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May 20, 2024, 03:23:03 PM
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Now I know this is going to sound terrible and will probably not happen. However, about the manager position for Juventus, maybe Mourinho?

It is clear that he did alright with Roma, not great but alright, and while everyone assumed he was bad because De Rossi started his tenure with some wins, we have seen where the team established after that, and Mourinho nearly won europa league as well, and won conference league too, so he was great at Roma, and Juventus has a better squad, he could totally get them to be better. I am not saying he would be perfect, but a manager like him, who spent so many years at Italy before, would be such a great fit for them, I think they should consider that possibility, he would be quite good.

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May 20, 2024, 03:26:30 PM
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It is over for Roma on their Champions League title chase... Sad  They managed to beat Genoa by 1-0 even with 10 players but it was still not enough to keep their hopes for the last week of the season. Because Atalanta also won against Lecce. The point gap is three points maybe but head-to-head games are taken into account first. Atalanta are ahead on that too after beating Roma by 2-1 recently.

Even though there are 5 teams qualifying for the Champions League, Roma have failed on this task once again. But I hope to see them coming back stronger. Let's see whether the board will keep De Rossi for next season too.
It felt like a huge waste for Roma because they were also late in achieving this victory. They shouldn't waste the points they have so they can appear in the Champions League, but as we know, in the last 5 matches they have only won 2 times. If only they managed to sweep these 5 matches clean with a win, of course the result would definitely be that one place would be theirs.

Now all the teams in Serie A still have one to two matches left and for Roma one match remaining will not be enough for them to overtake Atalanta. I think they have to be willing to fight again in the European league and that is at least still better than not playing in other competitions next season.

Atalanta still has two matches left, while AS Roma has only one match left and also, Atalanta has a higher number of goals compared to AS Roma. Therefore, even if for example at the end of the season, Atalanta and AS Roma have the same points then still, AS Roma will not be able to overtake Atalanta. But anyway, because Atalanta has two matches remaining then of course Atalanta will still have higher points compared to AS Roma. With this factor, then of course there is no more chance for AS Roma to be able to finish in the Champion League zone and of course, AS Roma only accept a Europa League ticket because AS Roma still failed to finish in the Champion League zone.

99% atalanta will qualify for the UCL. I was saying it after i take a look at the upcoming fixtures of atalanta.

Atalanta vs torino
Atalanta vs fiorentina

Are there strong clubs from these fixtures? they are all below atlanta at this moment. Roma needs a miracelt to rob UCL spot from atalanta. It needs a miracle for roma to make it happen. I strongly believe atalanta can at least secure one point in order to lock UCL spot.

It sounds impossible for torino or fiorentina to steal points from atalanta. Gesperini's club is still very consistent and it's also in a very good mood after it was entering into the final of europa league this season.

It's hard to imagine roma to seize atalanta's UCL spot. It needs a miracle to happen.

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May 20, 2024, 03:37:29 PM
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Bologna and Juventus have the same chances to stay in the Champions League zone... I can't say who is stronger in my opinion, but I'll probably favour Bologna... Although I think it could easily be a draw here, because Juventus often play away draws... It will be interesting to watch this battle... I think both teams will score today...

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May 20, 2024, 03:37:48 PM
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Atalanta played well in their last five matches with a perfect winning streak which is why they are not too worried about the remaining matches at the end of this season and let Roma catch up or overtake them, Atalanta is currently focused on the UEL final this season and they might have a chance to win facing Leverkusen, even though it seems impossible that Atalanta has a chance of winning it, if they succeed, it will clearly make Leverkusen suffer defeat for the first time this season, but besides that, Leverkusen will not let their struggle be lost in this final match.

xabi Alonso wants to achieve his target of winning the UEL title this season, but they have to be able to beat Atalanta who also has enough strength to make it difficult for Leverkusen, I think Leverkusen will win the UEL title this season rather than Atalanta because they are more worthy of winning it because xabi Alonso wants to target treble winners this season, Leverkusen will not underestimate Atalanta and vice versa because this is the final match which will definitely be quite tight competition. whoever wins is the best. I predict Leverkusen.

