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May 16, 2024, 04:18:54 PM
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Allegri is leaving the team and won the Italian Cup before retiring. It was a nice farewell for the club and the coach. Allegri leaving the team is the right decision for Juventus, he cannot control his anger and this has bad consequences for the team's focus. We saw that things did not go well this season.

If he had stayed, he would have managed the team in the same way. He did not stay at ease in the cup, he was kicked out of the match. After the match in 90+5, it did not end again and this time he had a dialogue with the reporters at the press conference.
I've always liked Allegri but it seems like Juventus really needs something new and should try a new coach to see where the club's problems really lie. It has actually been reported that Allegri will be fired no matter the result of the Coppa Italia final. And now Juventus has won the Coppa Italia trophy after beating Atalanta. And yes, this is indeed a beautiful gift for the club from Allegri for a farewell that will be very memorable. because all of us who have followed Juventus for a long time certainly know that Allegri has served the Juventus club for a very long time. Namely from 2014 until now. Even though he missed one season in 2020, after that he returned to train Juventus until this season. And actually Allegri's achievements with Juventus in Serie A are also quite good. Because he has succeeded in bringing Juventus to the title several times in Serie A and in the Coppa Italia. But in the Champions League, Juventus have never won with Allegri. He has only been runner up twice, namely in 2015 and 2017. This will be a farewell that all Juventus fans will probably always remember. And now everyone will be curious about how Juventus will be next season if managed by a new coach.

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May 16, 2024, 04:33:36 PM
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Juventus decided not to continue Allegri as coach next season. The Coppa Italia trophy that he give for Juventus at least provided a good memory for club and fans. Even with a squad that did not play consistently in this season, it could still give Juventus the championship title, this can be a good achievement. Of course, this trophy was not what management and fans hoped for, but what Allegri has experienced this season makes it difficult for him to provide good strategy and play for his team, this trophy still can be a gift for all.
Juventus have taken the right decision to end their partnership this season with Allegri, winning the Coppa Italia certainly cannot cover up all of Allegri failures this season with Juventus, Allegri has told the media if indeed Juventus has found a new coach who will take over the Old Lady next season, but so far we do not know who Allegri is referring to as his successor next season,  But what is clear is that it is time for Juventus to give the opportunity to a new coach to make Juventus able to compete in modern football era today, we know that so far Juventus often use monotonous tactics with Allegri, scoring goals then defending and not daring to control the ball, of course that has become the hallmark of Juventus games so far.

As a big team of course getting out of the Scudetto competition is certainly a shame and even in recent seasons, Juventus are no longer considered title contenders in Serie A, having won the Coppa Italia at least now it can erase a little bit of sadness Juventus fans from a very bad season for them but I think still the fans hope if there is a change of coach next season For be able to make Juventus even more well again.

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May 16, 2024, 04:47:57 PM
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Juventus decided not to continue Allegri as coach next season. The Coppa Italia trophy that he give for Juventus at least provided a good memory for club and fans. Even with a squad that did not play consistently in this season, it could still give Juventus the championship title, this can be a good achievement. Of course, this trophy was not what management and fans hoped for, but what Allegri has experienced this season makes it difficult for him to provide good strategy and play for his team, this trophy still can be a gift for all.

I think Juventus has taken the right decision. I was really expecting this news for a long time now since Juventus performance started declining. I don't really expect a big team with a big name to be in this kind of position. When this season started with the good performance of Juventus, a lot of people were thinking that it might be the case, but seriously, everything changes, and I will believe it is due to a lack of good coach management. That is why when the team was losing, the coach was not able to rebuild it.
 
Winning Coppa Italia is not what everyone is expecting from Juventus; with the big name, Juventus deserves more than this trophy to be celebrated, but still, I congrats the team for winning the title, and again, it is part of Allegri achievement. 

