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September 13, 2023, 07:18:19 PM
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Given that both Inter and Milan have been in outstanding form this year, the Derby di Milano promises to be an exciting contest. This long running rivalry frequently defies predictions, despite the fact that Inter seems to be performing significantly better and bookmakers favour them. The score could indeed be hotly contested because to the reckless style of play between these two titans, which frequently produces unforeseen results. This season both teams are in strong situations, with AC Milan showing promise in a number of competitions as a result of shrewd player acquisitions. In contrast Inter lack of new signings could provide problems, especially if important players like Lukaku experience problems. Anything might happen during this derby, which promises to be a thrilling spectacle.

Why are you still linking Lukaku with Inter? because in reality, Lukaku is already at AS Roma and it's clear that Lukaku won't be playing at Inter this season. But apart from that, that at this moment Inter and Milan both have the same points in the standings and great again, Milan and Inter are currently two teams that consistently win compared to other teams in Serie A. With a good record like this, then of course this derby match will be interesting and very entertaining, because Inter and Milan are in their best form the moment. Considering also that Inter have not conceded at all so far in every match they have played, then is it possible that the clean sheets achieved by Inter at this moment will be stopped by Milan. Surely, it will be very interesting to look forward to.
Inter Milan vs AC Milan is a classic derby that is most anticipated by Serie A fans, this derby is a little lame when AC Milan is not strengthened by two key players. Fikayo Tomori and Olivier Giroud are certain not to be able to appear, Milan hopes lie in their new recruits Loftus Cheek and Pulisic. Inter Milan, which has a strong defensive line, will be very difficult to penetrate without Giroud presence. Inter will be more dominant in terms of squad depth in the derby.

Meanwhile in the opening match of week 4 there is Juventus vs Lazio, of course this is also very interesting. Lazio has capital of confidence, after successfully beating Napoli at home. Even though Juve are superior, Lazio will take advantage of the moment when Juve is experiencing a crisis in its core players due to injuries. It is difficult to predict the course of this match, but a draw seems more reasonable.

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September 13, 2023, 07:36:34 PM
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However, even though Inter Milan dominates every derby match and is always successful in winning and Inter will always be the favorite club in every derby match, many people want a surprise like you said. If AC Milan can thwart Inter's dominance, it will make the match even more interesting. In the future, in this derby match, even though there are still many who have their own opinions, I will still bet on Inter because in terms of guaranteed profits, this club is bigger.
If Milan can beat Inter then it will be interesting, correct. This match is very difficult to predict, both team have potential to win and also it is possible that match will end in a draw result. For betting on this match, maybe I'll skip Sir. But if there is another better option, maybe I will consider it first. To be honest, I personally not too brave bet on any team in that match, considering at the moment both team also in a good performance.

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September 13, 2023, 07:45:54 PM
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I wonder who was actually involved in this case and whether his doctors and the club officials have been aware of him taking stuff (or was even recommended in doing it, but they failed at doing it rightly).

Pogba is still doping positive, but not yet a "doping user" thats why the sanctions is not given yet. i read some news article and it was mentioned if there are several factors that cause doping, including the cream used for the skin and another factors exclude drugs and injections. If he is not a user of "doping drugs and injections", then maybe he can escape these sanctions. We'll see how the case turns out. Juventus needs to make a decision as quickly as possible, if Pogba is a positive doping user.
Indeed, there are many factors that could make Pogba not pass a doping test. As stated by the former head of the Italian national team's medical team, Enrico Castellaci. That Pogba seems to be less careful about using medicines or creams or something like that. Enrico Castellaci said that a substance commonly found in many medicines is nandrolone. Even though Pogba is temporarily suspended. But the real results will probably come out in the second test later. Honestly, I am always surprised by every problem that arises at the Juventus club. This club is always plagued by many things that are detrimental to the club. I hope that in the second test Pogba can pass the doping test. Because if you don't pass the doping test. So it is certain that he will face more serious problems. And this will also be detrimental to the club.