Atalanta already earned themselves a place in the Champions League Competition already next season and it's been confirmed completely.
Whoever is behind chasing them and making noise that doesn't have nothing to do with them honestly. I just don't like the fact that their coach already saying that and this, about the Bayern Leverkusen squad he should focus on the game one step at a time. The finals will definitely come and go.
As Roma did well even with the red card they sealed three points to find themselves in a safe place at least European Europa League Competition. Maybe De Rossi can do something for them next season the same way Xabi Alonso did for Bayern Leverkusen.

If it's about that finals between Atalanta and Bayern Leverkusen, Atalanta stands no chance against Bayern Leverkusen because when you go see how they did against Juventus.

Atalanta is definitely going to take part in the Champions League next season. of course, the performance from them in the last five matches has been absolutely undeniably good. But I think what we could have expected more from them was to win the Coppa Italia match against Juventus. But if I do not think about that, I would say they have done very decent in this season. they can turn this season to be a really good one for them if they are able to win the Europa League title. Let’s not forget that they are going to play the Europa League final against Leverkusen. I am expecting that match to be a competitive one. I am pretty sure Leverkusen is going to be the favorite going into this match. But it is the final and that’s why in my opinion the team which is going to play the best on that given day is going to be the winner.

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May 20, 2024, 03:55:50 PM
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It is over for Roma on their Champions League title chase... Sad  They managed to beat Genoa by 1-0 even with 10 players but it was still not enough to keep their hopes for the last week of the season. Because Atalanta also won against Lecce. The point gap is three points maybe but head-to-head games are taken into account first. Atalanta are ahead on that too after beating Roma by 2-1 recently.

Even though there are 5 teams qualifying for the Champions League, Roma have failed on this task once again. But I hope to see them coming back stronger. Let's see whether the board will keep De Rossi for next season too.

Yes, this is a very interesting question because by firing Mourinho the management showed that they have ambitions and a desire to have better results than Mourinho gave. But DeRossi at the moment only repeated the 6th place that the club had under Mourinho and was unable to repeat the Europa League final. If Roma wants something more, then they must back it up not only by shuffling head coaches but also by buying players.

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May 20, 2024, 03:59:07 PM
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Atalanta is definitely going to take part in the Champions League next season. of course, the performance from them in the last five matches has been absolutely undeniably good. But I think what we could have expected more from them was to win the Coppa Italia match against Juventus. But if I do not think about that, I would say they have done very decent in this season. they can turn this season to be a really good one for them if they are able to win the Europa League title. Let’s not forget that they are going to play the Europa League final against Leverkusen. I am expecting that match to be a competitive one. I am pretty sure Leverkusen is going to be the favorite going into this match. But it is the final and that’s why in my opinion the team which is going to play the best on that given day is going to be the winner.
Apparently, Serie A will have five teams to play in Champions League next season, this makes Atalanta securing the ticket since two weeks ago. Their performance in the last several games is very good, but it's a shame that they failed to win the Copa Italia after a loss to Juventus in the final game. Atalanta seem to struggle against good teams, they rarely won against top four teams in Serie A, and this brings doubt about their capability to win the Europa League against Leverkusen.

Regardless the results, Atalanta is having a great campaign this season. Europa League final, Copa Italia final and a ticket to Champions league are good achievements for Atalanta's calibre. Knocking Liverpool out of Europa League final has become a famous win that made Atalanta gaining recognition and confidence in the ending phase on this season.  

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May 20, 2024, 04:00:19 PM
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Bologna and Juventus have the same chances to stay in the Champions League zone... I can't say who is stronger in my opinion, but I'll probably favour Bologna... Although I think it could easily be a draw here, because Juventus often play away draws... It will be interesting to watch this battle... I think both teams will score today...
Both teams have now confirmed a place in the Champions League next season, because it is no longer possible for other teams to catch up with their position in the remaining two final matches of this season, so for the match between Juventus vs Bologna, of course this match is no longer very important for both of the team apart from only maintaining their current position in the standings, but this will no longer affect the Champions League tickets that they currently have, Juventus has officially parted ways with Allegri and now Paulo Montero will be Juventus coach for the remainder of the season so I think Maybe there will be slight changes to their game strategy later.

