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I think Napoli are done with qualifying for the Conference League from now on. What do you think? Because they played a really crucial game against Fiorentina away three days ago. They had to win to be in this competition. Despite getting ahead first they couldn't keep Fiorentina away from making a comeback. One point was what they only managed to get. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Now Fiorentina are two points ahead with a missing game to play. Honestly Napoli need to get really lucky from now on. Fiorentina's remaining games are against Cagliari and Atalanta (both away). Napoli this year has been a total disappointment for their own fans and also for all other lovers of the sport, unfortunately for them their season started badly and is ending even worse. I believe that for them the hopes of qualifying for the next conference league are really minimal, Fiorentina are only 2 points away from being mathematically certain of participating in the next conference league and furthermore they could still aspire to a place in the Europa League if Lazio were to lose their last league game. All this translates into a few words, few chances for Napoli to play in a European competition, De Laurentis must console himself with just the championship and Coppa Italia for next year and do mea culpa
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Great match Bologna vs Juventus... I believed in Bologna, but I had no doubt that they would not lose... Juventus combe back must have surprised everyone... Nobody expected them to equalise in the second half in such a desperate situation... But this match once again showed that in football there are often surprises... Now I wonder what Atalanta will be able to do after the Europa League final...
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Great match Bologna vs Juventus... I believed in Bologna, but I had no doubt that they would not lose... Juventus combe back must have surprised everyone... Nobody expected them to equalise in the second half in such a desperate situation... But this match once again showed that in football there are often surprises... Now I wonder what Atalanta will be able to do after the Europa League final...
Bologna underestimated Juventus in the second half and paid for that. How could they accept 3 goals to be scored in less than 10 minutes! Juventus isn't a threat to any team in Serie A from a long period now.. They are lucky there will be 5 teams from Serie A to go to the new version of UEFA Champions League, otherwise I start to doubt if they could end 4th or not..
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May 20, 2024, 09:11:27 PM |
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Great match Bologna vs Juventus... I believed in Bologna, but I had no doubt that they would not lose... Juventus combe back must have surprised everyone... Nobody expected them to equalise in the second half in such a desperate situation... But this match once again showed that in football there are often surprises... Now I wonder what Atalanta will be able to do after the Europa League final...
Bologna underestimated Juventus in the second half and paid for that. How could they accept 3 goals to be scored in less than 10 minutes! Juventus isn't a threat to any team in Serie A from a long period now.. They are lucky there will be 5 teams from Serie A to go to the new version of UEFA Champions League, otherwise I start to doubt if they could end 4th or not.. A potentially costly mistake for Bologna, but as good as this comeback sounds at first glance, this draw could cost Juventus the Champions League qualification. Take into account that Atalanta now has an unbelievable chance to leave Bologna and Juventus behind. What the heck is going on in Serie A. Looking back like 2 or 3 months, Juventus Turin was safe and nobody doubted they would get the qualification. Now it is all on the fence for them. It would be the biggest nightmare for Juventus if Atalanta wins that game and by the way, Atalanta has two games at home now. It could now end in a catastrophe if Bologna wins the game against Genoa and Atalanta is not giving away any points in those two games. Unbelievable that Juventus would end up in the Europa League after a season without any games on European stages. Worst times for them ever.
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May 20, 2024, 09:33:37 PM |
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Great match Bologna vs Juventus... I believed in Bologna, but I had no doubt that they would not lose... Juventus combe back must have surprised everyone... Nobody expected them to equalise in the second half in such a desperate situation... But this match once again showed that in football there are often surprises... Now I wonder what Atalanta will be able to do after the Europa League final...
Bologna underestimated Juventus in the second half and paid for that. How could they accept 3 goals to be scored in less than 10 minutes! Juventus isn't a threat to any team in Serie A from a long period now.. They are lucky there will be 5 teams from Serie A to go to the new version of UEFA Champions League, otherwise I start to doubt if they could end 4th or not.. I never expected a draw in the match either, I blame Bologna for being too relaxed with just three goals and I commend Juventus for trying to draw the match. This is sign that next season will be a tough season in the Seria A because if Juventus will recover fully and add more players to their squad they will be title contenders and with this effort teams like Bologna and Atalanta were making, they will also give it a try next season to see if they can perform well just as Leverkusen did in the German Bundesliga.