Everyone is taking action against Pogba already, including Juventus Turin who also froze his salary now.

Honestly whenever there have been doping allegations in any sport, I can't recall a case when the B-sample was negative suddenly. I might have missed some popular cases, but usually when the A-sample is positive it was game over.

I only know that some players tried to explain that it must have been the toothpaste or some other weird coincidence, but did anyone who was popular ever get away with such a story?

In Pogba's case it seems to have been a friend of his who is also a doctor and he recommended him this substance that is said to be legal in the United States but not in sports in Italy. Well done by the friend, but if it's true then Pogba should have talked to Juventus doctors as well. I believe he messed it up and this was it for him in the Serie A.

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September 13, 2023, 08:03:55 PM
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For betting on this match, maybe I'll skip Sir. But if there is another better option, maybe I will consider it first. To be honest, I personally not too brave bet on any team in that match, considering at the moment both team also in a good performance.
If you are still unsure who will win then use the option for both teams to score with the current odds of 1.74. I think with almost the same odds there is still a possibility that they will score each other's goals.

Indeed, if you look at the odds (1X2) it is much different from AC Milan, here the bookies know that Inter Milan's potential for victory is greater, but unfortunately this game will remain balanced if you look at the team's performance.

Yes that is my preferred odds if I don't choose Inter Milan to bet then the second option is both teams to score, this is very possible.

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September 13, 2023, 08:34:15 PM
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However, even though Inter Milan dominates every derby match and is always successful in winning and Inter will always be the favorite club in every derby match, many people want a surprise like you said. If AC Milan can thwart Inter's dominance, it will make the match even more interesting. In the future, in this derby match, even though there are still many who have their own opinions, I will still bet on Inter because in terms of guaranteed profits, this club is bigger.
If Milan can beat Inter then it will be interesting, correct. This match is very difficult to predict, both team have potential to win and also it is possible that match will end in a draw result. For betting on this match, maybe I'll skip Sir. But if there is another better option, maybe I will consider it first. To be honest, I personally not too brave bet on any team in that match, considering at the moment both team also in a good performance.
The game between Inter and AC Milan will be very difficult to predict. To me, the closest prediction will be that the game will end in a draw.  Both teams have won their three Sera A games and also scored eight goals each. The only difference is that Inter Milan has not conceded any goal while AC Milan has conceived two goals. Based on both teams' present form we can assume that Inter Milan is the favorite. I also thought that this game which is similar to the El Classic in Spain is coming too early. The Italian football body would have moved this game maybe to December when people will be on Christmas break. 

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September 13, 2023, 08:51:07 PM
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Still not clear the Pogba situation.

The rumor is about a medical drug taken in the USA from an American doctor.

That drug is legal in NA but illegal in Europe.

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September 13, 2023, 08:53:52 PM
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If Milan can beat Inter then it will be interesting, correct. This match is very difficult to predict, both team have potential to win and also it is possible that match will end in a draw result. For betting on this match, maybe I'll skip Sir. But if there is another better option, maybe I will consider it first. To be honest, I personally not too brave bet on any team in that match, considering at the moment both team also in a good performance.
We shouldn't underestimate both sides, they have what it takes to defeat each other. Inter Milan are home and will host AC Milan this weekend. A tough game to predict the winning team, but I'm just hoping doe solid results from the best team. I'm supporting Inter Milan, giving our my credits to them because they've been really competitive this season and also favorites in the race to win the Scudetto. I'm not going to be surprised if Inter Milan comes out victorious in the Milan Derby match because they have the upper hand in previous games.

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September 13, 2023, 08:57:57 PM
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I only know that some players tried to explain that it must have been the toothpaste or some other weird coincidence, but did anyone who was popular ever get away with such a story?  