Meanwhile, Bologna is of course also experiencing the same thing as juventus, thiago Motta, who will now also be parting ways with Bologna, will of course slightly disrupt the stability of the team in that match, so I think both teams will probably not play with their best performance in that match, so It is very likely that a draw will be the end of the match, because apart from that, of course the two teams that have secured Champions League tickets for next season will of course not play too aggressively in this match in order to avoid player injuries that might occur later.

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May 20, 2024, 04:00:59 PM
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It is over for Roma on their Champions League title chase... Sad  They managed to beat Genoa by 1-0 even with 10 players but it was still not enough to keep their hopes for the last week of the season. Because Atalanta also won against Lecce. The point gap is three points maybe but head-to-head games are taken into account first. Atalanta are ahead on that too after beating Roma by 2-1 recently.

Even though there are 5 teams qualifying for the Champions League, Roma have failed on this task once again. But I hope to see them coming back stronger. Let's see whether the board will keep De Rossi for next season too.
Yes, this is a very interesting question because by firing Mourinho the management showed that they have ambitions and a desire to have better results than Mourinho gave. But DeRossi at the moment only repeated the 6th place that the club had under Mourinho and was unable to repeat the Europa League final. If Roma wants something more, then they must back it up not only by shuffling head coaches but also by buying players.

I don't think Mourinho is a bad coach at all. He is quite an experienced coach. Even then, Roma management took the tough decision of sacking Mourinho. De Rossi was appointed coach by Roma management after sacking Mourinho. Roma's overall performance has been stable since de Rossi took over. But now the performance of the team is erratic again. The team could not qualify for the finals of the Europa League. At the same time, Roma's performance in Serie A is not good.

Roma management should now realize that if they want to see consistent performances from the team, they definitely need an experienced coach as well as an experienced and strong squad. Without an experienced squad, it is not possible to maintain consistency of performance.

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May 20, 2024, 04:12:27 PM
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It is over for Roma on their Champions League title chase... Sad  They managed to beat Genoa by 1-0 even with 10 players but it was still not enough to keep their hopes for the last week of the season. Because Atalanta also won against Lecce. The point gap is three points maybe but head-to-head games are taken into account first. Atalanta are ahead on that too after beating Roma by 2-1 recently.

Even though there are 5 teams qualifying for the Champions League, Roma have failed on this task once again. But I hope to see them coming back stronger. Let's see whether the board will keep De Rossi for next season too.

Yes, this is a very interesting question because by firing Mourinho the management showed that they have ambitions and a desire to have better results than Mourinho gave. But DeRossi at the moment only repeated the 6th place that the club had under Mourinho and was unable to repeat the Europa League final. If Roma wants something more, then they must back it up not only by shuffling head coaches but also by buying players.

They was six place on the Seria Scudetto Competition with Jose Mourinho?  I don't think so, they was eight place and asides that, they saw themselves playing better good and beautiful football with Daniel De Rossi. Jose Mourinho wanted upgrade for his squad but the management failed to back him up.

Lol, I feel like you're a huge fan of Jose Mourinho but you have failed to see things the way they're supposed to be. Even Xabi Alonso faced issues like this with Bayern Leverkusen but he came back stronger this season.
I'm expecting that he will have same glory as Xabi Alonso if they're allowed to bring in quality players for the new season.

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May 20, 2024, 04:18:57 PM
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Bologna and Juventus have the same chances to stay in the Champions League zone... I can't say who is stronger in my opinion, but I'll probably favour Bologna... Although I think it could easily be a draw here, because Juventus often play away draws... It will be interesting to watch this battle... I think both teams will score today...

Even though juventus often plays draw in an away game, I have more hope on them to win today's game because I feel like juventus is in better form than Bologna. Even though we know anything can happen, my win is fully for juventus. If not for anything, juventus will like to try their possible best to see that they have more points than Bologna, even though they know that both teams will definitely qualify for the Champions League next season.
 
If I am not mistaking, Juventus have been the serie A winners since 2012 up until 2020, with a total of nine good years without allowing any other team to have a win. I am sure many of us know about that record, so they will like that even if they are not opportune to be the winner, they will be able to maintain the 3rd place in the table.