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May 20, 2024, 09:47:59 PM |
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Obviously there's going to be a switch in positions the league table after the last games, and in the match between Bologna vs Juventus is currently losing 0-2 to Bologna, This is surprising because it's just about 11 + minutes into the game, I doubt if Juve would bounce in this game, and if they lost at the end Atlanta will take on the 4th position if they won their game, because Juventus is currently at 4th position with 37 games played so far whereas Atlanta is at the 5th position with 66 points with a total of 36 games played.
Juventus magically equalized the goals and dragged the match to a 3-3 ending. Even though I expected a win from Juventus, I must commend them for being able to come from a 3-0 down to make the match even with Bologna. The strange thing is that as at the 75th minutes the match was still 3-0 before Federico Chiesa scored his 76th followed by Arkadiusz Milik at the 83rd minute before Yenan Kildiz wrapped it up just within a minute interval. What I found interesting is their fighting spirit, perhaps Paulo Montero will be able to instill this in the players if he must evade the same fate that their last coach Massimiliano Allegri met. I look forward to seeing a better Juventus next season because they have really gone down in terms of rating.
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In fact, if you look at the game, Milan is quite dominant, Milan is quite attacking, Milan even has a lot of shots. But what happened was, Milan couldn't be that accurate and their allies could score goals.
From AC Milan game it was clear that they were not ready to win without Giroud from the first minute. AC Milan needs a more productive striker to replace Giroud for next season. In today match, AC Milan had many opportunities to score goals but they failed because Jovic had not succeeded in showing his quality as a goal-hungry striker. It is true, the tactics and strategy for selecting players as starters have quite an influence on the results, these are various considerations that must be considered before determining who will play as a starter and join the bench. because, sometimes we speculate that just a few certain games are enough when competing against smaller clubs, but sometimes it will be quite surprising because there are times when the conditions are quite different and we are not as ready. Sometimes, the influence of one key player in the club is very big and becomes quite lame when he is not in the squad, especially at a club that is not yet stable and consistently more solid. Bologna underestimated Juventus in the second half and paid for that. How could they accept 3 goals to be scored in less than 10 minutes! Juventus isn't a threat to any team in Serie A from a long period now.. They are lucky there will be 5 teams from Serie A to go to the new version of UEFA Champions League, otherwise I start to doubt if they could end 4th or not..
They really thought that their position was very safe, because they were 3 goals ahead. In fact, they were quite confident about this victory. Several players have also been withdrawn and replaced. And this was quite a fatal mistake, because their opposing team was Juventus. Even though Juventus' recent performance has been quite bad, even very disappointing, that doesn't mean they are a club that can be underestimated. Because as long as the whistle has not ended, there are still gaps and opportunities for clubs like Juventus to respond. And at that time, Juventus really had an opportunity for that, and Bologna really took that opportunity well. So, it's quite surprising for Bologna, of course, because from 3 - 0 to 3 - 3.
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Bologna underestimated Juventus in the second half and paid for that. How could they accept 3 goals to be scored in less than 10 minutes! Juventus isn't a threat to any team in Serie A from a long period now.. They are lucky there will be 5 teams from Serie A to go to the new version of UEFA Champions League, otherwise I start to doubt if they could end 4th or not..
Yep. In the second half of the match, it seems Bologna turned to play not as aggressive as in the first half. You're right, they may assume that they already won the match because they were leading with many goals (3 goals). Unfortunately, it makes Juventus to have more opportunities to score goals. Juventus didn't miss the opportunities, they equalize the score and forced Bologna to end the match with a draw result. It was a great come-back done by Juventus players. But it is not enough to overtake the position of Bologna in the 3rd place. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Indeed. There are 5 teams from Serie A to play in UCL for the next season. Inter, Milan, Bologna, Juventus, and Atalanta are safe to finish the season in UCL zone. Since there is 1 match only before the end of the season, there will be no change of the top 5 in Serie A table. AS Roma seems to have no chance to chase Atalanta because Atalanta probably will secure 3 points in the match against Torino. 1 more win is enough to secure Atalanta position in UCL zone. Anyway, it is true that Serie A is lucky to have 5 spots in UCL. The new UCL rule benefits the teams from Serie A and the Bundesliga this season.