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May 16, 2024, 04:54:44 PM
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Finally, the match between Bologna and Juventus will take place in the 37th match of the season in Serie A. I am really looking forward to this match because I want to measure how bad Juventus really is at the moment, which has received a lot of criticism from everyone, including myself, who is also quite disappointed. to them. But I want to see whether Bologna, who has now succeeded in overtaking Juventus, will be able to make Juventus experience defeat directly. I actually hope Juventus wins this match. Because I would prefer to see Juventus end the season in 3rd place. But if Juventus loses then Juventus must be willing to accept the fact that they are quite weak at the end of this season. So they have to do a lot of work to improve their shortcomings.

Does third place have any meaning to you? I don't understand the essence of this desire.
Bookmakers estimate Bologna's chances of winning as 2.48, that is, Bologna is the favorite but only formally. In fact, all three results are equally likely, but I would bet on Bologna given the high odds and the fact that they are on the rise at the end of the season and Juventus are in decline. By the way, purely theoretically, Juventus has a chance to lose even 4th place, and this is after they were on equal terms with Inter for a long time.

I do not think that Juventus is actually worried about the third position in the table. Because you know, they have other things to worry about right now.
I can see, they do not have a single win in the last five matches. From the last five matches, they have been able to get only five points.
So they did not win a single match, Yes I know, they also did not lose a single match in the last five.
I have to agree, that performance is definitely expected from a team like Juventus.

In the point table, Bologna is on the same points as Juventus. They are just ahead in terms of goal difference. Even though I do not think that the third position is going to mean anything much to Juventus, it is still going to be something that the coach would want.

so I do believe this match has some importance. But not that much.

By the way, the current hot topic is Juventus managed Thiago Motta to agree with them by contract, I'm surprised how they could manage to bring Blogona's Head coach!!
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May 16, 2024, 04:58:15 PM
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We also have to look at the progress and even though it is not significant, Juventus has made much better progress this season, meaning that their performance has improved compared to the previous season, which is very good.
For next season I think Juventus management knows what to do and if a team continues to make positive progress then there is no need to doubt it, they are progressing and it just takes time.
Next season will also not be easy enough for any team if their management is not good in important things, including for Juventus itself. Because for me Juventus' improvement this season is still relatively small compared to last season because I don't just look at Juventus from the ranking they got at the end of the season. But look more at how the Juventus team faces stronger teams like Inter Milan and also teams that are slightly weaker this season, because that's where a team's assessment can be born more accurately.

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May 16, 2024, 05:10:48 PM
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We also have to look at the progress and even though it is not significant, Juventus has made much better progress this season, meaning that their performance has improved compared to the previous season, which is very good.
For next season I think Juventus management knows what to do and if a team continues to make positive progress then there is no need to doubt it, they are progressing and it just takes time.
Next season will also not be easy enough for any team if their management is not good in important things, including for Juventus itself. Because for me Juventus' improvement this season is still relatively small compared to last season because I don't just look at Juventus from the ranking they got at the end of the season. But look more at how the Juventus team faces stronger teams like Inter Milan and also teams that are slightly weaker this season, because that's where a team's assessment can be born more accurately.
If we observe as a whole and compare Juventus' performance this season and last season, perhaps the results were much better last season. Because last season Juventus also stayed in second place for quite a long time until Juventus finally received a 10 point deduction which made Juventus only finish in 7th place. But this season Juventus has actually struggled well at the start of the season because this team struggled with many injured players at the start. season but can handle it well. but after the second half of the season things started to change and Allegri seemed to have lost his strategy to make this team strong again. And now the news that Allegri will be fired has also circulated widely. I imagine Juventus will have a new coach and the club will be like starting over from scratch. Because a new coach always means new adjustments if it happens at the start of the season. And what is feared is that Juventus will actually get worse next season.

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May 16, 2024, 05:19:17 PM
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Juventus decided not to continue Allegri as coach next season. The Coppa Italia trophy that he give for Juventus at least provided a good memory for club and fans. Even with a squad that did not play consistently in this season, it could still give Juventus the championship title, this can be a good achievement. Of course, this trophy was not what management and fans hoped for, but what Allegri has experienced this season makes it difficult for him to provide good strategy and play for his team, this trophy still can be a gift for all.