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May 20, 2024, 04:34:03 PM
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Even though juventus often plays draw in an away game, I have more hope on them to win today's game because I feel like juventus is in better form than Bologna. Even though we know anything can happen, my win is fully for juventus. If not for anything, juventus will like to try their possible best to see that they have more points than Bologna, even though they know that both teams will definitely qualify for the Champions League next season.
 
If I am not mistaking, Juventus have been the serie A winners since 2012 up until 2020, with a total of nine good years without allowing any other team to have a win. I am sure many of us know about that record, so they will like that even if they are not opportune to be the winner, they will be able to maintain the 3rd place in the table.

I can't describe anything in this match because Bologna and Juventus didn't have any targets because both teams have succeeded in securing tickets to the Champions League next season this means that whatever the final result of this match, there will be no impact on the standings, in 3rd and 4th place are not much different I wouldn't be surprised if the two teams drew.

For today's match my attention is only on the Salernitana vs Verona match we know that Salernitana no longer has hope, they are certain to be relegated, meanwhile Verona is not in the safe zone so they need a win today, if Verona is beaten today then there is a possibility they will drop into the red zone so there is no other choice Verona will fight it out. I will bet on Verona and over goals and also both teams to score as anticipation.

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May 20, 2024, 04:37:56 PM
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Juventus will compete again for the first time after Allegri was fired from the coaching bench there. And currently Paolo Montero will temporarily take over coaching after Allegri left there. and actually today's match will be quite difficult. Because the opponent you will face is Bologna, who have been quite consistent this season. In fact, currently Bologna is also ranked 3rd after successfully overtaking Juventus last week. And now I wonder if after Allegri is fired this team will get better. Or it will actually get worse. Even though the match at the end of the season is no longer that important. Because both Bologna and Juventus are certain to get tickets to the UCL for the next season. but now we are definitely curious about Juventus' performance without Allegri.
I'm too used to seeing Juventus with Allegri. So maybe I will be a little sad to see Juventus without Allegri.

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May 20, 2024, 04:45:19 PM
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Now all the teams in Serie A still have one to two matches left and for Roma one match remaining will not be enough for them to overtake Atalanta. I think they have to be willing to fight again in the European league and that is at least still better than not playing in other competitions next season.

I agree with you. AS Roma had good results when De Rossi took over as coach of As Roma. And it was a little too late to improve their ranking. This is a pretty good result, they managed to get tickets to the European league next season. With one match remaining, it is impossible for As Roma to catch Atalanta. Poor results with 2 draws and 1 defeat meant they failed to overtake Atalanta. On the other hand, Atalanta is playing very well this season. They could even have the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League if they become European champions. So I think Atalanta has the right to play in the champions league next season.

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May 20, 2024, 04:47:18 PM
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Juventus will compete again for the first time after Allegri was fired from the coaching bench there. And currently Paolo Montero will temporarily take over coaching after Allegri left there. and actually today's match will be quite difficult. Because the opponent you will face is Bologna, who have been quite consistent this season. In fact, currently Bologna is also ranked 3rd after successfully overtaking Juventus last week. And now I wonder if after Allegri is fired this team will get better. Or it will actually get worse. Even though the match at the end of the season is no longer that important. Because both Bologna and Juventus are certain to get tickets to the UCL for the next season. but now we are definitely curious about Juventus' performance without Allegri.
I'm too used to seeing Juventus with Allegri. So maybe I will be a little sad to see Juventus without Allegri.
Yes, as you said, that match no longer affects the two teams, so even though Allegri has been fired and is now being managed temporarily by Montero, it is possible that there are no demands for Montero. Likewise with Bologna, it's just that it is very possible to still target victory and besides that he wants to prove his capacity. It is also widely reported that Juventus wants to recruit him, perhaps this match will also be a special prestige competition for Motta.

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May 20, 2024, 04:55:10 PM
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Yes, this is a very interesting question because by firing Mourinho the management showed that they have ambitions and a desire to have better results than Mourinho gave. But DeRossi at the moment only repeated the 6th place that the club had under Mourinho and was unable to repeat the Europa League final. If Roma wants something more, then they must back it up not only by shuffling head coaches but also by buying players.