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May 20, 2024, 10:35:00 PM |
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You don't need to think here, just look at the facts: Mourinho achieved 6th place twice in the two full seasons he coached Roma. Against the backdrop of the fact that he additionally won the Conference League and led Roma to the Europa League final, this is a success that will be difficult for all subsequent coaches to repeat. As for this season, no one knows where Roma would end up with Mourinho. I think you know that every coach has his own views and plans the peak of the team’s shape, focusing on different events in the season, it is quite possible that Mourinho was leading the team to win the Europa League.
It's true, Mourinho's trail has been very long and full of victories. Maybe the players at Roma don't really respect Mourinho so instead of having to continue this and it becomes an internal problem that can threaten the performance of every player from Roma, there is no other choice. apart from changing the Roma coach to Daniele De Rossi.. Each coach has his own characteristics and different achievements. Hopefully Daniele De Rossi can become a great coach and bring Roma to victory in every match they face.
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I agree with you. AS Roma had good results when De Rossi took over as coach of As Roma. And it was a little too late to improve their ranking. This is a pretty good result, they managed to get tickets to the European league next season. With one match remaining, it is impossible for As Roma to catch Atalanta. Poor results with 2 draws and 1 defeat meant they failed to overtake Atalanta. On the other hand, Atalanta is playing very well this season. They could even have the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League if they become European champions. So I think Atalanta has the right to play in the champions league next season.
Bro, as I said before Serie A has 5 tickets to the Champions League for grabs and Atalanta already got one ticket because they finished in 5th place. You need to know that Serie A can actually have 6 tickets if Atalanta win the European League and Atalanta finish in 6th place then one ticket will be given to the team that finishes in 5th place, but in this scenario Atalanta is in 5th place, meaning Atalanta has the opportunity to get 2 tickets to the champions league. This scenario could happen if Atalanta loses the next 2 matches in Serie A and AS Roma won the last match by scoring 9 goals then AS Roma will take 5th place it's just that this scenario is impossible to happen somehow AS Roma scored 9 goals and match-fixing may be applied, obviously both teams will avoid it. I do not think there is actually any chance for Roma. First of all, they will have to win the match that they have left with a big goal difference. Secondly, Atalanta will have to lose both of the matches that they have left by a big goal difference in both of them. And I think all of those things are definitely not going to happen. Even if Roma is able to win the next match and Atalanta somehow manages to actually lose the two matches that they have left, I still think that Roma is going to be behind because of bad goal difference. I just do not believe that Atalanta will not be able to take even 1 win of the matches that they have left. And both of those matches are against mid-table opponents, Torino and Fiorentina.
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May 20, 2024, 11:47:06 PM |
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Regardless of the Italian Cup in which Juventus won the title, it seems there a good news for Juventus. They finally got Allgeri fired from this team after three years of working there. Juventus could have a much better performance during this season in Serie A and they could easily race with Inter Milan for the title but Allegri easily lost the chance and they couldn't even save their place in the second place of the league. Juventus got Allgeri fired and it seems Paolo Montero is going to be in charge until the end of this season. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F05%2F19%2F11vLv.jpeg&t=665&c=NEtntpu5WOBZfA) Allegri should have been fired from Juventus a long time ago, especially after Agnelli left. And Juventus are waiting for the moment when they are not to blame for Allegri's dismissal. Now that the coveted spot in the UCL League has been obtained, the Copa Italia Trophy has also been obtained to satisfy Juventus fans. And "coincidentally" Allegri also acted up, so there was a reason for Juventus to fire him. Many Juventus fans have disliked him since he returned to Juventus. Now is the time for Juventus to change coaches so that there will be a change in the Juventus Team's playing strategy. because when Juventus was coached by Allegri, their playing style was monotonous, the strategy that Allegri implemented didn't really need attacking type players, only strong defensive type players were enough, that's why sharp stickers couldn't develop at Juventus while being coached by Allegri. I hope the next coach can bring glory starting by reviving Lo Spirito, so that next season Serie A will be even more competitive.