I think Juventus has taken the right decision. I was really expecting this news for a long time now since Juventus performance started declining. I don't really expect a big team with a big name to be in this kind of position. When this season started with the good performance of Juventus, a lot of people were thinking that it might be the case, but seriously, everything changes, and I will believe it is due to a lack of good coach management. That is why when the team was losing, the coach was not able to rebuild it.
 
Winning Coppa Italia is not what everyone is expecting from Juventus; with the big name, Juventus deserves more than this trophy to be celebrated, but still, I congrats the team for winning the title, and again, it is part of Allegri achievement. 
A good coach is what Juventus deserves as Allegri is old fashioned to cope with the young coaches strategies. A coach that is very flexible to understand how to overcome his opponent game tactics in order to take advantage of the match for a win.

I hope that the new coach will put Juventus back to their best form next season in order for them to be able to compete to win the league next season since this season is a bad one for them. The Coppa Italia should be used as a gift for his exit out of the club.

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Next season will also not be easy enough for any team if their management is not good in important things, including for Juventus itself. Because for me Juventus' improvement this season is still relatively small compared to last season because I don't just look at Juventus from the ranking they got at the end of the season. But look more at how the Juventus team faces stronger teams like Inter Milan and also teams that are slightly weaker this season, because that's where a team's assessment can be born more accurately.

I agree with you. Even though this season's results are better than last season and they also qualified for the Champions League next season, overall I see that Juventus has not experienced a significant improvement in performance. Results are better this season as Juventus only got 5 defeats with 2 games remaining. But they also did not get a significant number of wins. Most of them are draws. This must be an evaluation for management or coaches because next season they will play in the most competitive league in Europe.

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May 16, 2024, 05:31:48 PM
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Juventus decided not to continue Allegri as coach next season. The Coppa Italia trophy that he give for Juventus at least provided a good memory for club and fans. Even with a squad that did not play consistently in this season, it could still give Juventus the championship title, this can be a good achievement. Of course, this trophy was not what management and fans hoped for, but what Allegri has experienced this season makes it difficult for him to provide good strategy and play for his team, this trophy still can be a gift for all.

I think Juventus has taken the right decision. I was really expecting this news for a long time now since Juventus performance started declining. I don't really expect a big team with a big name to be in this kind of position. When this season started with the good performance of Juventus, a lot of people were thinking that it might be the case, but seriously, everything changes, and I will believe it is due to a lack of good coach management. That is why when the team was losing, the coach was not able to rebuild it.
 
Winning Coppa Italia is not what everyone is expecting from Juventus; with the big name, Juventus deserves more than this trophy to be celebrated, but still, I congrats the team for winning the title, and again, it is part of Allegri achievement. 

I hope the news is not a rumor because they can't afford to make more mistakes by my keeping the coach until next season because they may end up being relegated if that happens but if this news is true, this is the best decision they have taken so far. The team made a big mistake when they noticed that the coach couldn't do anything to restore back the good performance of his team when they started from the beginning of the season but I was shocked to see that they kept him up till now that the team has suffered a lot of defeats which has affected their position in the league even though they managed to defeat Atalanta in the Coppa Italia yesterday.

The fans expected Juventus to have achieved more than the cup trophy they have won so far following what happened to them last season and the good way they started this season but it's unfortunate they couldn't maintain their good form till the end of the season and right now they have to struggle to qualify to the champions league competition next season and to achieve that, they have to win their remaining matches in the league else they will be overtaken once again by Atalanta and they will move down to 5th in the table.


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A good coach is what Juventus deserves as Allegri is old fashioned to cope with the young coaches strategies. A coach that is very flexible to understand how to overcome his opponent game tactics in order to take advantage of the match for a win.

