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October 14, 2020, 08:08:21 AM
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But numbers are irrelevant if we don't know the number of tested cases, here in Italy players are tested every 4 days and we do around 100k tests/day over the population and I don't know the numbers of other Nations.

this is a point that i have seen being discussed a lot, for example in my country only do less than 5000 tests per day for the whole population, which is a very small number of tests, but 3 weeks ago when they said that 3 teams from my country are going to play games, when they went to test the players, they found that every 1 of the teams had 3 infected players. and when it was time for them to test for players from my country’s selection, 2 players were infected. I really think that the Serie A and other leagues should take a 2 week break to be able to control the situation, and should do this as a routine. But with these uefa nations league games the situation will only get more out of control

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October 14, 2020, 10:42:52 AM
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Quarrantine on players and a league break can help.

May this is a decision at very final point. As long as the spread of Covid-19 is not too wide, I think self-isolation.quarantine will still be implemented by the Italian government and football organizations. Of course the FIGC may also considering the fate of the club if it has to be stopped again. Because the football industry also absorbs a lot of workers. beside, paused the league will add the club's financial problems, crisis may happens to clubs because they are recently finished transfer window.

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October 14, 2020, 01:41:08 PM
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this is a point that i have seen being discussed a lot, for example in my country only do less than 5000 tests per day for the whole population, which is a very small number of tests, but 3 weeks ago when they said that 3 teams from my country are going to play games, when they went to test the players, they found that every 1 of the teams had 3 infected players. and when it was time for them to test for players from my country’s selection, 2 players were infected. I really think that the Serie A and other leagues should take a 2 week break to be able to control the situation, and should do this as a routine. But with these uefa nations league games the situation will only get more out of control

The important thing about the test on the population is the % of positive ratio.
Here in Italy in summer, we got around 1% with around 80 k tests day, now we are going for 5% with 120k tests/day.

The number of tests has increased over the months but the important thing is the ratio to see if the virus is spreading more or less.



Anyway today we probably get the result for Juve-Napoli

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October 14, 2020, 03:34:05 PM
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The important thing about the test on the population is the % of positive ratio.
Here in Italy in summer, we got around 1% with around 80 k tests day, now we are going for 5% with 120k tests/day.

The number of tests has increased over the months but the important thing is the ratio to see if the virus is spreading more or less.
It is correct despite of false positive or false negative from tests. How about the current infected rate in Italian communities (from survey nationwide or in a local region)?

From the figures you gave, it is a signal of second wave. How about the age distribution of 5% infected cases?

It will be a tough decision for Juventus and Napoli. If Napoli gets bad result what will happen if the league will be postponed weeks later because of almost same reason? Napoli will return and fight for it.
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October 14, 2020, 03:58:24 PM
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It will be a tough decision for Juventus and Napoli. If Napoli gets bad result what will happen if the league will be postponed weeks later because of almost same reason? Napoli will return and fight for it.

Now is official Juventus won 3-0.
If they stop the leagues they will change the protocol and Napoli can't appeal anyway since they violated it.

It should be not retroactive..

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October 14, 2020, 05:55:35 PM
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Hopefully Ronaldo will recover very soon. But he will noy be able to play for Juventus in the next 4 matches. Although Juventus is a stable team but their forward is weak without CR7.  Dybala is a talented player but he cannot be trusted. Crotone's match with Juventus on 18 October. Juventus might even win the match without CR7. But it will be difficult for them to win without Ronaldo against Dynamo Kyiv, Hellas Verona and the giant club Barcelona.
I think Ronaldo absent will definitely cause a great drop down on the club winning, dybala might not perform as expected and if he does, its always been a playing pair with Ronaldo, I really hope the affected ones comes back as quick as possible to their respective clubs for the serie A interesting games.
I will take my prediction line against Crotone on 18th October to be 1 nil
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October 14, 2020, 06:16:16 PM
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Hopefully Ronaldo will recover very soon. But he will noy be able to play for Juventus in the next 4 matches. Although Juventus is a stable team but their forward is weak without CR7.  Dybala is a talented player but he cannot be trusted. Crotone's match with Juventus on 18 October. Juventus might even win the match without CR7. But it will be difficult for them to win without Ronaldo against Dynamo Kyiv, Hellas Verona and the giant club Barcelona.
I don't believe Juventus without Ronaldo will be weak in attack. Before Ronaldo arrived, Juventus were the defending champion in the League and they always showed a solid game in every game played. Dybala is not an isolated player in the team, he is great and has given a lot for Juventus every season before. I think Juventus are still a strong team even without Ronaldo's presence in the next four games.

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October 14, 2020, 07:06:06 PM
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I don't get why the football teams do not do what the NBA has done, hell euroleague in basketball doesn't do what the NBA has done.

What is the point of allowing players and team members to go around in the world where there is pandemic and then allowing all of them to play with each other so close? Who thought that would be fine? These dudes constantly gets checked but honestly results are not instant, it usually takes a few days for your coronavirus to be seen in a test which means if you meet with some people or even go to a party on Friday and have a game on Saturday it will not be seen in any test and you will infect other people as well. Just close down ONE stadium, and close down countless hotels around it and make everyone play there this year, without anyone else getting in or out.

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October 14, 2020, 09:16:30 PM
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I don't get why the football teams do not do what the NBA has done, hell euroleague in basketball doesn't do what the NBA has done.

Today 1 Juventus player has been found positive and 4 of Parma.

They can't.
In Europe, they have a contract as a worker and they can't create a bubble.
They need a new contract or they can complain about it.

They need to change or they will stop again soon.