They was six place on the Seria Scudetto Competition with Jose Mourinho?  I don't think so, they was eight place and asides that, they saw themselves playing better good and beautiful football with Daniel De Rossi. Jose Mourinho wanted upgrade for his squad but the management failed to back him up.
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You don't need to think here, just look at the facts: Mourinho achieved 6th place twice in the two full seasons he coached Roma. Against the backdrop of the fact that he additionally won the Conference League and led Roma to the Europa League final, this is a success that will be difficult for all subsequent coaches to repeat.
As for this season, no one knows where Roma would end up with Mourinho. I think you know that every coach has his own views and plans the peak of the team’s shape, focusing on different events in the season, it is quite possible that Mourinho was leading the team to win the Europa League.

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May 20, 2024, 04:56:41 PM
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Bologna and Juventus have the same chances to stay in the Champions League zone... I can't say who is stronger in my opinion, but I'll probably favour Bologna... Although I think it could easily be a draw here, because Juventus often play away draws... It will be interesting to watch this battle... I think both teams will score today...

Even though juventus often plays draw in an away game, I have more hope on them to win today's game because I feel like juventus is in better form than Bologna. Even though we know anything can happen, my win is fully for juventus. If not for anything, juventus will like to try their possible best to see that they have more points than Bologna, even though they know that both teams will definitely qualify for the Champions League next season.
 
If I am not mistaking, Juventus have been the serie A winners since 2012 up until 2020, with a total of nine good years without allowing any other team to have a win. I am sure many of us know about that record, so they will like that even if they are not opportune to be the winner, they will be able to maintain the 3rd place in the table.
Bologna was a little lucky because they acted as hosts, and Juventus came to visit with good confidence, after winning the Coppa Italia trophy by beating Atalanta. However, looking at the situation and ambitions of both teams, it seems that the Bologna versus Juventus match will end in a draw, and betting on a match like this is quite risky. Apart from that, to be honest, Bologna has other advantages that they can take advantage of, which in my opinion is that the change of Juventus manager is an opportunity for Bologna to secure full points.

Even though both will secure tickets to the Champions League, finishing in 3rd place in the standings is certainly better, and in terms of bonuses it is also bigger. Bologna performance this season is very impressive, they managed to be consistent when Juventus experienced a slump. It is reported that Thiago Motta, who currently serves as Bologna manager, is being targeted by Juventus to replace the role left by Allegri. This match will be another opportunity for Thiago Motta, to prove the quality of himself and his team.

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May 20, 2024, 05:02:26 PM
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Of course, Atalanta will try to make the right transfers to build a squad ready for the Champions League next year, but it is not right to say that this year was unsuccessful for them. They reached the final of the European league and maybe they will win the cup. Their chances against Bayer Leverkusen are quite low, but we know there is still a possibility. They might even have a chance to get out of the group in the Champions League with the current squad. However, I am sure that they will try to build a quality squad with players who will definitely be added to this squad. Since they are among the top 5 in the league, they will go to the UCL next year. I think it has been a successful year for Atalanta.
Good, but they stop one step before victory, they reached the final of the Italian Cup, but lost to Juventus, there is still the EL final, but you are right, Bayer is too good now. And in Serie A, Atalanta has a 6-point advantage and I doubt that Roma has any chance of rising higher. So yes, the season is good but it’s too early to stop, if they manage to win the EL final, then it can become not just good, but great.

Regardless of the Italian Cup in which Juventus won the title, it seems there a good news for Juventus. They finally got Allgeri fired from this team after three years of working there. Juventus could have a much better performance during this season in Serie A and they could easily race with Inter Milan for the title but Allegri easily lost the chance and they couldn't even save their place in the second place of the league.
Juventus got Allgeri fired and it seems Paolo Montero is going to be in charge until the end of this season.