I hope that the new coach will put Juventus back to their best form next season in order for them to be able to compete to win the league next season since this season is a bad one for them. The Coppa Italia should be used as a gift for his exit out of the club.
It is appropriate for Juventus to make big changes to look at next season. Massimiliano Allegri has indeed contributed to the Old Lady but it seems that the time is enough and immediately replaced with a new coach. The Copa Italian title must be a beautiful farewell gift for Allegri with Juve. Next season the target to re -win the scudetto must be echoed seriously and I am sure that the management of La Vecchia Signora has thought about it, meaning that not only the figure of the coach must be a serious concern but some players must also be updated. Next season I want Juventus to be able to look competitive again and make competition in Serie-A more exciting.

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Next season will also not be easy enough for any team if their management is not good in important things, including for Juventus itself. Because for me Juventus' improvement this season is still relatively small compared to last season because I don't just look at Juventus from the ranking they got at the end of the season. But look more at how the Juventus team faces stronger teams like Inter Milan and also teams that are slightly weaker this season, because that's where a team's assessment can be born more accurately.

I agree with you. Even though this season's results are better than last season and they also qualified for the Champions League next season, overall I see that Juventus has not experienced a significant improvement in performance. Results are better this season as Juventus only got 5 defeats with 2 games remaining. But they also did not get a significant number of wins. Most of them are draws. This must be an evaluation for management or coaches because next season they will play in the most competitive league in Europe.

Basically last season Juventus were better than this season, the problem is because last season Juventus got a points deduction penalty. Because anyway, if last season Juventus did not get a point deduction or did not get a penalty, basically last season Juventus managed to finish in better position. But unfortunately, the penalty received by Juventus last season made Juventus not even allowed to play in the Europa League too. Therefore,the reason I say it is feasible for Juventus to fire Allegri is because Allegri has failed this season. Although basically Juventus still have a good squad and also only focus or play in the domestic league this season but anyway, the fact is Juventus failed to compete with Inter and Milan at the top of the table.

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May 16, 2024, 06:12:59 PM
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We also have to look at the progress and even though it is not significant, Juventus has made much better progress this season, meaning that their performance has improved compared to the previous season, which is very good.
For next season I think Juventus management knows what to do and if a team continues to make positive progress then there is no need to doubt it, they are progressing and it just takes time.
Next season will also not be easy enough for any team if their management is not good in important things, including for Juventus itself. Because for me Juventus' improvement this season is still relatively small compared to last season because I don't just look at Juventus from the ranking they got at the end of the season. But look more at how the Juventus team faces stronger teams like Inter Milan and also teams that are slightly weaker this season, because that's where a team's assessment can be born more accurately.

That's just the fact about the whole thing because sometimes we feel that when a club manages to ranked up to some certain level we feel that they are very strong without reasoning on this perspective because that's actually what I realized about Juventus performance on this season, just like you mentioned Juventus has truly gone far on this season but there is a huge decline on there performance this season because from the matches they have actually played against other bigger teams you will no that they are not really much in a good shape this season but they are just lucky to have gone far but however next season is another season they should look out for because there would be more challenges than this season.

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May 16, 2024, 06:28:10 PM
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Basically last season Juventus were better than this season, the problem is because last season Juventus got a points deduction penalty. Because anyway, if last season Juventus did not get a point deduction or did not get a penalty, basically last season Juventus managed to finish in better position. But unfortunately, the penalty received by Juventus last season made Juventus not even allowed to play in the Europa League too. Therefore,the reason I say it is feasible for Juventus to fire Allegri is because Allegri has failed this season. Although basically Juventus still have a good squad and also only focus or play in the domestic league this season but anyway, the fact is Juventus failed to compete with Inter and Milan at the top of the table.
Juventus had inconsistency performance since received 10 points deduction last season and failed reach for participating in Champion League and any European competition. But in this season has good performance although failed reach 2nd place but get participating back in Champion League and win Copa Italia last night after defeating Atalanta in the final match. But probably in domestic league Juventus loss many points from unpredictable team and seems the management reason why reach agreement mutual contract with Allegri will leave his position at the end this season.
Juventus has opportunity with finish on 3rd standings in this season if can win two matches left, however Juventus reached target for getting one place in Champion League next season indeed drop to 5th position standings.