I am not sure anyone has ever gotten away with doping offense without a ban. irrespective of nationality or club status; even almighty rio ferdinand was banned in the 2000s too. Pogba claims it was a doctor prescribed medicine but i am not sure if the anti doping guys will accept any of the excuses. Looks like a retirement soon for Paul Pogba
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September 13, 2023, 09:08:57 PM
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Inter Milan @2.12
AC Milan @3.40

Last season was very bad for AC Milan who couldn't get even 1 point in the derby dellamadonnina match. This season, in the first 3 matches Milan showed improved performance. I hope in this match AC Milan will stop Inter's dominance in the derby match. It's not just about the standings, but also a honor for Milanisti who couldn't chant "Forza Milan" to celebrate the winning match.
Milan and Inter both started the new season with full throttle, both managed to win in the first three matches this season. Milan who have never tasted victory in their last three matches in the derby dellamadonnina, will try to break Inter's dominance over them, but this time Milan's steps are a little difficult because they are acting as guests.

Inter certainly wants to continue its dominance by taking advantage of home matches, apart from that, Inter also needs to maintain its secure position in first place. The team's pride is certainly at stake in this Derby, but Milan's hopes seem very small to bring home full points from the Giuseppe Meazza especially since Inter are in top form.

We are getting closer to the Della Madonnina and the rates for Inter Milan and Ac Milan can show us Inter Milan has a much higher chance in this game against AC Milan. In AC Milan their experienced palyer, Olivier Giroud is still injured however he is getting recovered and there is a chance for him to play in the game against Inter Milan, but we can't say this about Pierre Kalulu but his situation is worse than Giroud.
Also, Fikayo Tomori is suspected after Roma.
This can make the situation even harder for Ac Milan.
      

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If Milan can beat Inter then it will be interesting, correct. This match is very difficult to predict, both team have potential to win and also it is possible that match will end in a draw result. For betting on this match, maybe I'll skip Sir. But if there is another better option, maybe I will consider it first. To be honest, I personally not too brave bet on any team in that match, considering at the moment both team also in a good performance.
We shouldn't underestimate both sides, they have what it takes to defeat each other. Inter Milan are home and will host AC Milan this weekend. A tough game to predict the winning team, but I'm just hoping doe solid results from the best team. I'm supporting Inter Milan, giving our my credits to them because they've been really competitive this season and also favorites in the race to win the Scudetto. I'm not going to be surprised if Inter Milan comes out victorious in the Milan Derby match because they have the upper hand in previous games.

As you said, they both have what it takes to win that game, which I think makes it a very interesting game for sure. I don't think it would turn into a one sided match where one of them takes a lead of two goals or more. I would rather expect a close back and forth between them and both have some great defensive power. AC Milan has quite a high speed attack now and Inter Milan has been very effective with their chances in the last few months. I think almost all outcomes are equally like and it is not really a perfect home game for the home team either given that it is the derby between the two teams.

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September 13, 2023, 09:31:28 PM
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I am not 100% sure if Poga actually used doping the way we know because he was already injury. I believe that we are going to end up with more like "some medicine that helps him recover faster" type of thing probably which may not be allowed. After all, streoid were invented to help with injury as well back in the day, which of course turned into some doping after a while but its still helpful for regular people like you and me to get back into health.

I believe that Pogba didn't gained an advantage in his play or something like that with this, I think he just wanted to get better and heal, and used what he has to use to do that. I guess he still did something wrong though and I believe he might be sold after this.
Usually, after the first test has proven to be positive, and it's quite impossible for the second test to be negative. Serie a is still testing pogba's second sample and there's no further news regarding the development from this.
We shall be more patience waiting for the result from his further test. Pogba has been saying that if he has been consuming food supplement, but it seems like this was not true.
Pogba must be honest but it seems like that he will be banned for months while his case will still run. Serie a needs to take the right decision for him. He was consuming banned substances, which were affecting his career, especially after a long-term injury.
It must be the biggest mistake being made by him this time. I don't even know how bright his future after this case. It's likely he will be banned for years.