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Bologna made a big mess in the game against Juventus who we all thought would maintain that number 2 spot on the table since Inter Milan won the league base on a large number of points but they (Juve) couldn't keep up with the pressure from the teams who are behind them and now they find themselves in a very tight corner which means if Atalanta get a win against Fiorentina they (Juventus) will be dropping out of the top 4 on the log. Bologna played better last night with a 2 goal lead at half time but in the second half they allowed the old ladies to gain control and ended the game in a draw, it wasn't an impressive display from host and I had it in mind that Juventus can't get a win and if this continues I don't see Juventus performing well next season, but let's see what would happen in their last game of the season.
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I do not think there is actually any chance for Roma. First of all, they will have to win the match that they have left with a big goal difference. Secondly, Atalanta will have to lose both of the matches that they have left by a big goal difference in both of them. And I think all of those things are definitely not going to happen. Even if Roma is able to win the next match and Atalanta somehow manages to actually lose the two matches that they have left, I still think that Roma is going to be behind because of bad goal difference. I just do not believe that Atalanta will not be able to take even 1 win of the matches that they have left. And both of those matches are against mid-table opponents, Torino and Fiorentina.
Their chance for Roma will come from Europa League final match, not from Serie A matches. If Atalanta win against Leverkusen, they will be appointed a spot to Champions League as a Europe League champion. Their spot in Serie A will be passed to Roma even Roma will finish this season at the sixth position. It is more interesting about Serie A clubs if Fiorentina win the Conference League, they will be appointed a spot to Europa League and a club at the ninth position will be able to join Conference League. This means, in summary, if both Atalanta and Fiorentina win Europa League and Conference League, Serie A will have 9 clubs in Europe tournaments next season. How Italy can have nine teams in Europe next season
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May 21, 2024, 05:06:02 AM |
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I am also curious about Juventus plans too. Montero is legend but being caretaker coach might just be temporary. He might be considered for main coach job next season but it's not very likely. Juventus usually chooses coaches with lot of experience so they will probably look for someone like that. I am also excited to see which new players will join and who will leave to make room for new talent. Juventus needs to get stronger to compete for the Scudetto and I am looking forward to seeing what they do this summer.
Paolo Montero was once a Juventus player and he has won many awards with Juventus in his time. He was no doubt a Juventus player, but this season is different, he is no longer a player and he has decided to become a coach, but he doesn't really have much experience coaching a club and Currently he has been appointed by Juventus to be interim coach until the end of the season while looking at developments that will occur at the Juventus club in the future. If he shows good development, maybe he will be contracted by Juventus as club manager and not just temporarily, maybe for one season. I'm also curious what efforts will Paolo Montero make. It's true that Juventus usually prefers to sign coaches who have a lot of experience in big competitions, but I think Juventus could try new things like Leverkusen who chose a coach like Xabi Alonso even though we know this coach didn't have much experience in the managerial field before, but since Xabi Alonso Coaching Leverkusen over time, the club experienced significant improvement and can now become champions in the Bundesliga thanks to Xabi Alonso's intelligence.
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Allegri should have been fired from Juventus a long time ago, especially after Agnelli left. And Juventus are waiting for the moment when they are not to blame for Allegri's dismissal. Now that the coveted spot in the UCL League has been obtained, the Copa Italia Trophy has also been obtained to satisfy Juventus fans. And "coincidentally" Allegri also acted up, so there was a reason for Juventus to fire him. The management of Juventus are experienced and understanding people. It would be inhuman to sack a coach who stayed with the club all through its point-reduction problems. Allegri hasld some good offers from some clubs both in Europe and Saudi Arabia but he decided to take the risk with Juventus. The club had to give him some time to improve the club's performance. Since he couldn't, it is obvious that he doesn't deserve to remain in the club. Many Juventus fans have disliked him since he returned to Juventus. Now is the time for Juventus to change coaches so that there will be a change in the Juventus Team's playing strategy. because when Juventus was coached by Allegri, their playing style was monotonous, the strategy that Allegri implemented didn't really need attacking type players, only strong defensive type players were enough, that's why sharp stickers couldn't develop at Juventus while being coached by Allegri. I hope the next coach can bring glory starting by reviving Lo Spirito, so that next season Serie A will be even more competitive.