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October 15, 2020, 07:17:38 AM
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Watching how covid-19 is unfolding in Italy Juventus Napoli 3-0 is probably the first result of a long bad streak. They are talking about selective regional lockdowns and if they happen forget about Serie A. Still, Juve-Napoli was ridiculously handled from all the involved parties.
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October 15, 2020, 07:41:29 AM
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Today 1 Juventus player has been found positive and 4 of Parma.

They can't.
In Europe, they have a contract as a worker and they can't create a bubble.
They need a new contract or they can complain about it.

They need to change or they will stop again soon.



someone talk about re-open stadium ... lol ... this thing makes me laugh a lot, because it's stupid
better to watch something than not to watch anything at all
we can live a year without a stadium
but spending a few months doing nothing is worse for me

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October 15, 2020, 07:56:40 AM
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someone talk about re-open stadium ... lol ... this thing makes me laugh a lot, because it's stupid
better to watch something than not to watch anything at all
we can live a year without a stadium
Always can.

Last year when Serie A and many leagues in the Europe were taken with breaks, people hoped to see them back, finish and find champions. Big leagues were resumed and ended all.

This season, people have a nearly normal leagues (without audience at stadiums only) and people are feeling bad. I don't understand, enjoy leagues when you can on televisions.
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18/10      20.45      Roma-Benevento      SKY   
19/10      20.45      Verona-Parma      SKY

Source: https://www.goal.com/it/notizie/serie-a-giornate-1%C2%AA-4%C2%AA-date-orari-e-dove-vedere-le-partite/qbumlg2gs8e417eoqest3f6tb

Big game, the Milan derby. 2 teams in a good shape who will win? I think a draw is the probably final result, 2-2

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October 16, 2020, 06:26:12 AM
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Again, it remains to be seen if Inter - Milan will be played or not. Things are looking bad in Italy, they are slowly catching up with Europe after a slow rise in trends. Anyway, these are the players currently unavailable for Inter: Stefano Sensi (DSQ), Skriniar, Gagliardini, Nainggolan, Radu and Young with covid19. A.C. Milan has only Leo Duarte and Matteo Gabbia.
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October 16, 2020, 08:31:07 AM
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Next turn finally, I hate national games so much... you don't have idea...

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17/10      15.00      Napoli-Atalanta      SKY   
17/10      18.00      Inter-Milan      SKY   
17/10      18.00      Sampdoria-Lazio      SKY   
17/10      20.45      Crotone-Juventus      DAZN   
18/10      12.30      Bologna-Sassuolo      DAZN   
18/10      15.00      Spezia-Fiorentina      DAZN   
18/10      15.00      Torino-Cagliari      SKY   
18/10      18.00      Udinese-Parma      SKY   
18/10      20.45      Roma-Benevento      SKY   
19/10      20.45      Verona-Parma      SKY

Source: https://www.goal.com/it/notizie/serie-a-giornate-1%C2%AA-4%C2%AA-date-orari-e-dove-vedere-le-partite/qbumlg2gs8e417eoqest3f6tb

Big game, the Milan derby. 2 teams in a good shape who will win? I think a draw is the probably final result, 2-2

Sure, most funny game of week end Smiley
Some websites (with foreign language) show match :-P search on google

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October 16, 2020, 09:53:51 AM
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look that even Napoli-Atalanta in my opinion will be a game full of fun

let's consider Napoli, a team that has grown a lot in recent years and is full of imaginative and generous players
let's also consider Atalanta, a team that did very well last year, sent away from PSG will seek revenge at any cost

for me it is a game where we will see good things

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October 16, 2020, 11:30:15 AM
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Big game, the Milan derby. 2 teams in a good shape who will win? I think a draw is the probably final result, 2-2

Zlatan will be playing in the next so AC Milan will be relieved with their attacking line in better shape. While on other hand Inter Milan have record of conceding goals so AC Milan might have chance if get an early breakthrough with a goal and tighten their defence afterwards.
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October 16, 2020, 01:36:49 PM
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snip..
Big game, the Milan derby. 2 teams in a good shape who will win? I think a draw is the probably final result, 2-2
The Della Madonnina derby will be an exciting match tomorrow.  here I prefer Inter (even though Milan as the host) as the winner in this match.  old records have never been much different, Milan have barely won during the last few derby games.  hopefully tomorrow they (Inter) will not disappoint their fans..

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October 16, 2020, 04:15:06 PM
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Watching how covid-19 is unfolding in Italy Juventus Napoli 3-0 is probably the first result of a long bad streak. They are talking about selective regional lockdowns and if they happen forget about Serie A. Still, Juve-Napoli was ridiculously handled from all the involved parties.

To tell you the truth, those infections are making me feel suspicious about them.
It is now the time that we are heading to winter and people are not going so much out of their homes but still infections are rising in Italy. And again a huge portion of the infections is coming from Serie A. While Ronaldo is tested positive he is "quarantined" himself in his pool...
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Watching how covid-19 is unfolding in Italy Juventus Napoli 3-0 is probably the first result of a long bad streak. They are talking about selective regional lockdowns and if they happen forget about Serie A. Still, Juve-Napoli was ridiculously handled from all the involved parties.

To tell you the truth, those infections are making me feel suspicious about them.
It is now the time that we are heading to winter and people are not going so much out of their homes but still infections are rising in Italy. And again a huge portion of the infections is coming from Serie A. While Ronaldo is tested positive he is "quarantined" himself in his pool...

I don't think they'll shut everything up like the first time. People and specially athletes would get along with the virus. The ones being infected would quarantine themselves while healthy ones will keep playing on closed stadiums. There are not any major loss to sports community from the coronavirus. It has mostly affected the old and unhealthy population. A healthy person dying from the virus is rare. That's why we'll see closed stadium football without a break.

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