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September 13, 2023, 09:46:11 PM
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I also don't agree that Pogba has the same qualities as Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. But it must also be admitted that he is a player who has extraordinary talent, but since winning the World Cup he has started to change his attitude. He demanded a huge salary and in the end he left for free and injuries can't lie because in the last two years his performances have been very bad. Maybe this is Pogmentary's karma so that Pogba's career is starting to decline drastically.
What I remember when Pogba was still in United's uniform was when he was injured and asked to do his own recovery outside the club but instead he went for a walk with his wife and then someone took a photo of him and sent it to the MOU, finally Boom the relationship between the two broke, and when he was already there Juve also happened to be injured, he did the same thing by wanting to recover outside the club. And the peak is now that he is positive for doping, I would imagine his football career will be over.
Messi, Mbappe, Ronaldo and Neymar are attackers, while Pogba is a midfielder. Pogba probably deserves to be compared to De Bruyne, Ilkay Gundogan, Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Christian Eriksen and most other midfielders. In my opinion, that makes more sense than comparing Pogba's quality with a series of top strikers.
Currently, Pogba's career looks like it will soon fade after he was accused of using doping. The results are positive and of course this will have a big impact on his future at Juventus. I'm not sure if Pogba can still play at a high level due to his recurring injuries, but Juventus will probably drop him as soon as possible considering Pogba can't contribute much.
I don't even really like Pogba's style of play because he is too rough in his character on the pitch. Pogba experienced quite a bad decline after the storm of injuries he experienced so he has not been able to make many major contributions to Juventus after he returned to Juventus in last season. Indeed, why compare Pogba with other midfielders because each midfielder has a different character and also has a different career. Like Kevin De Bruyne, he is the best midfielder at the moment because he was able to make a big contribution to Manchester City last season by successfully bringing Manchester City to the Treble Winner. This is different from Pogba, where last season he almost didn't play for Juventus because of a long-standing injury, so these two midfielders had different eras last season. Even now Pogba is experiencing big problems because he tested positive for doping, of course this will result in him getting quite a heavy punishment for his actions using illegal drugs.

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September 13, 2023, 09:59:32 PM
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As you said, they both have what it takes to win that game, which I think makes it a very interesting game for sure. I don't think it would turn into a one sided match where one of them takes a lead of two goals or more. I would rather expect a close back and forth between them and both have some great defensive power. AC Milan has quite a high speed attack now and Inter Milan has been very effective with their chances in the last few months. I think almost all outcomes are equally like and it is not really a perfect home game for the home team either given that it is the derby between the two teams.


The statistics of their last 3 meetings Inter have the upper hand as all three have been won by Inter but in this case the biggest score is 2-0 so I agree with what you say where this match will not have a big enough goal difference especially if you see the performance of both teams at the beginning of this season.
Two goals at the most but I'm not sure about that because it could be a narrow win for either club and it could even be a draw.
The odds are quite attractive but looking at the h2h advantage and Inter playing

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September 13, 2023, 10:18:10 PM
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If Milan can beat Inter then it will be interesting, correct. This match is very difficult to predict, both team have potential to win and also it is possible that match will end in a draw result. For betting on this match, maybe I'll skip Sir. But if there is another better option, maybe I will consider it first. To be honest, I personally not too brave bet on any team in that match, considering at the moment both team also in a good performance.
We shouldn't underestimate both sides, they have what it takes to defeat each other. Inter Milan are home and will host AC Milan this weekend. A tough game to predict the winning team, but I'm just hoping doe solid results from the best team. I'm supporting Inter Milan, giving our my credits to them because they've been really competitive this season and also favorites in the race to win the Scudetto. I'm not going to be surprised if Inter Milan comes out victorious in the Milan Derby match because they have the upper hand in previous games.
Inter Milan and their City rivals AC Milan has been the best two Italian clubs since the start of the season and that's why it very difficult to predict who will win their weekend's encounter in the Italian Serie A. They're currently on the same number of league points and would be battling for will surpass the other when they lurk horns this weekend.
It'll  be a strong and entertaining game for neutrals but certainly a nervous game for fans of the two clubs. Judging by the attacking prowess of both teams they likely to score each other and also record more than two goals in that game.

