rumored already rejected by Osimhen.

Your argument is not entirely incorrect, but it is not entirely accurate either. The issue of rivalry sometimes acts as an obstacle for players to join a rival club immediately. However, there is one condition under which a club might agree to transfer a player to a rival: when the player consents to the move, despite the risk of being considered a traitor by fans. For instance, at present, Ketelaere is in the process of negotiating a loan (permanent option) to Atalanta, who also happen to be rivals for Milan.

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August 03, 2023, 05:14:32 PM
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Your argument is not entirely incorrect, but it is not entirely accurate either. The issue of rivalry sometimes acts as an obstacle for players to join a rival club immediately. However, there is one condition under which a club might agree to transfer a player to a rival: when the player consents to the move, despite the risk of being considered a traitor by fans. For instance, at present, Ketelaere is in the process of negotiating a loan (permanent option) to Atalanta, who also happen to be rivals for Milan.
Indeed, the risk of being disliked and labeled as a traitor by fans is very large, but not a few clubs have released their players to their rivals. Clubs in Serie A do this very often, in recent seasons Hakan Calhanoglu has been another example. There are many factors behind a player's move to a rival club, but the problem of the player's salary is the first.

But I think the traitor label given by fans to their former idols is only temporary, and that's very reasonable.

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August 03, 2023, 05:30:28 PM
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Victor Osimhen had the best season of his professional career last season and thanks to the coach and staff of Napoli for bringing our the best from the Nigeria international.
There's been several rumours about his future and the next football home of Osimhen which hasn't been confirmed by the player or the manager. That being said, I don't think Victor Osimhen wouldn't leave Napoli this summer for another Italian club
While the risk of Osimhen heading to Milan is still unknown it appears doubtful that Ac Milan will make a long term acquisition given their emphasis on accessible players. The player existing Napoli contract and the Saudi Arabian offers add to the difficulty of the situation. It is less likely that Napoli will release Osimhen as a free agent to Milan because of the president view of him as a valued asset and the leading goal scorer in Serie A. Napoli might instead decide to sell him to another team in order to make money. If Osimhen does join Milan it will surely improve their attacking capability but as of now it seems dubious that the rumour will come to pass.

Selling them to other teams to make money? Then, if Napoli sells him to Milan it doesn't make money? I wonder why if Napoli sells Osimhen to Milan, then Napoli doesn't get any money from the sale. Because after all, everywhere whose name is selling is of course making money, unless they release it because the contract has ended, then that cannot be said to be selling but releasing it. After all, apart from all that basically Osimhen is still young and of course, Osimhen will continue to pursue his career in Europe and will not play in the Saudi Professional League at a young age.
Of course at Napoli because after I saw almost all of these rumors were just news without truth even though Osimhen was often linked with other clubs but there was no confirmation whatsoever from Napoli or Osimhen and I think players who are still young they will indeed prefer a career in European clubs to improve career as well as getting major league titles such as the champion league to increase the quality of the selling price in his future like other star players who have a career from a young age until around 30 years after his name is known as a top player he will go to saudi arabia to get the rest of his career with a big salary .
Rumors that are spread make people think wrongly and make inconsequential judgments, exaggerating the problem or linking it with other clubs whose certainty is not certain.

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August 03, 2023, 06:35:55 PM
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Your argument is not entirely incorrect, but it is not entirely accurate either. The issue of rivalry sometimes acts as an obstacle for players to join a rival club immediately. However, there is one condition under which a club might agree to transfer a player to a rival: when the player consents to the move, despite the risk of being considered a traitor by fans. For instance, at present, Ketelaere is in the process of negotiating a loan (permanent option) to Atalanta, who also happen to be rivals for Milan.
Indeed, the risk of being disliked and labeled as a traitor by fans is very large, but not a few clubs have released their players to their rivals. Clubs in Serie A do this very often, in recent seasons Hakan Calhanoglu has been another example. There are many factors behind a player's move to a rival club, but the problem of the player's salary is the first.

But I think the traitor label given by fans to their former idols is only temporary, and that's very reasonable.
I think this kind of thing has happened many times and it will always generate hatred from the fans. Maybe in terms of loyalty it is considered inappropriate to imitate, but at least the player has contributed fully to the team he is defending. Sometimes players also see that the potential to win titles is much more open when joining a rival team and therefore this can be beneficial from a career perspective, but not infrequently it is sometimes not what is expected. The need to anticipate unwanted things in order to stay away from guilt after joining a rival team.