Juventus is a club that has a renowned history. It is always competitive in both the local league and the Champions League. So it is normal for the fans to be concerned about the recent poor performance. Allegri couldn't give them what they wanted which was trophies and glory. Some good coaches are in the market currently and I hope they will take their time to search and get a suitable coach for the club.
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May 21, 2024, 05:28:53 AM |
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I agree with you. AS Roma had good results when De Rossi took over as coach of As Roma. And it was a little too late to improve their ranking. This is a pretty good result, they managed to get tickets to the European league next season. With one match remaining, it is impossible for As Roma to catch Atalanta. Poor results with 2 draws and 1 defeat meant they failed to overtake Atalanta. On the other hand, Atalanta is playing very well this season. They could even have the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League if they become European champions. So I think Atalanta has the right to play in the champions league next season.
Bro, as I said before Serie A has 5 tickets to the Champions League for grabs and Atalanta already got one ticket because they finished in 5th place. You need to know that Serie A can actually have 6 tickets if Atalanta win the European League and Atalanta finish in 6th place then one ticket will be given to the team that finishes in 5th place, but in this scenario Atalanta is in 5th place, meaning Atalanta has the opportunity to get 2 tickets to the champions league. This scenario could happen if Atalanta loses the next 2 matches in Serie A and AS Roma won the last match by scoring 9 goals then AS Roma will take 5th place it's just that this scenario is impossible to happen somehow AS Roma scored 9 goals and match-fixing may be applied, obviously both teams will avoid it. I do not think there is actually any chance for Roma. First of all, they will have to win the match that they have left with a big goal difference. Secondly, Atalanta will have to lose both of the matches that they have left by a big goal difference in both of them. And I think all of those things are definitely not going to happen. Even if Roma is able to win the next match and Atalanta somehow manages to actually lose the two matches that they have left, I still think that Roma is going to be behind because of bad goal difference. I just do not believe that Atalanta will not be able to take even 1 win of the matches that they have left. And both of those matches are against mid-table opponents, Torino and Fiorentina. Fiorentina may push a little, but I think they will win against Torino. Atalanta is an important team and it can be said that they had a successful year this year. Their ranking in the league is also considered successful because they play in a competitive league. Being in the top 5 in a league with many strong teams and playing in the UEL finals shows that they can be considered successful.
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May 21, 2024, 05:45:30 AM |
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Yes, Serie A is one of the leagues that has 5 places for teams that will play in the UCL next season and of course this makes Serie A pretty good league, the rapid development means that Serie A can have this good opportunity next season. Atalanta is currently the caretaker for the 5 teams that will have the opportunity to take part in the UCL competition next season and of course they can compete with other strong team in the UCL if they really maintain their position. Victory over Lecce has also provided very good opportunity for Atalanta, moreover in the last match Atalanta was guaranteed to win over Torino and they could comfortably finish as team in 5th place. But there is postponed match which is quite worrying, namely against Fiorentina and this is the only match that can put pressure on Atalanta. As much as possible, Atalanta must maximize the remaining matches in order to secure tickets to the Champions League. Of course, this opportunity is now within his grasp because UEFA has given five slots to teams in Serie A. However, Atalanta seems to have enough to win one more match to avoid being chased by Roma. Apart from that, Atalanta also has the opportunity to qualify directly for the Champions League if they are able to win the Europa League title, but this step is also very difficult because their opponent is Bayer Leverkusen. But I feel quite confident that Atalanta will advance to the Champions League through the fifth slot in the Serie A standings. Yes, that what they should do because opportunities like this are really wanted by all team and they are lucky with what Serie A has got this season, if Atalanta wastes good opportunity like this then it will be very detrimental. Only 3 points behind and what they can do is win the remaining games, if they can't win, at least they have to be able to get draw, I sure Roma will try to get win and catch Atalanta. Even though if they manage to qualify and enter the UCL, they won't last long or it could be said that they might just be eliminated sooner, but at least Atalanta has proven that they are strong enough team and are able to compete in UCL group stage. For the European League itself, I would not expect anything from Atalanta to win the final match, the opponent is Leverkusen and this is team that has not been defeated, it is impossible for Atalanta to win this match.