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September 13, 2023, 10:24:14 PM
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I am not 100% sure if Poga actually used doping the way we know because he was already injury. I believe that we are going to end up with more like "some medicine that helps him recover faster" type of thing probably which may not be allowed. After all, streoid were invented to help with injury as well back in the day, which of course turned into some doping after a while but its still helpful for regular people like you and me to get back into health.

I believe that Pogba didn't gained an advantage in his play or something like that with this, I think he just wanted to get better and heal, and used what he has to use to do that. I guess he still did something wrong though and I believe he might be sold after this.

Nobody is sure about him yet, we just know this was confined by the Anti-Doping Agency in Italy which means he can't play for his team until they clear everything. Pogba was injured most of the time and now there is the possibility for him to make another trouble for Juventus. I think the best Juventus can do is to sell this palyer as fast as they can. Pogba can be suspended for a long time if they confirm it completely and this definitely harms his team.
  

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September 13, 2023, 11:29:56 PM
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This week I will see how strong AC Milan is when they face Inter Milan. AC Milan has a bad history in several matches against Inter Milan where they were beaten by a big score in the Italian Super Cup where Inter Milan was able to score 3 goals in that match.

Even in H2 where AC Milan was only able to win 1 match against Inter Milan, while Inter Milan's record was that they were able to dominate the victory because they won 4 times when facing AC Milan.

This season, these two rivals are at the top with the same points collected. This means that if either team loses this match then they will be 3 points away and we will have a great week to see who the real leaders are.
Indeed, during last season Milan never won against Inter, whether in Serie A or other competitions. However, at that time, Inter was stronger than Milan, so Inzaghi's troops managed to finish in 2nd place. But now the season has changed and looking at the overall results of these two teams, it can be said that they are quite evenly matched and it is very difficult to predict who will win. Moreover, each team has the motivation to get the full 3 points to maintain their distance in the standings. Even though this is a home match for Inter and I don't mean to underestimate them, this time I think Milan will win. In terms of score predictions, it is possible that not many goals will be scored and it looks like Milan will win with a narrow score of 1-2.
Yes, the strength of these two teams is relatively balanced this season because AC Milan was able to increase their strength with the signings they made in the transfer window. On the other hand, Pulisic and Giroud are in their best form so they are quite dangerous on AC Milan's front line. So in terms of Inter Milan's strength, they are still quite strong this season, even though they lost Lukaku, but this doesn't have a big impact on their game because their goal machine is Martinez.

I admit that AC Milan will end their bad record in the meeting with Inter Milan. Without onana in Inter Milan's goalkeeper this season, can AC Milan beat them. I think AC Milan has a strong enough spirit to achieve maximum results in this match.

However, Inter Milan is stronger in terms of their defense because in the 3 matches they have played they have never conceded and Yann Sommer is really the right replacement after Onana went to Manchester United. Can Yann Sommer keep a clean sheet in this week's match when Inter Milan faces AC Milan. That was a big challenge for him.

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September 14, 2023, 01:39:32 AM
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Yes, the strength of these two teams is relatively balanced this season because AC Milan was able to increase their strength with the signings they made in the transfer window. On the other hand, Pulisic and Giroud are in their best form so they are quite dangerous on AC Milan's front line. So in terms of Inter Milan's strength, they are still quite strong this season, even though they lost Lukaku, but this doesn't have a big impact on their game because their goal machine is Martinez.