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Honestly I think it was a boring final.  Sad  Because both teams were so clumsy when it comes to finding the target. 0 on target for Atalanta and 2 for Juventus. When we saw that early goal by Vlahovic I thought we would watch many goals. Juventus did the best thing they could, they mainly focused on securing the current score.

Congratulations to Juventus on winning a trophy in such a tough season! The Serie A has been going on like a nightmare for them. After a point they started to lose so many points. I hope to see better performances next season but first they need to strengthen the squad with new transfers.
There are still a few games left, while Juventus keeps getting draws back to back to back, Atalanta seems to be getting good results, and I think there is still a possibility, difference is only 4 points, and in 2 games if Juventus gets one tie and a loss, that would be 5 points, so Atalanta winning three games they have left, would mean 9 points and they would be ahead, even if Juventus gets two draws again that would be a win, or a win and a loss basically, so Atalanta still has a huge chance, because with that game at hand being a win, the difference would have been one points and they could finish the season in top four.

Juventus will need to find a way to get those wins, or they are going to be badly hurt by going to europa instead.

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May 16, 2024, 06:47:54 PM
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For relegation zone i think the match between Udinese vs Empoli could be very interesting because although from the position on League Table Udinese is much better than Empoli but the difference point between these teams is not too far and i think whoever the winner of this match probably can avoiding relegation zone especially for Empoli because if they can able to overcomes Udinese then their chances to improved their position on League Table will be very wide open and probably they will be survive at Serie A but Udinese also won't let it happend because they also have same target with Empoli

Udinese actually has good records from Empoli because in the last 4 meeting Udinese still unbeated from Empoli even from those meetings Udinese can gets 2 wins and on season 2022 at home Udinese can able to win with big scores 4-1 from Empoli and actually Udinese recent performance a bit better compared to Empoli because they can collect 5 points from 3 latest matches and still unbeated but this season Udinese home matches records is very poor because until week 36 Udinese only able to get 1 win from home matches and i think this match will be so tight although as a host Udinese is the favourite but i don't think Empoli will be easily to beat

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May 16, 2024, 06:51:41 PM
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Basically last season Juventus were better than this season, the problem is because last season Juventus got a points deduction penalty. Because anyway, if last season Juventus did not get a point deduction or did not get a penalty, basically last season Juventus managed to finish in better position. But unfortunately, the penalty received by Juventus last season made Juventus not even allowed to play in the Europa League too. Therefore,the reason I say it is feasible for Juventus to fire Allegri is because Allegri has failed this season. Although basically Juventus still have a good squad and also only focus or play in the domestic league this season but anyway, the fact is Juventus failed to compete with Inter and Milan at the top of the table.
Bianconeri are out or shape but they're still adapting to fit in. Massimiliano Allegri is incharge and there's alot more he can actually achieved with the club. Though I've come acrossed rumours connecting the club in search of a replacement for Massimiliano Allegri because they believe he's impotent for the managerial job. I would rather selects Juventus form last season compared to this current one. They were amazing in matches and played important matches which they scaled through with winning points.

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May 16, 2024, 07:01:54 PM
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I agree with you. Even though this season's results are better than last season and they also qualified for the Champions League next season, overall I see that Juventus has not experienced a significant improvement in performance. Results are better this season as Juventus only got 5 defeats with 2 games remaining. But they also did not get a significant number of wins. Most of them are draws. This must be an evaluation for management or coaches because next season they will play in the most competitive league in Europe.
Actually, if we compare Juventus performance in the last two seasons, of course last season was a better season for them, for you to know if it's towards the end of the last season at that time ,Juventus had to get a 10 point deduction so that from the second rank they dropped to 7th place, besides that Juventus was also banned from playing in the Conference League this season even though they finished in the Conference League zone last season and that's why this season we don't see Juventus playing in European competitions, so indeed the target pursued by Allegri is only to finish in the Champions League this season and it should be recognized if Allegri manages to do so.