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May 21, 2024, 05:55:50 AM |
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Bologna made a big mess in the game against Juventus who we all thought would maintain that number 2 spot on the table since Inter Milan won the league base on a large number of points but they (Juve) couldn't keep up with the pressure from the teams who are behind them and now they find themselves in a very tight corner which means if Atalanta get a win against Fiorentina they (Juventus) will be dropping out of the top 4 on the log. Bologna played better last night with a 2 goal lead at half time but in the second half they allowed the old ladies to gain control and ended the game in a draw, it wasn't an impressive display from host and I had it in mind that Juventus can't get a win and if this continues I don't see Juventus performing well next season, but let's see what would happen in their last game of the season.
That's football for you. Never say never until it's over but I'm a bit disappointed in Juventus because they let a team like Bologna get three goals before they could realize their mistakes. Honestly, the hosts played Juventus like they were a group of school boys with their first shot at senior football, they didn't have any structure or confidence. Their defense line was weak, attack was struggling and because of their desperation to make something out of the night, they ended up conceding more fouls than the hosts. Another sad part is that despite bringing the game to a draw, they still couldn't pass Bologna who are on top of them at 2nd place with goal difference. What can I say is their reason for playing so poorly? Is it the coach that lacked tactical formation or the players who couldn't just get their acts right?
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May 21, 2024, 06:28:21 AM |
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That's football for you. Never say never until it's over but I'm a bit disappointed in Juventus because they let a team like Bologna get three goals before they could realize their mistakes. Honestly, the hosts played Juventus like they were a group of school boys with their first shot at senior football, they didn't have any structure or confidence. Their defense line was weak, attack was struggling and because of their desperation to make something out of the night, they ended up conceding more fouls than the hosts. Another sad part is that despite bringing the game to a draw, they still couldn't pass Bologna who are on top of them at 2nd place with goal difference. What can I say is their reason for playing so poorly? Is it the coach that lacked tactical formation or the players who couldn't just get their acts right?
Juventus played a good game especially when the game formation was changed but I observed that Juventus is too comfortable with draw result this days, it's very obvious in the players body language in several matches that they have played draw. I know this is not the best result but it's not too bad either. It's however, sad to see the seriousness and offensive potential of Juventus at this moment when things have been damaged from the beginning of the season. Either they retain their couch or change couch, there is serous work to be done on the defense part of the squad because it was a total embarrassing today just like some other days with their heads completely lost. As it is now, their fourth position is very threatened because Atalanta who is below with just two points have an outstanding game and that would definitely send Juventus back to fith position if Atalanta win their match. It's not just about qualifying for the champions league but it's about how they are not able to maintain their position on the league table and keep depreciating in performance.
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May 21, 2024, 06:33:42 AM |
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Bologna made a big mess in the game against Juventus who we all thought would maintain that number 2 spot on the table since Inter Milan won the league base on a large number of points but they (Juve) couldn't keep up with the pressure from the teams who are behind them and now they find themselves in a very tight corner which means if Atalanta get a win against Fiorentina they (Juventus) will be dropping out of the top 4 on the log. Bologna played better last night with a 2 goal lead at half time but in the second half they allowed the old ladies to gain control and ended the game in a draw, it wasn't an impressive display from host and I had it in mind that Juventus can't get a win and if this continues I don't see Juventus performing well next season, but let's see what would happen in their last game of the season.
Juventus came back in just 14 minutes. It was great to come back from 3-0 down to 3-3. It was an enjoyable match to watch, but considering the possibility of Juventus falling behind Atalanta, I think they should have fired Allegri earlier. A team that once competed for the league title with Inter should not lose so many points in a row. Moreover, they suffered these losses despite having a comfortable league fixture.
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