I admit that AC Milan will end their bad record in the meeting with Inter Milan. Without onana in Inter Milan's goalkeeper this season, can AC Milan beat them. I think AC Milan has a strong enough spirit to achieve maximum results in this match.

However, Inter Milan is stronger in terms of their defense because in the 3 matches they have played they have never conceded and Yann Sommer is really the right replacement after Onana went to Manchester United. Can Yann Sommer keep a clean sheet in this week's match when Inter Milan faces AC Milan. That was a big challenge for him.
The outcome of this match would determine who's more stronger and has a better squad this season, both teams have strengthen their squad with quality players so it's going to be fair enough, In the previous times Inter Milan has been very dominant but this season is going to be a tough one for them because they're facing a very tough Acmilan side as strong as they're what impresses me about this teams is that they can both boost of good attackers making the match a more interesting one.
 Wait you fail to understand is that despite the fact that they sold Onana this summer it's not affected their performance and they got a good replacement for him, even though he's not very young but he's got the experience and he's a good stopper and would be a very big advantage of Inter Milan wining the match however it's not going to come easy and Sommer's cleansheet record could come to an end due to Acmilan quality attackers.

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September 14, 2023, 04:21:29 AM
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We shouldn't underestimate both sides, they have what it takes to defeat each other. Inter Milan are home and will host AC Milan this weekend. A tough game to predict the winning team, but I'm just hoping doe solid results from the best team. I'm supporting Inter Milan, giving our my credits to them because they've been really competitive this season and also favorites in the race to win the Scudetto. I'm not going to be surprised if Inter Milan comes out victorious in the Milan Derby match because they have the upper hand in previous games.
Inter Milan is slightly more favored if you look at their three previous meetings and apart from that the match will also be held at the San Siro headquarters. So far, AC Milan has also developed a lot and is one of the teams that has received positive results from several previous matches in Serie A. The chances of winning will be quite difficult for us to predict because both teams are in good form. If you want to bet then considering a draw is also good to avoid losing the bet because it may be difficult to make predictions.

The Milan derby always brings big surprises and is a very competitive match that will take place. But I am more confident that Inter Milan will emerge as winners with a narrow score because they are superior in many ways. If this scenario doesn't work out then the most likely outcome is a draw, so if you still feel unsure about the first option then the second option is still worth considering betting on.

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September 14, 2023, 04:25:49 AM
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Still not clear the Pogba situation.

The rumor is about a medical drug taken in the USA from an American doctor.

That drug is legal in NA but illegal in Europe.
I think whatever Pogba has done violates the law in Europe and before consuming doping he must have known the risks he would face later. Obviously this adds to the problems in the Juventus dressing room which almost every season has problems and now they have to face another case due to what Pogba has done. After struggling with injuries plus the problem of doping, this player was no longer able to survive in the sport that had made his name. I hope Pogba will immediately stop playing football if proven guilty and not add to the club's problems.

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September 14, 2023, 04:49:43 AM
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Still not clear the Pogba situation.

The rumor is about a medical drug taken in the USA from an American doctor.

That drug is legal in NA but illegal in Europe.
I think whatever Pogba has done violates the law in Europe and before consuming doping he must have known the risks he would face later. Obviously this adds to the problems in the Juventus dressing room which almost every season has problems and now they have to face another case due to what Pogba has done. After struggling with injuries plus the problem of doping, this player was no longer able to survive in the sport that had made his name. I hope Pogba will immediately stop playing football if proven guilty and not add to the club's problems.

If this news that is spreading all over the world about Juventus Player taking drugs before participating in any competition is true, I think it will really make the team to face a lot of things in this season because it will be difficult for them to escape such case in the court of law. I don't think Paul Pogba will regret if he find guilty in this case, because he have made a huge amount of money from his football career that will sustain him through out his life, and it will be difficult for other teams to accommodate him with this abit of drugs. I believe, Juventus can perform well without Paul Pogba in this season because they have took a good step early this season that will make them to go far in this season.

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