As fans, of course, they want the best from their club so that failure and also continuing to get out of the Scudetto competition of course had makes Juventus fans are now getting fed up with Allegri and forcing the management to make major changes in the Juventus squad next season including a change of coach, reportedly now Juventus and Allegri have agreed to end the cooperation,  So I think the Coppa Italia trophy won by Allegri is a sweet farewell gift for Juventus fans this season, most likely if Thiago Motta who managed to bring Bologna to the Champions League next season will be Allegri's successor for next season and he will be contracted for 3 seasons.


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May 16, 2024, 07:30:12 PM
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That's just the fact about the whole thing because sometimes we feel that when a club manages to ranked up to some certain level we feel that they are very strong without reasoning on this perspective because that's actually what I realized about Juventus performance on this season, just like you mentioned Juventus has truly gone far on this season but there is a huge decline on there performance this season because from the matches they have actually played against other bigger teams you will no that they are not really much in a good shape this season but they are just lucky to have gone far but however next season is another season they should look out for because there would be more challenges than this season.

Juventus have not performed well enough this season because how comes they are still battling with the third position of the table standing with Bologna both clubs having 67 points with equal amount of games played. When in the same vain, we've witnessed teams like Inter Milan and AC Milan leading with wide margin at the first and second positions of the table standing. Inter has a total point of 92 and AC Milan having 74 points, leaving the latter with over 18 solid point differences. But it's more surprising or annoying, as the case may be, when you compare AC Milan to Bologna and Juventus, both at 67 points, you will realize that the point difference between Milan and both clubs is 7 points. When I tried to determine the difference in points between the first and third  position,I discovered a whooping difference of 25 points which is monumental in this season.

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May 16, 2024, 08:09:22 PM
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This season was not normal,Inter dominated it completely leaving no room for any other team to try and get back to them,they have already 92 points which is a great amount of points scored equaling to near 30 victories this season and a couple of draws for that total amount.The fact that their closest opponent is 18 points behind,meaning if there were another 6 weeks and Inter lost them all and Milan won them all,it would be on the same points,this shows how disbalanced the Serie A was this season,we are not used a lot of times to such differences from the top team with the other teams,it showed that the other teams clearly need to invest money into their teams otherwise Inter will keep winning again and again.

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May 16, 2024, 08:33:03 PM
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We also have to look at the progress and even though it is not significant, Juventus has made much better progress this season, meaning that their performance has improved compared to the previous season, which is very good.
For next season I think Juventus management knows what to do and if a team continues to make positive progress then there is no need to doubt it, they are progressing and it just takes time.
Next season will also not be easy enough for any team if their management is not good in important things, including for Juventus itself. Because for me Juventus' improvement this season is still relatively small compared to last season because I don't just look at Juventus from the ranking they got at the end of the season. But look more at how the Juventus team faces stronger teams like Inter Milan and also teams that are slightly weaker this season, because that's where a team's assessment can be born more accurately.
The problem of performance and sharpness from strikers has always been a problem that can never be solved for Juventus in this season which makes it difficult for them to create momentum so that they seem to be very standard in terms of performance.

Although mid-season they are still quite good but indeed in this case we can see that their performance is quite stagnant and indeed they win also not too big in terms of aggregate which makes the situation a little complicated and it really becomes disastrous for Juventus at the end of the season.

We know that from the beginning they were not good enough in terms of finishing, Dusan although at Fiorentina he was very dexterous and was able to take advantage of the slightest opportunity but as long as he was at Juventus it seemed that slowly Dusan's instinct in scoring goals was also disturbed which made their attack line not run well.
Allegri's schemes are also quite monotonous although perhaps the reason is that there are not many players he can bring in which makes the situation not really go according to Allegri's plans this season.

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