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August 03, 2023, 06:40:48 PM
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Maybe we don't know how good Vlahovic would play instead of Lukaku for Chelsea. But we already know one thing which is that Lukaku is playing terrible for Chelsea. It was like that from the beginning. Still Chelsea spent an insane amount of money to sign him back from Inter and it was a huge disappointment. It must be like one of their worst deals in their history. Now they want to get rid of him quickly. When I look at the news I only see Vlahovic being linked with Chelsea recently.

I think Chelsea should reach an agreement with Juventus quickly and try something new. Hopefully Vlahovic would improve his performance there.

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August 03, 2023, 06:49:50 PM
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Maybe we don't know how good Vlahovic would play instead of Lukaku for Chelsea. But we already know one thing which is that Lukaku is playing terrible for Chelsea. It was like that from the beginning. Still Chelsea spent an insane amount of money to sign him back from Inter and it was a huge disappointment. It must be like one of their worst deals in their history. Now they want to get rid of him quickly. When I look at the news I only see Vlahovic being linked with Chelsea recently.

I think Chelsea should reach an agreement with Juventus quickly and try something new. Hopefully Vlahovic would improve his performance there.
Well for Vlahovic, I think he can do better if he finds a good coach and environment to play rather than sanctions and depression in Serie A and Juventus unfortunately.
For Lukaku, he didn't find stability in Chelsea the first year he moved there, that doesn't mean he will remain unstable and unhelpful for the team the remaining of his contract, yet I think with all the hype and conflicts there, it would be better to move to another club.
Otherwise, Osimhen popped up again with a nice deal from Al Hilal with €140m to move to Saudi Arabia league. I think Napoli will consider this offer if the player agree.

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Juventus are keen on having Lukaku after seeing Vlahovic's performance last season. Chelsea shouldn't give up on this deal as it would be a reasonable deal for them. It is obvious they can't do anything with Lukaku. Bringing Vlahovic is a chance to keep their attacking line more productive.

I don't think if Juventus even think about Lukaku, because there was some news about Dušan Vlahović leaving this team soon to other teams and we know Dušan Vlahović is an important player for Juventus but since they don't have a good financial situation even Allegri did say a no when they asked him about Vlahović, he said rejecting some offers is impossible because of their current financial situation which means we are going to see Vlahović leaving Juventus soon and play in another team in the next season.



Even though vlahovic is one of Juventus' best players and Lukaku is a good player who can still play well for the club, I don't think the departure of vlahovic is a bad thing. Juventus is in a financial bind and must sell players in order to raise cash. I think their suggestion is sound. Chelsea also wants to offload Lukaku due to a dispute between the player and the club. If Juventus decides to sign Lukaku, they won't regret it, Lukaku's performance in the serie A used to be superior to that of the premier league, and I believe that is why he preferred to stay at Inter Milan. However, due to some problems, Inter Milan decided against rehiring him.

Due to his performance in the serie A league last season, where he was one of the best players on the team and also scored goals for the team, Lukaku's bad behaviour is the only thing keeping him from joining Inter Milan. However, after he turned down an offer from Saudi Arabia and Inter Milan learned that he was in contact with Juventus about joining the team if they offered him a good amount, they viewed him as a traitor and slowed down the process of signing him from Chelsea. Since no other teams are interested in signing him this season, I believe Lukaku's best chance is to join Juventus.

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Maybe we don't know how good Vlahovic would play instead of Lukaku for Chelsea. But we already know one thing which is that Lukaku is playing terrible for Chelsea. It was like that from the beginning. Still Chelsea spent an insane amount of money to sign him back from Inter and it was a huge disappointment. It must be like one of their worst deals in their history. Now they want to get rid of him quickly. When I look at the news I only see Vlahovic being linked with Chelsea recently.

I think Chelsea should reach an agreement with Juventus quickly and try something new. Hopefully Vlahovic would improve his performance there.
Well for Vlahovic, I think he can do better if he finds a good coach and environment to play rather than sanctions and depression in Serie A and Juventus unfortunately.
For Lukaku, he didn't find stability in Chelsea the first year he moved there, that doesn't mean he will remain unstable and unhelpful for the team the remaining of his contract, yet I think with all the hype and conflicts there, it would be better to move to another club.
Otherwise, Osimhen popped up again with a nice deal from Al Hilal with €140m to move to Saudi Arabia league. I think Napoli will consider this offer if the player agree.

in my point of view, the exchange vlahovic lukaku will not be done in the end! he is a very important investment for juventus vlahovic and i don't think they will make him leave so easily, considering his young age and the potential he can still improve in my opinion juventus will keep him for a few more years hoping he will become an established champion in serie A for then sell it at a higher price

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