There have already been reports that there is immediate interest in Allegri from Saudi teams. In my opinion, Juventus had an unsuccessful season because they were better rested while their rivals were competing in European cups. At one point, they were very close to Inter, but with consecutive defeats, Juventus was out of the race. We will now watch a Juventus aiming for better places with the coach who will be the head of the team next year. We have to observe what Montero or someone else can add to the team.
Allegri going to Saudi? I'm not surprised. After this season's shitshow, he's tired of Juventus. They underperformed, looked promising, and collapsed. Allegri deserves praise for keeping them in the Champions League despite the controversy. Montero or whoever succeeds has a tough job. I hope they inspire and refocus these guys. Juventus must organize. Watch and call them out if they don't act. If Juventus doesn't better next year, let the games begin

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I think Napoli are done with qualifying for the Conference League from now on. What do you think?

Because they played a really crucial game against Fiorentina away three days ago. They had to win to be in this competition. Despite getting ahead first they couldn't keep Fiorentina away from making a comeback. One point was what they only managed to get.  Sad  Now Fiorentina are two points ahead with a missing game to play. Honestly Napoli need to get really lucky from now on. Fiorentina's remaining games are against Cagliari and Atalanta (both away).

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May 20, 2024, 05:07:05 PM
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I agree with you. AS Roma had good results when De Rossi took over as coach of As Roma. And it was a little too late to improve their ranking. This is a pretty good result, they managed to get tickets to the European league next season. With one match remaining, it is impossible for As Roma to catch Atalanta. Poor results with 2 draws and 1 defeat meant they failed to overtake Atalanta. On the other hand, Atalanta is playing very well this season. They could even have the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League if they become European champions. So I think Atalanta has the right to play in the champions league next season.

Bro, as I said before Serie A has 5 tickets to the Champions League for grabs and Atalanta already got one ticket because they finished in 5th place. You need to know that Serie A can actually have 6 tickets if Atalanta win the European League and Atalanta finish in 6th place then one ticket will be given to the team that finishes in 5th place, but in this scenario Atalanta is in 5th place, meaning Atalanta has the opportunity to get 2 tickets to the champions league.

This scenario could happen if Atalanta loses the next 2 matches in Serie A and AS Roma won the last match by scoring 9 goals then AS Roma will take 5th place it's just that this scenario is impossible to happen somehow AS Roma scored 9 goals and match-fixing may be applied, obviously both teams will avoid it.

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May 20, 2024, 05:15:27 PM
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I agree with you. AS Roma had good results when De Rossi took over as coach of As Roma. And it was a little too late to improve their ranking. This is a pretty good result, they managed to get tickets to the European league next season. With one match remaining, it is impossible for As Roma to catch Atalanta. Poor results with 2 draws and 1 defeat meant they failed to overtake Atalanta. On the other hand, Atalanta is playing very well this season. They could even have the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League if they become European champions. So I think Atalanta has the right to play in the champions league next season.

Bro, as I said before Serie A has 5 tickets to the Champions League for grabs and Atalanta already got one ticket because they finished in 5th place. You need to know that Serie A can actually have 6 tickets if Atalanta win the European League and Atalanta finish in 6th place then one ticket will be given to the team that finishes in 5th place, but in this scenario Atalanta is in 5th place, meaning Atalanta has the opportunity to get 2 tickets to the champions league.

This scenario could happen if Atalanta loses the next 2 matches in Serie A and AS Roma won the last match by scoring 9 goals then AS Roma will take 5th place it's just that this scenario is impossible to happen somehow AS Roma scored 9 goals and match-fixing may be applied, obviously both teams will avoid it.
I think you got your analysis wrong on this one because there's no way we're going to have six Italian teams participate in next season's UEFA Champions League competition and I'll explain how. The current UEFA rules allows five Italian teams to represent the league in the UEFA Champions League competition but the truth is that not more than five Italian teams will play in the UEFA Champions League competition no matter where they finish in the league table and who wins the UEFA Europa League competition this season.
If for any reason Roma happens to beat Atalanta to the fifth position of the league table even when we know it's almost impossible and then Atalanta wins the UEFA Europa League final against Bayer Leverkusen, what will happen is that fifth placed team in the league table Roma will not participate again in the UCL but will rather be moved back to the Europa League while Atalanta will join the top four clubs in the league table and play in the UEFA Champions League come next season.

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